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[quote=bearishgurl]
This post just displays the depth and breadth of your misperceptions and ignorance about areas of SD County you may have never set foot into yourself. I can tick off from the top of my head more than a dozen SD metro zip codes that have decent-sized SFR’s with decent-sized lots currently listed for $170K to $300K. And yes, El Cajon is its OWN self-contained city with its own “refurbished” downtown area which is quite large. For a potential first-time buyer Pigg who has stated they don’t even have any children, you come off here as having ultra champagne tastes on a beer budget.
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Hahahaha…BG. I really think you need to try living somewhere else. Just to see how it is. Maybe you have recently, but it sure does not seem like it. SD home prices are twice the price of other markets (save LA, SF, NY). most of El Cajon is a crap hole, even La Mesa is not a very safe place. I had several coworkers who lived near the La Mesa DT, and they can recount story upon story for you of broken into cars, and vandalized homes. BG I challenge you to open your eyes. I have lived in many places in the last 10 years, and SD was by far the least affordable. So yes houses exist for less the 175 (or whatever number) but are they even close to suitable (as defined by other markets) for a middle class family? Or are you going to be living in Barrio Logan (I have been there too btw)?

I am sure your knowledge of the area is far superior to mine, no argument here. I am even sure there are a few nice homes here and there, but they are pockets (a mere block or two) in a sea of crap.

So I may have champagne tastes for SD (actually I have a soft spot for micro brews), but for other markets, I am more than easily satisfied at a fraction of the price. I am currently renting a sfr 2 bed 2 bath on a quiet street for 1150. It is mind blowing how cheap it is.

You accuse me of never having set foot in these fictitiously reasonably priced zip codes. But I have been to many inland neighborhoods. (one of my favorite things is to to get off on random exists and get lost trying to go in one general direction) So no, I have not been to Jamul or bonita, but I have been all over South DT, el Cajon, la mesa, a little bit of chula vista , IB, Spring valley, Ramona, escondido, carlsbad. The point is, most of these “affordable neighborhoods” I would not want my wife to go for a run before sunrise or after dark. I would give my kids a video game instead of a bicycle (and I hate video games).

300k is a lot of money, And in most markets, it buys you a lot of house in a nice neighborhood.

[jstoesz]

[quote=bearishgurl]
This post just displays the depth and breadth of your misperceptions and ignorance about areas of SD County you may have never set foot into yourself. I can tick off from the top of my head more than a dozen SD metro zip codes that have decent-sized SFR’s with decent-sized lots currently listed for $170K to $300K. And yes, El Cajon is its OWN self-contained city with its own “refurbished” downtown area which is quite large. For a potential first-time buyer Pigg who has stated they don’t even have any children, you come off here as having ultra champagne tastes on a beer budget.
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Hahahaha…BG. I really think you need to try living somewhere else. Just to see how it is. Maybe you have recently, but it sure does not seem like it. SD home prices are twice the price of other markets (save LA, SF, NY). most of El Cajon is a crap hole, even La Mesa is not a very safe place. I had several coworkers who lived near the La Mesa DT, and they can recount story upon story for you of broken into cars, and vandalized homes. BG I challenge you to open your eyes. I have lived in many places in the last 10 years, and SD was by far the least affordable. So yes houses exist for less the 175 (or whatever number) but are they even close to suitable (as defined by other markets) for a middle class family? Or are you going to be living in Barrio Logan (I have been there too btw)?

I am sure your knowledge of the area is far superior to mine, no argument here. I am even sure there are a few nice homes here and there, but they are pockets (a mere block or two) in a sea of crap.

So I may have champagne tastes for SD (actually I have a soft spot for micro brews), but for other markets, I am more than easily satisfied at a fraction of the price. I am currently renting a sfr 2 bed 2 bath on a quiet street for 1150. It is mind blowing how cheap it is.

You accuse me of never having set foot in these fictitiously reasonably priced zip codes. But I have been to many inland neighborhoods. (one of my favorite things is to to get off on random exists and get lost trying to go in one general direction) So no, I have not been to Jamul or bonita, but I have been all over South DT, el Cajon, la mesa, a little bit of chula vista , IB, Spring valley, Ramona, escondido, carlsbad. The point is, most of these “affordable neighborhoods” I would not want my wife to go for a run before sunrise or after dark. I would give my kids a video game instead of a bicycle (and I hate video games).

300k is a lot of money, And in most markets, it buys you a lot of house in a nice neighborhood.

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One more note…I have lived on the beach in del Mar and downtown in encinitas and they pail in comparison to the neighborhood and culture of pt Loma… but I like sailing.

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One more note…I have lived on the beach in del Mar and downtown in encinitas and they pail in comparison to the neighborhood and culture of pt Loma… but I like sailing.

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One more note…I have lived on the beach in del Mar and downtown in encinitas and they pail in comparison to the neighborhood and culture of pt Loma… but I like sailing.

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One more note…I have lived on the beach in del Mar and downtown in encinitas and they pail in comparison to the neighborhood and culture of pt Loma… but I like sailing.

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One more note…I have lived on the beach in del Mar and downtown in encinitas and they pail in comparison to the neighborhood and culture of pt Loma… but I like sailing.

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I wanted to buy there (and still do) not because of the architecture (although it does’t hurt), or the lot sizes. I wanted to move there because of the neighborhood culture, the sailing culture. It has a unique vibe that only those who have lived there can understand I think. It is a special place, especially the shelter island area which screams a different vibe from the rest of SD. The sailing culture is thick. The superficiality of the regulars is not so in your face as the rest of the w. of the 5. The boat laborers, and fishing commerce. The Fiddlers green, old Venice, and shelter island seafood. La playa, and sunset cliffs, cabrillo and ralphs (it is a paradise of the ocean, forget the beaches). How can you beat the boating life of shelter island. I dreamed of having my kids race sabots (forget soccer). Maybe still I will buy a 40ft sailboat and raise my (planned) 5 kids on it (probably 3 kids, if my wife has her way). That way I can shun the RE prices and live the eccentric lifestyle that I crave (hopefully I can convince my wife!).

[jstoesz]

I wanted to buy there (and still do) not because of the architecture (although it does’t hurt), or the lot sizes. I wanted to move there because of the neighborhood culture, the sailing culture. It has a unique vibe that only those who have lived there can understand I think. It is a special place, especially the shelter island area which screams a different vibe from the rest of SD. The sailing culture is thick. The superficiality of the regulars is not so in your face as the rest of the w. of the 5. The boat laborers, and fishing commerce. The Fiddlers green, old Venice, and shelter island seafood. La playa, and sunset cliffs, cabrillo and ralphs (it is a paradise of the ocean, forget the beaches). How can you beat the boating life of shelter island. I dreamed of having my kids race sabots (forget soccer). Maybe still I will buy a 40ft sailboat and raise my (planned) 5 kids on it (probably 3 kids, if my wife has her way). That way I can shun the RE prices and live the eccentric lifestyle that I crave (hopefully I can convince my wife!).

[jstoesz]

I wanted to buy there (and still do) not because of the architecture (although it does’t hurt), or the lot sizes. I wanted to move there because of the neighborhood culture, the sailing culture. It has a unique vibe that only those who have lived there can understand I think. It is a special place, especially the shelter island area which screams a different vibe from the rest of SD. The sailing culture is thick. The superficiality of the regulars is not so in your face as the rest of the w. of the 5. The boat laborers, and fishing commerce. The Fiddlers green, old Venice, and shelter island seafood. La playa, and sunset cliffs, cabrillo and ralphs (it is a paradise of the ocean, forget the beaches). How can you beat the boating life of shelter island. I dreamed of having my kids race sabots (forget soccer). Maybe still I will buy a 40ft sailboat and raise my (planned) 5 kids on it (probably 3 kids, if my wife has her way). That way I can shun the RE prices and live the eccentric lifestyle that I crave (hopefully I can convince my wife!).

[jstoesz]

I wanted to buy there (and still do) not because of the architecture (although it does’t hurt), or the lot sizes. I wanted to move there because of the neighborhood culture, the sailing culture. It has a unique vibe that only those who have lived there can understand I think. It is a special place, especially the shelter island area which screams a different vibe from the rest of SD. The sailing culture is thick. The superficiality of the regulars is not so in your face as the rest of the w. of the 5. The boat laborers, and fishing commerce. The Fiddlers green, old Venice, and shelter island seafood. La playa, and sunset cliffs, cabrillo and ralphs (it is a paradise of the ocean, forget the beaches). How can you beat the boating life of shelter island. I dreamed of having my kids race sabots (forget soccer). Maybe still I will buy a 40ft sailboat and raise my (planned) 5 kids on it (probably 3 kids, if my wife has her way). That way I can shun the RE prices and live the eccentric lifestyle that I crave (hopefully I can convince my wife!).

[jstoesz]

I wanted to buy there (and still do) not because of the architecture (although it does’t hurt), or the lot sizes. I wanted to move there because of the neighborhood culture, the sailing culture. It has a unique vibe that only those who have lived there can understand I think. It is a special place, especially the shelter island area which screams a different vibe from the rest of SD. The sailing culture is thick. The superficiality of the regulars is not so in your face as the rest of the w. of the 5. The boat laborers, and fishing commerce. The Fiddlers green, old Venice, and shelter island seafood. La playa, and sunset cliffs, cabrillo and ralphs (it is a paradise of the ocean, forget the beaches). How can you beat the boating life of shelter island. I dreamed of having my kids race sabots (forget soccer). Maybe still I will buy a 40ft sailboat and raise my (planned) 5 kids on it (probably 3 kids, if my wife has her way). That way I can shun the RE prices and live the eccentric lifestyle that I crave (hopefully I can convince my wife!).

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[quote=SD Realtor]With regards to those writing code for a living and depending on W2 income, I can say that with 100% certainty that 0% of them have ever asked me to look at homes in MH or PL. Furthermore none of them have even asked me to put those areas in for a home search. They did not care about High Tech High school as well. They wanted a neighborhood that had alot of kids, that had a good school district and they were much more focussed on starting a family or growing an existing young family.

I am not sure if there is even a single Pigg poster or lurker with young children who has ever chimed in about wanting to raise the kids in Mission Hills or even 92103 for that matter. Maybe not so much for Point Loma but really, parse through the archives and you guys tell me how many posters you see making queries about raising kids in Mission Hills and Point Loma.

Please don’t get me wrong, these are beautiful places to live. However the demand for these places is much smaller then the demand for what the average engineer and his wife want.

One thing that I have found to be common with most my clients regardless of profession, race, or religion is that those with kids all wanted to be in the same spots. Again, CV, PQ, Scripps, Encinitas, 4S, some UC and Clairmont as well. None ever mentioned MH or PL. I am not saying that there are not exceptions to the rule. Bearish and Pem if you deal with young families every day and are trying to find them homes to live then you can chime in and let me know of how many of them are looking to raise thier families in MH or PL.

I know you guys all may have some exceptions to the rule, but based on my own experience of people I work with who have bought and who are looking they are exceptions and not anything more then that.[/quote]

I guess I am an exception to the rule. I am a Mechanical Engineer and my wife is a PA. So we are a professional couple with lots of education and making a very strong combined income, but the mere thought of CV or 4s is positively nauseating (and my wife even grew up in Irvine). So consider me the exception, because I wanted to raise kids in Pt. Loma, but that was not in the cards.

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[quote=SD Realtor]With regards to those writing code for a living and depending on W2 income, I can say that with 100% certainty that 0% of them have ever asked me to look at homes in MH or PL. Furthermore none of them have even asked me to put those areas in for a home search. They did not care about High Tech High school as well. They wanted a neighborhood that had alot of kids, that had a good school district and they were much more focussed on starting a family or growing an existing young family.

I am not sure if there is even a single Pigg poster or lurker with young children who has ever chimed in about wanting to raise the kids in Mission Hills or even 92103 for that matter. Maybe not so much for Point Loma but really, parse through the archives and you guys tell me how many posters you see making queries about raising kids in Mission Hills and Point Loma.

Please don’t get me wrong, these are beautiful places to live. However the demand for these places is much smaller then the demand for what the average engineer and his wife want.

One thing that I have found to be common with most my clients regardless of profession, race, or religion is that those with kids all wanted to be in the same spots. Again, CV, PQ, Scripps, Encinitas, 4S, some UC and Clairmont as well. None ever mentioned MH or PL. I am not saying that there are not exceptions to the rule. Bearish and Pem if you deal with young families every day and are trying to find them homes to live then you can chime in and let me know of how many of them are looking to raise thier families in MH or PL.

I know you guys all may have some exceptions to the rule, but based on my own experience of people I work with who have bought and who are looking they are exceptions and not anything more then that.[/quote]

I guess I am an exception to the rule. I am a Mechanical Engineer and my wife is a PA. So we are a professional couple with lots of education and making a very strong combined income, but the mere thought of CV or 4s is positively nauseating (and my wife even grew up in Irvine). So consider me the exception, because I wanted to raise kids in Pt. Loma, but that was not in the cards.

[jstoesz]

[quote=SD Realtor]With regards to those writing code for a living and depending on W2 income, I can say that with 100% certainty that 0% of them have ever asked me to look at homes in MH or PL. Furthermore none of them have even asked me to put those areas in for a home search. They did not care about High Tech High school as well. They wanted a neighborhood that had alot of kids, that had a good school district and they were much more focussed on starting a family or growing an existing young family.

I am not sure if there is even a single Pigg poster or lurker with young children who has ever chimed in about wanting to raise the kids in Mission Hills or even 92103 for that matter. Maybe not so much for Point Loma but really, parse through the archives and you guys tell me how many posters you see making queries about raising kids in Mission Hills and Point Loma.

Please don’t get me wrong, these are beautiful places to live. However the demand for these places is much smaller then the demand for what the average engineer and his wife want.

One thing that I have found to be common with most my clients regardless of profession, race, or religion is that those with kids all wanted to be in the same spots. Again, CV, PQ, Scripps, Encinitas, 4S, some UC and Clairmont as well. None ever mentioned MH or PL. I am not saying that there are not exceptions to the rule. Bearish and Pem if you deal with young families every day and are trying to find them homes to live then you can chime in and let me know of how many of them are looking to raise thier families in MH or PL.

I know you guys all may have some exceptions to the rule, but based on my own experience of people I work with who have bought and who are looking they are exceptions and not anything more then that.[/quote]

I guess I am an exception to the rule. I am a Mechanical Engineer and my wife is a PA. So we are a professional couple with lots of education and making a very strong combined income, but the mere thought of CV or 4s is positively nauseating (and my wife even grew up in Irvine). So consider me the exception, because I wanted to raise kids in Pt. Loma, but that was not in the cards.

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