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KSMountain
ParticipantI’m gonna backup CA Renter a little bit. Not only are airplanes complex, but after all they *contain* human beings inside them (the pilots) with all *their* complexity. Further, there is the complexity of interactions of the pilots with other humans, such as other pilots and air traffic controllers. Further there is the small matter of weather…
One thing that the FAA/NTSB seems to do a little differently, is that when there is an accident, they try to determine root cause and ensure that that kind of accident can’t happen again. Not always possible to do that (e.g. pilot stupidity), but they try.
So remember the case of Dennis Quaid’s kids that were given a huge OD?
According to the article, the *parents* are now going to go on a campaign to prevent this from happening again. The parents? How lame that they should have to do that.
This accidednt should have *already* been made almost impossible to occur due to previous accidents of that type. And I think that is part of CA Renter’s point.
Now is tort reform the best way to “encourage learning”? Not sure.
KSMountain
Participant[quote=sd_matt]
Wilson was correct about the “Lie” The enforcement (SAVE) mechanism was voted out in a committee.
And that little catch is not discussed in the mainstream media,well maybe Fox, I don’t watch tv very much. But everyone else is sayin stuff like “Obama struggles to pass health care…”, “The Dems working hard to reform…” and on and on.[/quote]
Right sd_matt. Isn’t it amazing how you can phrase a sentence that at first blush seems innocuous and neutral but in reality it biases the reader before they’re even halfway through it? There’s a lot of that in the media if you look for it, and then once you know how to look for it gets really disappointing after awhile.
Regarding the “catch”, it’s somewhat of a moot point whether illegals can get the new insurance, cuz they can already go to the e-room for free.
Other than the moral aspects, does the extreme left ever look at the big picture and think about the implications of free medical care on demand combined with open borders? We’d effectively be saying we’ll pay for the entire world’s healthcare if only they can here.
Are we really so wealthy that we afford that? Further the costs go disproportionally to california and californians if I understand corectly.
I’d be interested to hear the opinions of NavyDoc on this…
Is there a way to have both compassion and solvency?
KSMountain
Participant[quote=sd_matt]
Wilson was correct about the “Lie” The enforcement (SAVE) mechanism was voted out in a committee.
And that little catch is not discussed in the mainstream media,well maybe Fox, I don’t watch tv very much. But everyone else is sayin stuff like “Obama struggles to pass health care…”, “The Dems working hard to reform…” and on and on.[/quote]
Right sd_matt. Isn’t it amazing how you can phrase a sentence that at first blush seems innocuous and neutral but in reality it biases the reader before they’re even halfway through it? There’s a lot of that in the media if you look for it, and then once you know how to look for it gets really disappointing after awhile.
Regarding the “catch”, it’s somewhat of a moot point whether illegals can get the new insurance, cuz they can already go to the e-room for free.
Other than the moral aspects, does the extreme left ever look at the big picture and think about the implications of free medical care on demand combined with open borders? We’d effectively be saying we’ll pay for the entire world’s healthcare if only they can here.
Are we really so wealthy that we afford that? Further the costs go disproportionally to california and californians if I understand corectly.
I’d be interested to hear the opinions of NavyDoc on this…
Is there a way to have both compassion and solvency?
KSMountain
Participant[quote=sd_matt]
Wilson was correct about the “Lie” The enforcement (SAVE) mechanism was voted out in a committee.
And that little catch is not discussed in the mainstream media,well maybe Fox, I don’t watch tv very much. But everyone else is sayin stuff like “Obama struggles to pass health care…”, “The Dems working hard to reform…” and on and on.[/quote]
Right sd_matt. Isn’t it amazing how you can phrase a sentence that at first blush seems innocuous and neutral but in reality it biases the reader before they’re even halfway through it? There’s a lot of that in the media if you look for it, and then once you know how to look for it gets really disappointing after awhile.
Regarding the “catch”, it’s somewhat of a moot point whether illegals can get the new insurance, cuz they can already go to the e-room for free.
Other than the moral aspects, does the extreme left ever look at the big picture and think about the implications of free medical care on demand combined with open borders? We’d effectively be saying we’ll pay for the entire world’s healthcare if only they can here.
Are we really so wealthy that we afford that? Further the costs go disproportionally to california and californians if I understand corectly.
I’d be interested to hear the opinions of NavyDoc on this…
Is there a way to have both compassion and solvency?
KSMountain
Participant[quote=sd_matt]
Wilson was correct about the “Lie” The enforcement (SAVE) mechanism was voted out in a committee.
And that little catch is not discussed in the mainstream media,well maybe Fox, I don’t watch tv very much. But everyone else is sayin stuff like “Obama struggles to pass health care…”, “The Dems working hard to reform…” and on and on.[/quote]
Right sd_matt. Isn’t it amazing how you can phrase a sentence that at first blush seems innocuous and neutral but in reality it biases the reader before they’re even halfway through it? There’s a lot of that in the media if you look for it, and then once you know how to look for it gets really disappointing after awhile.
Regarding the “catch”, it’s somewhat of a moot point whether illegals can get the new insurance, cuz they can already go to the e-room for free.
Other than the moral aspects, does the extreme left ever look at the big picture and think about the implications of free medical care on demand combined with open borders? We’d effectively be saying we’ll pay for the entire world’s healthcare if only they can here.
Are we really so wealthy that we afford that? Further the costs go disproportionally to california and californians if I understand corectly.
I’d be interested to hear the opinions of NavyDoc on this…
Is there a way to have both compassion and solvency?
KSMountain
Participant[quote=sd_matt]
Wilson was correct about the “Lie” The enforcement (SAVE) mechanism was voted out in a committee.
And that little catch is not discussed in the mainstream media,well maybe Fox, I don’t watch tv very much. But everyone else is sayin stuff like “Obama struggles to pass health care…”, “The Dems working hard to reform…” and on and on.[/quote]
Right sd_matt. Isn’t it amazing how you can phrase a sentence that at first blush seems innocuous and neutral but in reality it biases the reader before they’re even halfway through it? There’s a lot of that in the media if you look for it, and then once you know how to look for it gets really disappointing after awhile.
Regarding the “catch”, it’s somewhat of a moot point whether illegals can get the new insurance, cuz they can already go to the e-room for free.
Other than the moral aspects, does the extreme left ever look at the big picture and think about the implications of free medical care on demand combined with open borders? We’d effectively be saying we’ll pay for the entire world’s healthcare if only they can here.
Are we really so wealthy that we afford that? Further the costs go disproportionally to california and californians if I understand corectly.
I’d be interested to hear the opinions of NavyDoc on this…
Is there a way to have both compassion and solvency?
KSMountain
Participant[quote=patb]I’d be curious to know how many people wanting to picket BP
were quite happy to have Bush invade Iraq to steal their oil?[/quote]So we’re stealing Iraqi oil? Really?
Can patb or anyone else enlighten me as to how much we’ve stolen?
It’s my understanding that while we’ve spent about $0.7T to change the regime in Iraq, we have not taken ANY of their oil, tempting and easy as that might have been.
Am I wrong?
KSMountain
Participant[quote=patb]I’d be curious to know how many people wanting to picket BP
were quite happy to have Bush invade Iraq to steal their oil?[/quote]So we’re stealing Iraqi oil? Really?
Can patb or anyone else enlighten me as to how much we’ve stolen?
It’s my understanding that while we’ve spent about $0.7T to change the regime in Iraq, we have not taken ANY of their oil, tempting and easy as that might have been.
Am I wrong?
KSMountain
Participant[quote=patb]I’d be curious to know how many people wanting to picket BP
were quite happy to have Bush invade Iraq to steal their oil?[/quote]So we’re stealing Iraqi oil? Really?
Can patb or anyone else enlighten me as to how much we’ve stolen?
It’s my understanding that while we’ve spent about $0.7T to change the regime in Iraq, we have not taken ANY of their oil, tempting and easy as that might have been.
Am I wrong?
KSMountain
Participant[quote=patb]I’d be curious to know how many people wanting to picket BP
were quite happy to have Bush invade Iraq to steal their oil?[/quote]So we’re stealing Iraqi oil? Really?
Can patb or anyone else enlighten me as to how much we’ve stolen?
It’s my understanding that while we’ve spent about $0.7T to change the regime in Iraq, we have not taken ANY of their oil, tempting and easy as that might have been.
Am I wrong?
KSMountain
Participant[quote=patb]I’d be curious to know how many people wanting to picket BP
were quite happy to have Bush invade Iraq to steal their oil?[/quote]So we’re stealing Iraqi oil? Really?
Can patb or anyone else enlighten me as to how much we’ve stolen?
It’s my understanding that while we’ve spent about $0.7T to change the regime in Iraq, we have not taken ANY of their oil, tempting and easy as that might have been.
Am I wrong?
KSMountain
ParticipantJeff Bridges – American.
KSMountain
ParticipantJeff Bridges – American.
KSMountain
ParticipantJeff Bridges – American.
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