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jstoesz
ParticipantThank you all for your kind words. You are good bunch…
bearishgirl, you asked why we do not stay up there.
Ultimately, the answer is because we do not have family up there. My wife’s and my family are both amazing, and we want involved Grandparents. But if I were master of the universe we would move the whole lot to lake tahoe (or SLO) and I would only be cognizant of my after tax income. But sadly I am not master of the universe.
So when it comes to to really settling and putting down deep roots, SD (because we hate OC even more) or Minneapolis are our only really viable choices.
To the materialism thing. I think their is a big difference with MN’s and the cabins, and CA and their houses and cars and boats and clothes.
You have a hard time finding a new BMW or Mercedes in MN, even people who can afford them are embarrassed by their money and are not in a hurry to flaunt it. Not that there is anything wrong with either car (not my thing, but in MN it is a source of embarrassment). I remember in school we would call kids who were higher in the socio-economic ladder “rich” and they would vehemently deny it. There was no, my dad makes more than your dad shenanigans.
Cabins are something families have and are passed down from generations. Most of my friends had cabins that their grandparents gave them. As long as you pay the taxes your family keeps the cabin.
I agree with you all about letting the materialism roll off your back, it doesn’t bother me much. I drive a beat honda and wear clothes till they have holes. It can get in my wife head from time to time, and I am terrified of what it could do to a child.
ParticipantSorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.
But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.
ParticipantSorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.
But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.
ParticipantSorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.
But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.
ParticipantSorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.
But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.
ParticipantSorry Allan, Hockey is way more entertaining. The difference is, Hockey blows on TV and blows your mind in person. Football blows in person, and blows your mind on TV.
But I haven’t watched either in years. You have to have some pretty impressive Cable to watch the Wild or the Gophers. And the Vikings…what can you say about those retards. We just can’t seem to hire has been quarterbacks and pin brained receivers. At least we fired one of the two.
Participant[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive. [/quote]
I think people say that every 25 years or so.
Think about what has happened in CA in the past 25 years. Back in 1985, Intel was a small company, Cisco Systems didn’t even exist (or perhaps just started), the Apple II was a toy.
And then there is biotech…
CA is doing just fine.
But I agree about the materialism, and the Sierras. Idyllwild is not far for me. It’s like a little Yosemite.[/quote]
I think your comment about the last 25 years is likely valid. I said 25 years, because California did not used to be so expensive. 25 years ago it was an affordable place with a high standard if not higher than the rest of the country. This does not seem to be still the case.
BTW I love Idyllwild, its no yosemite, my wife and I BC ski Mt. Jean and San Jacinto every time it snows. Mt. Baldy and San Gorgonio are also really great underutilized recreational destinations in S. California.
Participant[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive. [/quote]
I think people say that every 25 years or so.
Think about what has happened in CA in the past 25 years. Back in 1985, Intel was a small company, Cisco Systems didn’t even exist (or perhaps just started), the Apple II was a toy.
And then there is biotech…
CA is doing just fine.
But I agree about the materialism, and the Sierras. Idyllwild is not far for me. It’s like a little Yosemite.[/quote]
I think your comment about the last 25 years is likely valid. I said 25 years, because California did not used to be so expensive. 25 years ago it was an affordable place with a high standard if not higher than the rest of the country. This does not seem to be still the case.
BTW I love Idyllwild, its no yosemite, my wife and I BC ski Mt. Jean and San Jacinto every time it snows. Mt. Baldy and San Gorgonio are also really great underutilized recreational destinations in S. California.
Participant[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive. [/quote]
I think people say that every 25 years or so.
Think about what has happened in CA in the past 25 years. Back in 1985, Intel was a small company, Cisco Systems didn’t even exist (or perhaps just started), the Apple II was a toy.
And then there is biotech…
CA is doing just fine.
But I agree about the materialism, and the Sierras. Idyllwild is not far for me. It’s like a little Yosemite.[/quote]
I think your comment about the last 25 years is likely valid. I said 25 years, because California did not used to be so expensive. 25 years ago it was an affordable place with a high standard if not higher than the rest of the country. This does not seem to be still the case.
BTW I love Idyllwild, its no yosemite, my wife and I BC ski Mt. Jean and San Jacinto every time it snows. Mt. Baldy and San Gorgonio are also really great underutilized recreational destinations in S. California.
Participant[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive. [/quote]
I think people say that every 25 years or so.
Think about what has happened in CA in the past 25 years. Back in 1985, Intel was a small company, Cisco Systems didn’t even exist (or perhaps just started), the Apple II was a toy.
And then there is biotech…
CA is doing just fine.
But I agree about the materialism, and the Sierras. Idyllwild is not far for me. It’s like a little Yosemite.[/quote]
I think your comment about the last 25 years is likely valid. I said 25 years, because California did not used to be so expensive. 25 years ago it was an affordable place with a high standard if not higher than the rest of the country. This does not seem to be still the case.
BTW I love Idyllwild, its no yosemite, my wife and I BC ski Mt. Jean and San Jacinto every time it snows. Mt. Baldy and San Gorgonio are also really great underutilized recreational destinations in S. California.
Participant[quote=pri_dk][quote=jstoesz]It is not the 150 years of California history that I am decrying, it is what has happened to it in the last 25 years that is so offensive. [/quote]
I think people say that every 25 years or so.
Think about what has happened in CA in the past 25 years. Back in 1985, Intel was a small company, Cisco Systems didn’t even exist (or perhaps just started), the Apple II was a toy.
And then there is biotech…
CA is doing just fine.
But I agree about the materialism, and the Sierras. Idyllwild is not far for me. It’s like a little Yosemite.[/quote]
I think your comment about the last 25 years is likely valid. I said 25 years, because California did not used to be so expensive. 25 years ago it was an affordable place with a high standard if not higher than the rest of the country. This does not seem to be still the case.
BTW I love Idyllwild, its no yosemite, my wife and I BC ski Mt. Jean and San Jacinto every time it snows. Mt. Baldy and San Gorgonio are also really great underutilized recreational destinations in S. California.
ParticipantFrom what I have seen there is a net + emigration from California vs domestic immigration. The only reason our population goes up is from foreign immigrants.
There a countless structural reasons why you can not move a company from California once it is established. But companies will choose to open their next data center, or their next restaurant, or their next consulting firm somewhere else. Once you have employees, you can not ship all of their jobs somewhere else directly. You can choose where you reinvest your profits and it is increasingly not here. See our unemployment rate vs. the national average if you have any more doubts.
ParticipantFrom what I have seen there is a net + emigration from California vs domestic immigration. The only reason our population goes up is from foreign immigrants.
There a countless structural reasons why you can not move a company from California once it is established. But companies will choose to open their next data center, or their next restaurant, or their next consulting firm somewhere else. Once you have employees, you can not ship all of their jobs somewhere else directly. You can choose where you reinvest your profits and it is increasingly not here. See our unemployment rate vs. the national average if you have any more doubts.
ParticipantFrom what I have seen there is a net + emigration from California vs domestic immigration. The only reason our population goes up is from foreign immigrants.
There a countless structural reasons why you can not move a company from California once it is established. But companies will choose to open their next data center, or their next restaurant, or their next consulting firm somewhere else. Once you have employees, you can not ship all of their jobs somewhere else directly. You can choose where you reinvest your profits and it is increasingly not here. See our unemployment rate vs. the national average if you have any more doubts.
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