[jstoesz]

This topic has lost all substance and has denigrated into a circular shouting match. There is no way you are going to convince CAR or jp or the rest that the public sector is overcompensated. It is just not going to happen. And like wise, not in a million years are you going to convince the rest of us, that these folks are underpaid civil servants acting out of a need to help their fellow man.

I do tend to wonder if that old saw applies to even this topic (on both sides of the argument I might add)…

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

Maybe I am unfairly impugning others motives…

[jstoesz]

This topic has lost all substance and has denigrated into a circular shouting match. There is no way you are going to convince CAR or jp or the rest that the public sector is overcompensated. It is just not going to happen. And like wise, not in a million years are you going to convince the rest of us, that these folks are underpaid civil servants acting out of a need to help their fellow man.

I do tend to wonder if that old saw applies to even this topic (on both sides of the argument I might add)…

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

Maybe I am unfairly impugning others motives…

[jstoesz]

To be honest, I have been contemplating for years getting out of this crap hole of engineering and becoming a firehouse medic, or fireman. I just can not summon the courage to throw my engineering degree away. Getting locked into a career path can be so crippling.

I just think to myself, I could be making almost as much (with overtime of coarse) as I make now, and still be able to take off the random week here and there. I would never have to go blind staring at a computer screen again! Plus I get disability for any minor injury I incur, for as long as I am “down.”

CAR, I think you are pushing me over the edge. Maybe I will try and climb aboard the gravy train like so many of my friends. Hopefully I will not be heading for the last stop…

I am at least somewhat serious here. I looks like a really great job.

[jstoesz]

To be honest, I have been contemplating for years getting out of this crap hole of engineering and becoming a firehouse medic, or fireman. I just can not summon the courage to throw my engineering degree away. Getting locked into a career path can be so crippling.

I just think to myself, I could be making almost as much (with overtime of coarse) as I make now, and still be able to take off the random week here and there. I would never have to go blind staring at a computer screen again! Plus I get disability for any minor injury I incur, for as long as I am “down.”

CAR, I think you are pushing me over the edge. Maybe I will try and climb aboard the gravy train like so many of my friends. Hopefully I will not be heading for the last stop…

I am at least somewhat serious here. I looks like a really great job.

[jstoesz]

To be honest, I have been contemplating for years getting out of this crap hole of engineering and becoming a firehouse medic, or fireman. I just can not summon the courage to throw my engineering degree away. Getting locked into a career path can be so crippling.

I just think to myself, I could be making almost as much (with overtime of coarse) as I make now, and still be able to take off the random week here and there. I would never have to go blind staring at a computer screen again! Plus I get disability for any minor injury I incur, for as long as I am “down.”

CAR, I think you are pushing me over the edge. Maybe I will try and climb aboard the gravy train like so many of my friends. Hopefully I will not be heading for the last stop…

I am at least somewhat serious here. I looks like a really great job.

[jstoesz]

To be honest, I have been contemplating for years getting out of this crap hole of engineering and becoming a firehouse medic, or fireman. I just can not summon the courage to throw my engineering degree away. Getting locked into a career path can be so crippling.

I just think to myself, I could be making almost as much (with overtime of coarse) as I make now, and still be able to take off the random week here and there. I would never have to go blind staring at a computer screen again! Plus I get disability for any minor injury I incur, for as long as I am “down.”

CAR, I think you are pushing me over the edge. Maybe I will try and climb aboard the gravy train like so many of my friends. Hopefully I will not be heading for the last stop…

I am at least somewhat serious here. I looks like a really great job.

[jstoesz]

To be honest, I have been contemplating for years getting out of this crap hole of engineering and becoming a firehouse medic, or fireman. I just can not summon the courage to throw my engineering degree away. Getting locked into a career path can be so crippling.

I just think to myself, I could be making almost as much (with overtime of coarse) as I make now, and still be able to take off the random week here and there. I would never have to go blind staring at a computer screen again! Plus I get disability for any minor injury I incur, for as long as I am “down.”

CAR, I think you are pushing me over the edge. Maybe I will try and climb aboard the gravy train like so many of my friends. Hopefully I will not be heading for the last stop…

I am at least somewhat serious here. I looks like a really great job.

[jstoesz]

[quote]There’s no shame in admitting that you can’t succeed in a regulatory environment…[/quote]

Implicit in your statement is that regulations can harm business. You have just admitted our point. That regulation does stifle (some) business. Now the only question is, is that regulation worth it.

I am just going to savor that victory for a moment, before we all delve into whether it is worth it.

For the record, some of your favorite companies (I am just assuming) are in fact growing jobs outside of California. It seems our high electricity cost are rather prohibitive for even the IT industry…

Too Big To Fail: Facebook Begins Building Its Own Data Center In Oregon

[jstoesz]

[quote]There’s no shame in admitting that you can’t succeed in a regulatory environment…[/quote]

Implicit in your statement is that regulations can harm business. You have just admitted our point. That regulation does stifle (some) business. Now the only question is, is that regulation worth it.

I am just going to savor that victory for a moment, before we all delve into whether it is worth it.

For the record, some of your favorite companies (I am just assuming) are in fact growing jobs outside of California. It seems our high electricity cost are rather prohibitive for even the IT industry…

Too Big To Fail: Facebook Begins Building Its Own Data Center In Oregon

[jstoesz]

[quote]There’s no shame in admitting that you can’t succeed in a regulatory environment…[/quote]

Implicit in your statement is that regulations can harm business. You have just admitted our point. That regulation does stifle (some) business. Now the only question is, is that regulation worth it.

I am just going to savor that victory for a moment, before we all delve into whether it is worth it.

For the record, some of your favorite companies (I am just assuming) are in fact growing jobs outside of California. It seems our high electricity cost are rather prohibitive for even the IT industry…

Too Big To Fail: Facebook Begins Building Its Own Data Center In Oregon

[jstoesz]

[quote]There’s no shame in admitting that you can’t succeed in a regulatory environment…[/quote]

Implicit in your statement is that regulations can harm business. You have just admitted our point. That regulation does stifle (some) business. Now the only question is, is that regulation worth it.

I am just going to savor that victory for a moment, before we all delve into whether it is worth it.

For the record, some of your favorite companies (I am just assuming) are in fact growing jobs outside of California. It seems our high electricity cost are rather prohibitive for even the IT industry…

Too Big To Fail: Facebook Begins Building Its Own Data Center In Oregon

[jstoesz]

[quote]There’s no shame in admitting that you can’t succeed in a regulatory environment…[/quote]

Implicit in your statement is that regulations can harm business. You have just admitted our point. That regulation does stifle (some) business. Now the only question is, is that regulation worth it.

I am just going to savor that victory for a moment, before we all delve into whether it is worth it.

For the record, some of your favorite companies (I am just assuming) are in fact growing jobs outside of California. It seems our high electricity cost are rather prohibitive for even the IT industry…

Too Big To Fail: Facebook Begins Building Its Own Data Center In Oregon

[jstoesz]

[quote]I suspect it is because you are a failure…[/quote]

Can we all just stand aghast at this statement for a second?

BGIG, out of curiosity what do your business(s) do?

[jstoesz]

[quote]I suspect it is because you are a failure…[/quote]

Can we all just stand aghast at this statement for a second?

BGIG, out of curiosity what do your business(s) do?

[jstoesz]

[quote]I suspect it is because you are a failure…[/quote]

Can we all just stand aghast at this statement for a second?

BGIG, out of curiosity what do your business(s) do?

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