[KSMountain]

@ILoveRegulation –
Are you able to discuss issues and ideas dispassionately? Can you debate without going ad hominem almost immediately?

For the record (replying to an earlier allegation), I love facts. I like to go to actual source references rather than rely on *anyone* else’s (of any political persuasion) regurgitated hyperbolic pablum.

Now, can we get back to the OT?

I think it is interesting that currently evidently the Japanese are concerned most about reactor 3 while the Americans are most concerned about the spent fuel pool of reactor 4. There is going to be power there soon. Maybe they will be able to cool 4’s pool once they have power. But If that pool has a leak then it will be interesting times.

Still there is a lot of ingenuity in the world cadre of engineers and I have faith the situation will ultimately be resolved. That may not be as thrilling or fun to wax cataclysmic about, but folks aren’t going to just give up. Watch and see.

[KSMountain]

@ILoveRegulation –
Are you able to discuss issues and ideas dispassionately? Can you debate without going ad hominem almost immediately?

For the record (replying to an earlier allegation), I love facts. I like to go to actual source references rather than rely on *anyone* else’s (of any political persuasion) regurgitated hyperbolic pablum.

Now, can we get back to the OT?

I think it is interesting that currently evidently the Japanese are concerned most about reactor 3 while the Americans are most concerned about the spent fuel pool of reactor 4. There is going to be power there soon. Maybe they will be able to cool 4’s pool once they have power. But If that pool has a leak then it will be interesting times.

Still there is a lot of ingenuity in the world cadre of engineers and I have faith the situation will ultimately be resolved. That may not be as thrilling or fun to wax cataclysmic about, but folks aren’t going to just give up. Watch and see.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]I doubt that the US will intervene militarily in Lybia.

The no fly zone seems late. Khadafi has pretty much retaken the whole country.[/quote]
I am content for the U.S. to sit this one out.

Let the countries that often feel we are too aggressive or impulsive take a shot. Let Italy or France spend lives and treasure.

I think we can credibly say we have our hands full at the moment.

Also, folks always seem to talk about how easy things are going to be before we get involved, then they become messy and more complex real quick.

A no fly zone *is* late and would not be cheap nor without casualties and other consequences.

If the argument is “We need to go in to save the people from a dictator” then we are overdue in many other countries in the world simultaneously right now.

Allan’s idea on another thread of lobbing a few SLCM’s I could support I guess if it were likely to do more harm than good. In making that evaluation though I’d want TPTB to consider the impact in other countries besides just Libya and to try to consider say the 5-year picture.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]I doubt that the US will intervene militarily in Lybia.

The no fly zone seems late. Khadafi has pretty much retaken the whole country.[/quote]
I am content for the U.S. to sit this one out.

Let the countries that often feel we are too aggressive or impulsive take a shot. Let Italy or France spend lives and treasure.

I think we can credibly say we have our hands full at the moment.

Also, folks always seem to talk about how easy things are going to be before we get involved, then they become messy and more complex real quick.

A no fly zone *is* late and would not be cheap nor without casualties and other consequences.

If the argument is “We need to go in to save the people from a dictator” then we are overdue in many other countries in the world simultaneously right now.

Allan’s idea on another thread of lobbing a few SLCM’s I could support I guess if it were likely to do more harm than good. In making that evaluation though I’d want TPTB to consider the impact in other countries besides just Libya and to try to consider say the 5-year picture.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]I doubt that the US will intervene militarily in Lybia.

The no fly zone seems late. Khadafi has pretty much retaken the whole country.[/quote]
I am content for the U.S. to sit this one out.

Let the countries that often feel we are too aggressive or impulsive take a shot. Let Italy or France spend lives and treasure.

I think we can credibly say we have our hands full at the moment.

Also, folks always seem to talk about how easy things are going to be before we get involved, then they become messy and more complex real quick.

A no fly zone *is* late and would not be cheap nor without casualties and other consequences.

If the argument is “We need to go in to save the people from a dictator” then we are overdue in many other countries in the world simultaneously right now.

Allan’s idea on another thread of lobbing a few SLCM’s I could support I guess if it were likely to do more harm than good. In making that evaluation though I’d want TPTB to consider the impact in other countries besides just Libya and to try to consider say the 5-year picture.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]I doubt that the US will intervene militarily in Lybia.

The no fly zone seems late. Khadafi has pretty much retaken the whole country.[/quote]
I am content for the U.S. to sit this one out.

Let the countries that often feel we are too aggressive or impulsive take a shot. Let Italy or France spend lives and treasure.

I think we can credibly say we have our hands full at the moment.

Also, folks always seem to talk about how easy things are going to be before we get involved, then they become messy and more complex real quick.

A no fly zone *is* late and would not be cheap nor without casualties and other consequences.

If the argument is “We need to go in to save the people from a dictator” then we are overdue in many other countries in the world simultaneously right now.

Allan’s idea on another thread of lobbing a few SLCM’s I could support I guess if it were likely to do more harm than good. In making that evaluation though I’d want TPTB to consider the impact in other countries besides just Libya and to try to consider say the 5-year picture.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]I doubt that the US will intervene militarily in Lybia.

The no fly zone seems late. Khadafi has pretty much retaken the whole country.[/quote]
I am content for the U.S. to sit this one out.

Let the countries that often feel we are too aggressive or impulsive take a shot. Let Italy or France spend lives and treasure.

I think we can credibly say we have our hands full at the moment.

Also, folks always seem to talk about how easy things are going to be before we get involved, then they become messy and more complex real quick.

A no fly zone *is* late and would not be cheap nor without casualties and other consequences.

If the argument is “We need to go in to save the people from a dictator” then we are overdue in many other countries in the world simultaneously right now.

Allan’s idea on another thread of lobbing a few SLCM’s I could support I guess if it were likely to do more harm than good. In making that evaluation though I’d want TPTB to consider the impact in other countries besides just Libya and to try to consider say the 5-year picture.

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]And here comes the idiotbertarian brigade to crack wise. Shouldn’t you morons be congregating on the NPR thread bitching about the infinitesimal portion of the federal budget that organization receives?

You better be careful. One of your kind was inadvertently exposed to Mother Jones earlier in this thread and experienced a massive amount of cognitive dissonance after reading an article entirely based on facts. He hasn’t been seen since. You don’t want the same to happen to you.[/quote]
Maybe you could tone down the vitriol a bit.

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]And here comes the idiotbertarian brigade to crack wise. Shouldn’t you morons be congregating on the NPR thread bitching about the infinitesimal portion of the federal budget that organization receives?

You better be careful. One of your kind was inadvertently exposed to Mother Jones earlier in this thread and experienced a massive amount of cognitive dissonance after reading an article entirely based on facts. He hasn’t been seen since. You don’t want the same to happen to you.[/quote]
Maybe you could tone down the vitriol a bit.

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]And here comes the idiotbertarian brigade to crack wise. Shouldn’t you morons be congregating on the NPR thread bitching about the infinitesimal portion of the federal budget that organization receives?

You better be careful. One of your kind was inadvertently exposed to Mother Jones earlier in this thread and experienced a massive amount of cognitive dissonance after reading an article entirely based on facts. He hasn’t been seen since. You don’t want the same to happen to you.[/quote]
Maybe you could tone down the vitriol a bit.

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]And here comes the idiotbertarian brigade to crack wise. Shouldn’t you morons be congregating on the NPR thread bitching about the infinitesimal portion of the federal budget that organization receives?

You better be careful. One of your kind was inadvertently exposed to Mother Jones earlier in this thread and experienced a massive amount of cognitive dissonance after reading an article entirely based on facts. He hasn’t been seen since. You don’t want the same to happen to you.[/quote]
Maybe you could tone down the vitriol a bit.

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]And here comes the idiotbertarian brigade to crack wise. Shouldn’t you morons be congregating on the NPR thread bitching about the infinitesimal portion of the federal budget that organization receives?

You better be careful. One of your kind was inadvertently exposed to Mother Jones earlier in this thread and experienced a massive amount of cognitive dissonance after reading an article entirely based on facts. He hasn’t been seen since. You don’t want the same to happen to you.[/quote]
Maybe you could tone down the vitriol a bit.

[KSMountain]

[quote=AN]If we’re affected by this, then ALL of Asia is in deep doodoo. All of Europe will have the fate as West coast of US (roughly 5,540 air miles between Berlin and Tokyo vs 5,433 between LA and Tokyo).[/quote]
Well, it depends on wind/jetstream, right? I believe the prevailing winds there are to the East.

After following this all day, I think we’re going to be alright. OTOH, that town with 9,500 souls missing is not going to be alright for a looong time.

[KSMountain]

[quote=AN]If we’re affected by this, then ALL of Asia is in deep doodoo. All of Europe will have the fate as West coast of US (roughly 5,540 air miles between Berlin and Tokyo vs 5,433 between LA and Tokyo).[/quote]
Well, it depends on wind/jetstream, right? I believe the prevailing winds there are to the East.

After following this all day, I think we’re going to be alright. OTOH, that town with 9,500 souls missing is not going to be alright for a looong time.

[KSMountain]

[quote=AN]If we’re affected by this, then ALL of Asia is in deep doodoo. All of Europe will have the fate as West coast of US (roughly 5,540 air miles between Berlin and Tokyo vs 5,433 between LA and Tokyo).[/quote]
Well, it depends on wind/jetstream, right? I believe the prevailing winds there are to the East.

After following this all day, I think we’re going to be alright. OTOH, that town with 9,500 souls missing is not going to be alright for a looong time.

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