[jstoesz]

From what I have seen there is a net + emigration from California vs domestic immigration. The only reason our population goes up is from foreign immigrants.

There a countless structural reasons why you can not move a company from California once it is established. But companies will choose to open their next data center, or their next restaurant, or their next consulting firm somewhere else. Once you have employees, you can not ship all of their jobs somewhere else directly. You can choose where you reinvest your profits and it is increasingly not here. See our unemployment rate vs. the national average if you have any more doubts.

[jstoesz]

From what I have seen there is a net + emigration from California vs domestic immigration. The only reason our population goes up is from foreign immigrants.

There a countless structural reasons why you can not move a company from California once it is established. But companies will choose to open their next data center, or their next restaurant, or their next consulting firm somewhere else. Once you have employees, you can not ship all of their jobs somewhere else directly. You can choose where you reinvest your profits and it is increasingly not here. See our unemployment rate vs. the national average if you have any more doubts.

[jstoesz]

So does this make your pro states rights af? Shall we return to the constitutional model of strict enumerated powers for the Federal Government?

[jstoesz]

So does this make your pro states rights af? Shall we return to the constitutional model of strict enumerated powers for the Federal Government?

[jstoesz]

So does this make your pro states rights af? Shall we return to the constitutional model of strict enumerated powers for the Federal Government?

[jstoesz]

So does this make your pro states rights af? Shall we return to the constitutional model of strict enumerated powers for the Federal Government?

[jstoesz]

So does this make your pro states rights af? Shall we return to the constitutional model of strict enumerated powers for the Federal Government?

[jstoesz]

[quote=afx114]Why do the simpleton ranchers get to have the monopoly on what “real life” is like? Maybe they should leave their comfortable ranches and come see how us city folk live from time to time.

Perhaps Allan hasn’t seen some professors ever leave La Jolla, and while I agree that that’s a bad thing, I’ve certainly never seen an Iowa corn farmer hanging out in downtown either.[/quote]

af,

That is the beauty of strong states and a weak fed. If you live in a NY condo, you shouldn’t have to worry about what some stupid hick from Idaho thinks about something. There is little need for compromise, because one has little influence on the other.

[jstoesz]

[quote=afx114]Why do the simpleton ranchers get to have the monopoly on what “real life” is like? Maybe they should leave their comfortable ranches and come see how us city folk live from time to time.

Perhaps Allan hasn’t seen some professors ever leave La Jolla, and while I agree that that’s a bad thing, I’ve certainly never seen an Iowa corn farmer hanging out in downtown either.[/quote]

af,

That is the beauty of strong states and a weak fed. If you live in a NY condo, you shouldn’t have to worry about what some stupid hick from Idaho thinks about something. There is little need for compromise, because one has little influence on the other.

[jstoesz]

[quote=afx114]Why do the simpleton ranchers get to have the monopoly on what “real life” is like? Maybe they should leave their comfortable ranches and come see how us city folk live from time to time.

Perhaps Allan hasn’t seen some professors ever leave La Jolla, and while I agree that that’s a bad thing, I’ve certainly never seen an Iowa corn farmer hanging out in downtown either.[/quote]

af,

That is the beauty of strong states and a weak fed. If you live in a NY condo, you shouldn’t have to worry about what some stupid hick from Idaho thinks about something. There is little need for compromise, because one has little influence on the other.

[jstoesz]

[quote=afx114]Why do the simpleton ranchers get to have the monopoly on what “real life” is like? Maybe they should leave their comfortable ranches and come see how us city folk live from time to time.

Perhaps Allan hasn’t seen some professors ever leave La Jolla, and while I agree that that’s a bad thing, I’ve certainly never seen an Iowa corn farmer hanging out in downtown either.[/quote]

af,

That is the beauty of strong states and a weak fed. If you live in a NY condo, you shouldn’t have to worry about what some stupid hick from Idaho thinks about something. There is little need for compromise, because one has little influence on the other.

[jstoesz]

[quote=afx114]Why do the simpleton ranchers get to have the monopoly on what “real life” is like? Maybe they should leave their comfortable ranches and come see how us city folk live from time to time.

Perhaps Allan hasn’t seen some professors ever leave La Jolla, and while I agree that that’s a bad thing, I’ve certainly never seen an Iowa corn farmer hanging out in downtown either.[/quote]

af,

That is the beauty of strong states and a weak fed. If you live in a NY condo, you shouldn’t have to worry about what some stupid hick from Idaho thinks about something. There is little need for compromise, because one has little influence on the other.

[jstoesz]

haha…not my favorite person in the world. But if you have read anything about Mark Dayton (likely next governor), you might think Bachmann was a hallmark of sanity. Minnesotans are horrible voters (see Jesse the Body Ventura), but they sure as hell are no worse than California. I am not trying to leave for the politics…I am trying to leave because of the pervasive values. The lack of responsibility and rampant materialism that is so ubiquitous in Southern California chiefly is the reason for my dislike of it here.

It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive.

pri_dk, I do love the outdoors dearly, and it is one of the other reasons I do not want to go to MN too soon. I can not wait for the proximity to my favorite place on earth, the sierras. They are what brought me here, and they are the last thing keeping me here.

[jstoesz]

haha…not my favorite person in the world. But if you have read anything about Mark Dayton (likely next governor), you might think Bachmann was a hallmark of sanity. Minnesotans are horrible voters (see Jesse the Body Ventura), but they sure as hell are no worse than California. I am not trying to leave for the politics…I am trying to leave because of the pervasive values. The lack of responsibility and rampant materialism that is so ubiquitous in Southern California chiefly is the reason for my dislike of it here.

It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive.

pri_dk, I do love the outdoors dearly, and it is one of the other reasons I do not want to go to MN too soon. I can not wait for the proximity to my favorite place on earth, the sierras. They are what brought me here, and they are the last thing keeping me here.

[jstoesz]

haha…not my favorite person in the world. But if you have read anything about Mark Dayton (likely next governor), you might think Bachmann was a hallmark of sanity. Minnesotans are horrible voters (see Jesse the Body Ventura), but they sure as hell are no worse than California. I am not trying to leave for the politics…I am trying to leave because of the pervasive values. The lack of responsibility and rampant materialism that is so ubiquitous in Southern California chiefly is the reason for my dislike of it here.

It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive.

pri_dk, I do love the outdoors dearly, and it is one of the other reasons I do not want to go to MN too soon. I can not wait for the proximity to my favorite place on earth, the sierras. They are what brought me here, and they are the last thing keeping me here.

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