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jstoeszParticipant[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]You should do some research on the issue.
[link][/quote]The movement draws adherents from people of diverse political beliefs including liberals, conservatives, and libertarians.
Are you trying to move the goalposts, or are you just totally missing the point?
Speaking of conspiracy theories and moving goalposts:
[…] he managed to be detained by police twice during his university years: once for stealing a Christmas wreath as a fraternity prank and once for trying to tear down the goalposts […]
Be sure to include the WHOLE article when you cut/paste and spam it to your friends![/quote]
SK,
Puruse another wiki page for data if you would be so kind not someones individual opinion on the matter. I should have linked this one instead, but I thought the one I linked was more specific to the point (I was wrong, they took out the data). You will find those who have significant doubts about the US government involvement to be quite high…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks_opinion_polls
Got to love data.
And to the transcripts thing. I think it is terrifically stupid for anyone to give an ear to trump, but that is why it is so funny. I linked that article about trump’s practical joke because I find it spot on. Sorry for the spam, I thought you too would find it comical. It makes conservatives look stupid (which most/many are)…
jstoeszParticipant[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]You should do some research on the issue.
[link][/quote]The movement draws adherents from people of diverse political beliefs including liberals, conservatives, and libertarians.
Are you trying to move the goalposts, or are you just totally missing the point?
Speaking of conspiracy theories and moving goalposts:
[…] he managed to be detained by police twice during his university years: once for stealing a Christmas wreath as a fraternity prank and once for trying to tear down the goalposts […]
Be sure to include the WHOLE article when you cut/paste and spam it to your friends![/quote]
SK,
Puruse another wiki page for data if you would be so kind not someones individual opinion on the matter. I should have linked this one instead, but I thought the one I linked was more specific to the point (I was wrong, they took out the data). You will find those who have significant doubts about the US government involvement to be quite high…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks_opinion_polls
Got to love data.
And to the transcripts thing. I think it is terrifically stupid for anyone to give an ear to trump, but that is why it is so funny. I linked that article about trump’s practical joke because I find it spot on. Sorry for the spam, I thought you too would find it comical. It makes conservatives look stupid (which most/many are)…
jstoeszParticipant[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]You should do some research on the issue.
[link][/quote]The movement draws adherents from people of diverse political beliefs including liberals, conservatives, and libertarians.
Are you trying to move the goalposts, or are you just totally missing the point?
Speaking of conspiracy theories and moving goalposts:
[…] he managed to be detained by police twice during his university years: once for stealing a Christmas wreath as a fraternity prank and once for trying to tear down the goalposts […]
Be sure to include the WHOLE article when you cut/paste and spam it to your friends![/quote]
SK,
Puruse another wiki page for data if you would be so kind not someones individual opinion on the matter. I should have linked this one instead, but I thought the one I linked was more specific to the point (I was wrong, they took out the data). You will find those who have significant doubts about the US government involvement to be quite high…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks_opinion_polls
Got to love data.
And to the transcripts thing. I think it is terrifically stupid for anyone to give an ear to trump, but that is why it is so funny. I linked that article about trump’s practical joke because I find it spot on. Sorry for the spam, I thought you too would find it comical. It makes conservatives look stupid (which most/many are)…
jstoeszParticipant[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]You should do some research on the issue.
[link][/quote]The movement draws adherents from people of diverse political beliefs including liberals, conservatives, and libertarians.
Are you trying to move the goalposts, or are you just totally missing the point?
Speaking of conspiracy theories and moving goalposts:
[…] he managed to be detained by police twice during his university years: once for stealing a Christmas wreath as a fraternity prank and once for trying to tear down the goalposts […]
Be sure to include the WHOLE article when you cut/paste and spam it to your friends![/quote]
SK,
Puruse another wiki page for data if you would be so kind not someones individual opinion on the matter. I should have linked this one instead, but I thought the one I linked was more specific to the point (I was wrong, they took out the data). You will find those who have significant doubts about the US government involvement to be quite high…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks_opinion_polls
Got to love data.
And to the transcripts thing. I think it is terrifically stupid for anyone to give an ear to trump, but that is why it is so funny. I linked that article about trump’s practical joke because I find it spot on. Sorry for the spam, I thought you too would find it comical. It makes conservatives look stupid (which most/many are)…
jstoeszParticipant[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]You should do some research on the issue.
[link][/quote]The movement draws adherents from people of diverse political beliefs including liberals, conservatives, and libertarians.
Are you trying to move the goalposts, or are you just totally missing the point?
Speaking of conspiracy theories and moving goalposts:
[…] he managed to be detained by police twice during his university years: once for stealing a Christmas wreath as a fraternity prank and once for trying to tear down the goalposts […]
Be sure to include the WHOLE article when you cut/paste and spam it to your friends![/quote]
SK,
Puruse another wiki page for data if you would be so kind not someones individual opinion on the matter. I should have linked this one instead, but I thought the one I linked was more specific to the point (I was wrong, they took out the data). You will find those who have significant doubts about the US government involvement to be quite high…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks_opinion_polls
Got to love data.
And to the transcripts thing. I think it is terrifically stupid for anyone to give an ear to trump, but that is why it is so funny. I linked that article about trump’s practical joke because I find it spot on. Sorry for the spam, I thought you too would find it comical. It makes conservatives look stupid (which most/many are)…
jstoeszParticipant[quote=SK in CV][quote=jstoesz]you guys are killing me…
Do you think for one second that the aggregate republicans are any dumber than the aggregate democrats?
You hold up the ignorant conspiracy birthers on the right as some shining example of stupidity, but what about the 911 truthers (or whatever they are called)?
What about the inner city welfare queens, the white trash dole subsister? The fact is much of the american populace is not too impressively intelligent.
This onesided narcissism is killing me. If we realize that most people are not too intelligent about politics, isn’t that a powerful example of the need for limited government? After all I do not want some know nothing democrat or republican affecting my life…[/quote]
I’ve only noticed one poster making references to republicans being dumber than democrats, so the “you guys” is a gross generalization.
And the false equivilence you’ve made between the birthers and 911truthers is simply not credible. This morning’s news brought polling results showing only 38% of Republicans believe Obama was born in the US. The 911truthers never had ANY traction, among democrats or others. Not a single elected federal politician gave it the time of day, unless they were assailing it. The press barely did. The 911truth thing was seen by most as unquestionable stupidity. The birther thing, not so much among Republicans.
They do it too fails miserably.[/quote]
You should do some research on the issue.
jstoeszParticipant[quote=SK in CV][quote=jstoesz]you guys are killing me…
Do you think for one second that the aggregate republicans are any dumber than the aggregate democrats?
You hold up the ignorant conspiracy birthers on the right as some shining example of stupidity, but what about the 911 truthers (or whatever they are called)?
What about the inner city welfare queens, the white trash dole subsister? The fact is much of the american populace is not too impressively intelligent.
This onesided narcissism is killing me. If we realize that most people are not too intelligent about politics, isn’t that a powerful example of the need for limited government? After all I do not want some know nothing democrat or republican affecting my life…[/quote]
I’ve only noticed one poster making references to republicans being dumber than democrats, so the “you guys” is a gross generalization.
And the false equivilence you’ve made between the birthers and 911truthers is simply not credible. This morning’s news brought polling results showing only 38% of Republicans believe Obama was born in the US. The 911truthers never had ANY traction, among democrats or others. Not a single elected federal politician gave it the time of day, unless they were assailing it. The press barely did. The 911truth thing was seen by most as unquestionable stupidity. The birther thing, not so much among Republicans.
They do it too fails miserably.[/quote]
You should do some research on the issue.
jstoeszParticipant[quote=SK in CV][quote=jstoesz]you guys are killing me…
Do you think for one second that the aggregate republicans are any dumber than the aggregate democrats?
You hold up the ignorant conspiracy birthers on the right as some shining example of stupidity, but what about the 911 truthers (or whatever they are called)?
What about the inner city welfare queens, the white trash dole subsister? The fact is much of the american populace is not too impressively intelligent.
This onesided narcissism is killing me. If we realize that most people are not too intelligent about politics, isn’t that a powerful example of the need for limited government? After all I do not want some know nothing democrat or republican affecting my life…[/quote]
I’ve only noticed one poster making references to republicans being dumber than democrats, so the “you guys” is a gross generalization.
And the false equivilence you’ve made between the birthers and 911truthers is simply not credible. This morning’s news brought polling results showing only 38% of Republicans believe Obama was born in the US. The 911truthers never had ANY traction, among democrats or others. Not a single elected federal politician gave it the time of day, unless they were assailing it. The press barely did. The 911truth thing was seen by most as unquestionable stupidity. The birther thing, not so much among Republicans.
They do it too fails miserably.[/quote]
You should do some research on the issue.
jstoeszParticipant[quote=SK in CV][quote=jstoesz]you guys are killing me…
Do you think for one second that the aggregate republicans are any dumber than the aggregate democrats?
You hold up the ignorant conspiracy birthers on the right as some shining example of stupidity, but what about the 911 truthers (or whatever they are called)?
What about the inner city welfare queens, the white trash dole subsister? The fact is much of the american populace is not too impressively intelligent.
This onesided narcissism is killing me. If we realize that most people are not too intelligent about politics, isn’t that a powerful example of the need for limited government? After all I do not want some know nothing democrat or republican affecting my life…[/quote]
I’ve only noticed one poster making references to republicans being dumber than democrats, so the “you guys” is a gross generalization.
And the false equivilence you’ve made between the birthers and 911truthers is simply not credible. This morning’s news brought polling results showing only 38% of Republicans believe Obama was born in the US. The 911truthers never had ANY traction, among democrats or others. Not a single elected federal politician gave it the time of day, unless they were assailing it. The press barely did. The 911truth thing was seen by most as unquestionable stupidity. The birther thing, not so much among Republicans.
They do it too fails miserably.[/quote]
You should do some research on the issue.
jstoeszParticipant[quote=SK in CV][quote=jstoesz]you guys are killing me…
Do you think for one second that the aggregate republicans are any dumber than the aggregate democrats?
You hold up the ignorant conspiracy birthers on the right as some shining example of stupidity, but what about the 911 truthers (or whatever they are called)?
What about the inner city welfare queens, the white trash dole subsister? The fact is much of the american populace is not too impressively intelligent.
This onesided narcissism is killing me. If we realize that most people are not too intelligent about politics, isn’t that a powerful example of the need for limited government? After all I do not want some know nothing democrat or republican affecting my life…[/quote]
I’ve only noticed one poster making references to republicans being dumber than democrats, so the “you guys” is a gross generalization.
And the false equivilence you’ve made between the birthers and 911truthers is simply not credible. This morning’s news brought polling results showing only 38% of Republicans believe Obama was born in the US. The 911truthers never had ANY traction, among democrats or others. Not a single elected federal politician gave it the time of day, unless they were assailing it. The press barely did. The 911truth thing was seen by most as unquestionable stupidity. The birther thing, not so much among Republicans.
They do it too fails miserably.[/quote]
You should do some research on the issue.
jstoeszParticipantHonestly, I really don’t care. I was not trying to wade into the morality of the issue. I was not trying to cast stones or label who threw the first. I don’t care. But this issue that you all are having is not going to go away if we all agreed on homosexual curriculum. There will always be another issue to educate someone else’s kids about. Some other state of federal mandate for some other tertiary or even core issue. The real difference, the more basic disagreement, is one of control. How much do we want the federal or state government to politicize our child’s education? The very same people who were railing against Intelligent Design (no I do not wish to open this can of worms either) as not fit for schools are now in favor of gay sensitivity training. Their position has changed because the subject matter has changed.
If you can not admit that you want to teach other people’s kids your own worldview, then this discussion is pointless. The corollary here is that you also want to drown out other people’s world views in the process. This is absurd, and this game will never end. If you want the government to have this level of control, one day you will find yourself in the minority, with your tax dollars getting siphoned off in huge amounts to support things you find offensive. And that too is wrong!
jstoeszParticipantHonestly, I really don’t care. I was not trying to wade into the morality of the issue. I was not trying to cast stones or label who threw the first. I don’t care. But this issue that you all are having is not going to go away if we all agreed on homosexual curriculum. There will always be another issue to educate someone else’s kids about. Some other state of federal mandate for some other tertiary or even core issue. The real difference, the more basic disagreement, is one of control. How much do we want the federal or state government to politicize our child’s education? The very same people who were railing against Intelligent Design (no I do not wish to open this can of worms either) as not fit for schools are now in favor of gay sensitivity training. Their position has changed because the subject matter has changed.
If you can not admit that you want to teach other people’s kids your own worldview, then this discussion is pointless. The corollary here is that you also want to drown out other people’s world views in the process. This is absurd, and this game will never end. If you want the government to have this level of control, one day you will find yourself in the minority, with your tax dollars getting siphoned off in huge amounts to support things you find offensive. And that too is wrong!
jstoeszParticipantHonestly, I really don’t care. I was not trying to wade into the morality of the issue. I was not trying to cast stones or label who threw the first. I don’t care. But this issue that you all are having is not going to go away if we all agreed on homosexual curriculum. There will always be another issue to educate someone else’s kids about. Some other state of federal mandate for some other tertiary or even core issue. The real difference, the more basic disagreement, is one of control. How much do we want the federal or state government to politicize our child’s education? The very same people who were railing against Intelligent Design (no I do not wish to open this can of worms either) as not fit for schools are now in favor of gay sensitivity training. Their position has changed because the subject matter has changed.
If you can not admit that you want to teach other people’s kids your own worldview, then this discussion is pointless. The corollary here is that you also want to drown out other people’s world views in the process. This is absurd, and this game will never end. If you want the government to have this level of control, one day you will find yourself in the minority, with your tax dollars getting siphoned off in huge amounts to support things you find offensive. And that too is wrong!
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