ObamaCare…coming soon

[ucodegen]

yeah, lets have the french system…

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1S1-9199902100263591.html
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/science/aids/073192sci-aids.html

and a court result….

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-court-dismisses–aidstainted-blood-case-647310.html
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/fran-j28.shtml

They were delivering known AIDS tainted blood to transfusions.. because they didn’t want the cost of destroying their blood supply… nice!

It took them more than 10 years to finally bring these people to justice (maybe).. you can’t sue the state in France.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Duke: Did you happen to watch the “60 Minutes” segment featuring President Obama? He did address the tort reform issue, after Steve Kroft brought it up, but then seemed to backtrack in terms of how to deal with it.

I think there are several good European models, including the French, Swiss and British, that are worth looking at.

However, until we’re truly ready to address the specter of “defensive medicine” (doctors performing needless tests and procedures due to a fear of litigation), I think we lose a major means of both controlling the system (in terms of directing truly necessary treatment) and controlling the costs (establishing caps and fundamentally reforming how risks/exposures/liabilities are handled).

Further, I believe as long as we allow cretins like Rep. Wilson to heckle a President addressing a joint session of Congress and then claim victim status, we lose the ability to engage in a meaningful, FACT based, dialogue.

I’m as conservative as they come, but that outburst was unconscionable and perfectly illustrates that we’re allowing the yahoos, ideologues and dolts to control the discourse and thus the system. Enough is enough.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Duke: Did you happen to watch the “60 Minutes” segment featuring President Obama? He did address the tort reform issue, after Steve Kroft brought it up, but then seemed to backtrack in terms of how to deal with it.

I think there are several good European models, including the French, Swiss and British, that are worth looking at.

However, until we’re truly ready to address the specter of “defensive medicine” (doctors performing needless tests and procedures due to a fear of litigation), I think we lose a major means of both controlling the system (in terms of directing truly necessary treatment) and controlling the costs (establishing caps and fundamentally reforming how risks/exposures/liabilities are handled).

Further, I believe as long as we allow cretins like Rep. Wilson to heckle a President addressing a joint session of Congress and then claim victim status, we lose the ability to engage in a meaningful, FACT based, dialogue.

I’m as conservative as they come, but that outburst was unconscionable and perfectly illustrates that we’re allowing the yahoos, ideologues and dolts to control the discourse and thus the system. Enough is enough.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Duke: Did you happen to watch the “60 Minutes” segment featuring President Obama? He did address the tort reform issue, after Steve Kroft brought it up, but then seemed to backtrack in terms of how to deal with it.

I think there are several good European models, including the French, Swiss and British, that are worth looking at.

However, until we’re truly ready to address the specter of “defensive medicine” (doctors performing needless tests and procedures due to a fear of litigation), I think we lose a major means of both controlling the system (in terms of directing truly necessary treatment) and controlling the costs (establishing caps and fundamentally reforming how risks/exposures/liabilities are handled).

Further, I believe as long as we allow cretins like Rep. Wilson to heckle a President addressing a joint session of Congress and then claim victim status, we lose the ability to engage in a meaningful, FACT based, dialogue.

I’m as conservative as they come, but that outburst was unconscionable and perfectly illustrates that we’re allowing the yahoos, ideologues and dolts to control the discourse and thus the system. Enough is enough.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Duke: Did you happen to watch the “60 Minutes” segment featuring President Obama? He did address the tort reform issue, after Steve Kroft brought it up, but then seemed to backtrack in terms of how to deal with it.

I think there are several good European models, including the French, Swiss and British, that are worth looking at.

However, until we’re truly ready to address the specter of “defensive medicine” (doctors performing needless tests and procedures due to a fear of litigation), I think we lose a major means of both controlling the system (in terms of directing truly necessary treatment) and controlling the costs (establishing caps and fundamentally reforming how risks/exposures/liabilities are handled).

Further, I believe as long as we allow cretins like Rep. Wilson to heckle a President addressing a joint session of Congress and then claim victim status, we lose the ability to engage in a meaningful, FACT based, dialogue.

I’m as conservative as they come, but that outburst was unconscionable and perfectly illustrates that we’re allowing the yahoos, ideologues and dolts to control the discourse and thus the system. Enough is enough.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Duke: Did you happen to watch the “60 Minutes” segment featuring President Obama? He did address the tort reform issue, after Steve Kroft brought it up, but then seemed to backtrack in terms of how to deal with it.

I think there are several good European models, including the French, Swiss and British, that are worth looking at.

However, until we’re truly ready to address the specter of “defensive medicine” (doctors performing needless tests and procedures due to a fear of litigation), I think we lose a major means of both controlling the system (in terms of directing truly necessary treatment) and controlling the costs (establishing caps and fundamentally reforming how risks/exposures/liabilities are handled).

Further, I believe as long as we allow cretins like Rep. Wilson to heckle a President addressing a joint session of Congress and then claim victim status, we lose the ability to engage in a meaningful, FACT based, dialogue.

I’m as conservative as they come, but that outburst was unconscionable and perfectly illustrates that we’re allowing the yahoos, ideologues and dolts to control the discourse and thus the system. Enough is enough.

[Dukehorn]

So one case and you’re willing to lose 2 years of life expectancy and add 5% of GDP?

Meanwhile 18,000 uninsured Americans are dying every year.

How do you propose handling the type of tort cases you linked? That’s not a healthcare issue per se, it’s a legal issue.

PS Boy, your compassion is pencil thin….. Did you have any suggestions on how Ms. White could get healthcare under her pre-existing condition or did she deserve to die?

[Dukehorn]

So one case and you’re willing to lose 2 years of life expectancy and add 5% of GDP?

Meanwhile 18,000 uninsured Americans are dying every year.

How do you propose handling the type of tort cases you linked? That’s not a healthcare issue per se, it’s a legal issue.

PS Boy, your compassion is pencil thin….. Did you have any suggestions on how Ms. White could get healthcare under her pre-existing condition or did she deserve to die?

[Dukehorn]

So one case and you’re willing to lose 2 years of life expectancy and add 5% of GDP?

Meanwhile 18,000 uninsured Americans are dying every year.

How do you propose handling the type of tort cases you linked? That’s not a healthcare issue per se, it’s a legal issue.

PS Boy, your compassion is pencil thin….. Did you have any suggestions on how Ms. White could get healthcare under her pre-existing condition or did she deserve to die?

[Dukehorn]

So one case and you’re willing to lose 2 years of life expectancy and add 5% of GDP?

Meanwhile 18,000 uninsured Americans are dying every year.

How do you propose handling the type of tort cases you linked? That’s not a healthcare issue per se, it’s a legal issue.

PS Boy, your compassion is pencil thin….. Did you have any suggestions on how Ms. White could get healthcare under her pre-existing condition or did she deserve to die?

[Dukehorn]

So one case and you’re willing to lose 2 years of life expectancy and add 5% of GDP?

Meanwhile 18,000 uninsured Americans are dying every year.

How do you propose handling the type of tort cases you linked? That’s not a healthcare issue per se, it’s a legal issue.

PS Boy, your compassion is pencil thin….. Did you have any suggestions on how Ms. White could get healthcare under her pre-existing condition or did she deserve to die?

[Dukehorn]

Hi Allan,

I think tort reform is the big problem. As a lawyer practicing at a biotech, I don’t see the plaintiff industry giving in to it.

Uco’s point reflects the difficulty. Folks hate how our legal system impact costs, but then will point out cases in less litigious societies where it’s harder to bring “justice”.

Frankly, we can’t have it both ways. We can’t use our legal system to hold folks accountable and then complain when it spawns higher costs.

I’m willing to fall on the side of limiting verdicts and lowering costs in order to get universal healthcare in place (so yeah, call me a socialist but it’s actually quite the conservative pro-business viewpoint isn’t it? (tort reform that is)). We need the centrists to get into action….

[Dukehorn]

Hi Allan,

I think tort reform is the big problem. As a lawyer practicing at a biotech, I don’t see the plaintiff industry giving in to it.

Uco’s point reflects the difficulty. Folks hate how our legal system impact costs, but then will point out cases in less litigious societies where it’s harder to bring “justice”.

Frankly, we can’t have it both ways. We can’t use our legal system to hold folks accountable and then complain when it spawns higher costs.

I’m willing to fall on the side of limiting verdicts and lowering costs in order to get universal healthcare in place (so yeah, call me a socialist but it’s actually quite the conservative pro-business viewpoint isn’t it? (tort reform that is)). We need the centrists to get into action….

[Dukehorn]

Hi Allan,

I think tort reform is the big problem. As a lawyer practicing at a biotech, I don’t see the plaintiff industry giving in to it.

Uco’s point reflects the difficulty. Folks hate how our legal system impact costs, but then will point out cases in less litigious societies where it’s harder to bring “justice”.

Frankly, we can’t have it both ways. We can’t use our legal system to hold folks accountable and then complain when it spawns higher costs.

I’m willing to fall on the side of limiting verdicts and lowering costs in order to get universal healthcare in place (so yeah, call me a socialist but it’s actually quite the conservative pro-business viewpoint isn’t it? (tort reform that is)). We need the centrists to get into action….

[Dukehorn]

Hi Allan,

I think tort reform is the big problem. As a lawyer practicing at a biotech, I don’t see the plaintiff industry giving in to it.

Uco’s point reflects the difficulty. Folks hate how our legal system impact costs, but then will point out cases in less litigious societies where it’s harder to bring “justice”.

Frankly, we can’t have it both ways. We can’t use our legal system to hold folks accountable and then complain when it spawns higher costs.

I’m willing to fall on the side of limiting verdicts and lowering costs in order to get universal healthcare in place (so yeah, call me a socialist but it’s actually quite the conservative pro-business viewpoint isn’t it? (tort reform that is)). We need the centrists to get into action….

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