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Why are many upset with the government funding NPR’s reporting and coverage? The following NPR correspondents reporting on the Tuscon shooting of a Congresswoman may explain why many believe they should no longer receive government funding.
Hit the listen link to hear her narrate the story.
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/12/132865098/in-tucson-a-sigh-of-relief-from-latino-community
Across America, Latino Community Sighs With Relief
I wasn’t the only person on Saturday who rushed to her Android when news came of the Tucson shooting. I wasn’t looking however to read about what had happened. My auntie had already filled me in — “Someone tried to murder una representante. People have been killed,” she’d reported. What I wanted to know was the killer’s surname.
My eyes scanned the mobile papers. I held my breath. Finally, I saw it: Jared Loughner. Not a Ramirez, Gonzalez or Garcia.
It’s safe to say there was a collective sigh of brown relief when the Tucson killer turned out to be a gringo. Had the shooter been Latino, media pundits wouldn’t be discussing the impact of nasty politics on a young man this week — they’d be demanding an even more stringent anti-immigrant policy. The new members of the House would be stepping over each other to propose new legislation for more guns on the border, more mothers to be deported, and more employers to be penalized for hiring brown people. Obama would be attending funerals and telling the nation tonight that he was going to increase security just about everywhere.
In short, the only reason the nation is taking a few days to reflect on the animosity in politics today is precisely that the shooter was not Latino.
It’s painfully ironic that a gay Latino man came to the aid of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in the storm of gunfire. Daniel Hernandez, an intern with the congresswoman, ran to Rep. Giffords and helped to stop the bleeding. If a judge hadn’t blocked provisions of Arizona’s SB 1070 law, the intern’s surname would have easily qualified him as a target for police under different circumstances on Saturday. As Sheriff Clarence Dupnik of Pima County, Ariz., told reporters: “The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous, and unfortunately Arizona has become sort of the capital.”
I admit sadly that it was only after I saw the shooter’s gringo surname that I was able to go on and read the rest of the news about those who lost their lives on Saturday and those who, like Rep. Giffords, were severely wounded. I admit also that I felt some small relief in knowing that at least this shooting wouldn’t be used as a reason for yet another backlash against immigrants, or at least that’s what I’m hoping. In this political climate, it’s hard to tell.
Jim JonesParticipantWhy are many upset with the government funding NPR’s reporting and coverage? The following NPR correspondents reporting on the Tuscon shooting of a Congresswoman may explain why many believe they should no longer receive government funding.
Hit the listen link to hear her narrate the story.
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/12/132865098/in-tucson-a-sigh-of-relief-from-latino-community
Across America, Latino Community Sighs With Relief
I wasn’t the only person on Saturday who rushed to her Android when news came of the Tucson shooting. I wasn’t looking however to read about what had happened. My auntie had already filled me in — “Someone tried to murder una representante. People have been killed,” she’d reported. What I wanted to know was the killer’s surname.
My eyes scanned the mobile papers. I held my breath. Finally, I saw it: Jared Loughner. Not a Ramirez, Gonzalez or Garcia.
It’s safe to say there was a collective sigh of brown relief when the Tucson killer turned out to be a gringo. Had the shooter been Latino, media pundits wouldn’t be discussing the impact of nasty politics on a young man this week — they’d be demanding an even more stringent anti-immigrant policy. The new members of the House would be stepping over each other to propose new legislation for more guns on the border, more mothers to be deported, and more employers to be penalized for hiring brown people. Obama would be attending funerals and telling the nation tonight that he was going to increase security just about everywhere.
In short, the only reason the nation is taking a few days to reflect on the animosity in politics today is precisely that the shooter was not Latino.
It’s painfully ironic that a gay Latino man came to the aid of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in the storm of gunfire. Daniel Hernandez, an intern with the congresswoman, ran to Rep. Giffords and helped to stop the bleeding. If a judge hadn’t blocked provisions of Arizona’s SB 1070 law, the intern’s surname would have easily qualified him as a target for police under different circumstances on Saturday. As Sheriff Clarence Dupnik of Pima County, Ariz., told reporters: “The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous, and unfortunately Arizona has become sort of the capital.”
I admit sadly that it was only after I saw the shooter’s gringo surname that I was able to go on and read the rest of the news about those who lost their lives on Saturday and those who, like Rep. Giffords, were severely wounded. I admit also that I felt some small relief in knowing that at least this shooting wouldn’t be used as a reason for yet another backlash against immigrants, or at least that’s what I’m hoping. In this political climate, it’s hard to tell.
Jim JonesParticipantWhy are many upset with the government funding NPR’s reporting and coverage? The following NPR correspondents reporting on the Tuscon shooting of a Congresswoman may explain why many believe they should no longer receive government funding.
Hit the listen link to hear her narrate the story.
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/12/132865098/in-tucson-a-sigh-of-relief-from-latino-community
Across America, Latino Community Sighs With Relief
I wasn’t the only person on Saturday who rushed to her Android when news came of the Tucson shooting. I wasn’t looking however to read about what had happened. My auntie had already filled me in — “Someone tried to murder una representante. People have been killed,” she’d reported. What I wanted to know was the killer’s surname.
My eyes scanned the mobile papers. I held my breath. Finally, I saw it: Jared Loughner. Not a Ramirez, Gonzalez or Garcia.
It’s safe to say there was a collective sigh of brown relief when the Tucson killer turned out to be a gringo. Had the shooter been Latino, media pundits wouldn’t be discussing the impact of nasty politics on a young man this week — they’d be demanding an even more stringent anti-immigrant policy. The new members of the House would be stepping over each other to propose new legislation for more guns on the border, more mothers to be deported, and more employers to be penalized for hiring brown people. Obama would be attending funerals and telling the nation tonight that he was going to increase security just about everywhere.
In short, the only reason the nation is taking a few days to reflect on the animosity in politics today is precisely that the shooter was not Latino.
It’s painfully ironic that a gay Latino man came to the aid of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in the storm of gunfire. Daniel Hernandez, an intern with the congresswoman, ran to Rep. Giffords and helped to stop the bleeding. If a judge hadn’t blocked provisions of Arizona’s SB 1070 law, the intern’s surname would have easily qualified him as a target for police under different circumstances on Saturday. As Sheriff Clarence Dupnik of Pima County, Ariz., told reporters: “The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous, and unfortunately Arizona has become sort of the capital.”
I admit sadly that it was only after I saw the shooter’s gringo surname that I was able to go on and read the rest of the news about those who lost their lives on Saturday and those who, like Rep. Giffords, were severely wounded. I admit also that I felt some small relief in knowing that at least this shooting wouldn’t be used as a reason for yet another backlash against immigrants, or at least that’s what I’m hoping. In this political climate, it’s hard to tell.
Jim JonesParticipantWhy are many upset with the government funding NPR’s reporting and coverage? The following NPR correspondents reporting on the Tuscon shooting of a Congresswoman may explain why many believe they should no longer receive government funding.
Hit the listen link to hear her narrate the story.
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/12/132865098/in-tucson-a-sigh-of-relief-from-latino-community
Across America, Latino Community Sighs With Relief
I wasn’t the only person on Saturday who rushed to her Android when news came of the Tucson shooting. I wasn’t looking however to read about what had happened. My auntie had already filled me in — “Someone tried to murder una representante. People have been killed,” she’d reported. What I wanted to know was the killer’s surname.
My eyes scanned the mobile papers. I held my breath. Finally, I saw it: Jared Loughner. Not a Ramirez, Gonzalez or Garcia.
It’s safe to say there was a collective sigh of brown relief when the Tucson killer turned out to be a gringo. Had the shooter been Latino, media pundits wouldn’t be discussing the impact of nasty politics on a young man this week — they’d be demanding an even more stringent anti-immigrant policy. The new members of the House would be stepping over each other to propose new legislation for more guns on the border, more mothers to be deported, and more employers to be penalized for hiring brown people. Obama would be attending funerals and telling the nation tonight that he was going to increase security just about everywhere.
In short, the only reason the nation is taking a few days to reflect on the animosity in politics today is precisely that the shooter was not Latino.
It’s painfully ironic that a gay Latino man came to the aid of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in the storm of gunfire. Daniel Hernandez, an intern with the congresswoman, ran to Rep. Giffords and helped to stop the bleeding. If a judge hadn’t blocked provisions of Arizona’s SB 1070 law, the intern’s surname would have easily qualified him as a target for police under different circumstances on Saturday. As Sheriff Clarence Dupnik of Pima County, Ariz., told reporters: “The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous, and unfortunately Arizona has become sort of the capital.”
I admit sadly that it was only after I saw the shooter’s gringo surname that I was able to go on and read the rest of the news about those who lost their lives on Saturday and those who, like Rep. Giffords, were severely wounded. I admit also that I felt some small relief in knowing that at least this shooting wouldn’t be used as a reason for yet another backlash against immigrants, or at least that’s what I’m hoping. In this political climate, it’s hard to tell.
Jim JonesParticipantWhy are many upset with the government funding NPR’s reporting and coverage? The following NPR correspondents reporting on the Tuscon shooting of a Congresswoman may explain why many believe they should no longer receive government funding.
Hit the listen link to hear her narrate the story.
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/12/132865098/in-tucson-a-sigh-of-relief-from-latino-community
Across America, Latino Community Sighs With Relief
I wasn’t the only person on Saturday who rushed to her Android when news came of the Tucson shooting. I wasn’t looking however to read about what had happened. My auntie had already filled me in — “Someone tried to murder una representante. People have been killed,” she’d reported. What I wanted to know was the killer’s surname.
My eyes scanned the mobile papers. I held my breath. Finally, I saw it: Jared Loughner. Not a Ramirez, Gonzalez or Garcia.
It’s safe to say there was a collective sigh of brown relief when the Tucson killer turned out to be a gringo. Had the shooter been Latino, media pundits wouldn’t be discussing the impact of nasty politics on a young man this week — they’d be demanding an even more stringent anti-immigrant policy. The new members of the House would be stepping over each other to propose new legislation for more guns on the border, more mothers to be deported, and more employers to be penalized for hiring brown people. Obama would be attending funerals and telling the nation tonight that he was going to increase security just about everywhere.
In short, the only reason the nation is taking a few days to reflect on the animosity in politics today is precisely that the shooter was not Latino.
It’s painfully ironic that a gay Latino man came to the aid of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in the storm of gunfire. Daniel Hernandez, an intern with the congresswoman, ran to Rep. Giffords and helped to stop the bleeding. If a judge hadn’t blocked provisions of Arizona’s SB 1070 law, the intern’s surname would have easily qualified him as a target for police under different circumstances on Saturday. As Sheriff Clarence Dupnik of Pima County, Ariz., told reporters: “The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous, and unfortunately Arizona has become sort of the capital.”
I admit sadly that it was only after I saw the shooter’s gringo surname that I was able to go on and read the rest of the news about those who lost their lives on Saturday and those who, like Rep. Giffords, were severely wounded. I admit also that I felt some small relief in knowing that at least this shooting wouldn’t be used as a reason for yet another backlash against immigrants, or at least that’s what I’m hoping. In this political climate, it’s hard to tell.
Jim JonesParticipant[quote=meadandale][quote=Diego Mamani]It certainly takes a tea party sympathizer, anti-immigrant type to misspell “illegals.” What country is the OP from?
According to the law of the land, only the Federal government has jurisdiction over immigration matters. The bigoted Arizona law may be popular with the majority now, but that doesn’t make it constitutional. (The National Socialist party in Germany was very popular with the majority in the 1930s, but they were still on the wrong side of history.)[/quote]
According to Godwin’s Law…you fail.[/quote]
I am not so sure Godwin thought his proof would show up so early in what should be a rational discussion.
Jim JonesParticipant[quote=meadandale][quote=Diego Mamani]It certainly takes a tea party sympathizer, anti-immigrant type to misspell “illegals.” What country is the OP from?
According to the law of the land, only the Federal government has jurisdiction over immigration matters. The bigoted Arizona law may be popular with the majority now, but that doesn’t make it constitutional. (The National Socialist party in Germany was very popular with the majority in the 1930s, but they were still on the wrong side of history.)[/quote]
According to Godwin’s Law…you fail.[/quote]
I am not so sure Godwin thought his proof would show up so early in what should be a rational discussion.
Jim JonesParticipant[quote=meadandale][quote=Diego Mamani]It certainly takes a tea party sympathizer, anti-immigrant type to misspell “illegals.” What country is the OP from?
According to the law of the land, only the Federal government has jurisdiction over immigration matters. The bigoted Arizona law may be popular with the majority now, but that doesn’t make it constitutional. (The National Socialist party in Germany was very popular with the majority in the 1930s, but they were still on the wrong side of history.)[/quote]
According to Godwin’s Law…you fail.[/quote]
I am not so sure Godwin thought his proof would show up so early in what should be a rational discussion.
Jim JonesParticipant[quote=meadandale][quote=Diego Mamani]It certainly takes a tea party sympathizer, anti-immigrant type to misspell “illegals.” What country is the OP from?
According to the law of the land, only the Federal government has jurisdiction over immigration matters. The bigoted Arizona law may be popular with the majority now, but that doesn’t make it constitutional. (The National Socialist party in Germany was very popular with the majority in the 1930s, but they were still on the wrong side of history.)[/quote]
According to Godwin’s Law…you fail.[/quote]
I am not so sure Godwin thought his proof would show up so early in what should be a rational discussion.
Jim JonesParticipant[quote=meadandale][quote=Diego Mamani]It certainly takes a tea party sympathizer, anti-immigrant type to misspell “illegals.” What country is the OP from?
According to the law of the land, only the Federal government has jurisdiction over immigration matters. The bigoted Arizona law may be popular with the majority now, but that doesn’t make it constitutional. (The National Socialist party in Germany was very popular with the majority in the 1930s, but they were still on the wrong side of history.)[/quote]
According to Godwin’s Law…you fail.[/quote]
I am not so sure Godwin thought his proof would show up so early in what should be a rational discussion.
September 4, 2010 at 11:05 AM in reply to: OT: so this is what our soldiers are dying for in Afghanistan? #600318Jim JonesParticipant[quote=outtamojo][quote=Jim Jones][quote=outtamojo]Afghanistan’s dirty little secret http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/29/INF21F2Q9H.DTL
Cognitive dissonance at its finest- just to be clear, I have nothing against homosexuality, it’s the pedophilia and the treatment of women as sub-human there that irks me.[/quote]
Making a course correction, based on the the forums rules, is this not just another example of the difficulties in international and global ethical relativism in the modern era?
Are our values any more appropriate than theirs? Here is a good example. We continue to lambaste other counties about human smuggling and trafficking but choose not to end the same practice that is occurring on our own border. What is a crime overseas is considered a politically acceptable form of migration here. The example given from Afghanistan is no different regardless of how horrible I think it is.[/quote]
Academic arguments are nice but I don’t think I will be cutting off my daughter’s nose any time soon or throwing acid into classrooms that happen to have girls.[/quote]
I agree with you 100% but moderated my language in order not to be described as a crazy right winger.
September 4, 2010 at 11:05 AM in reply to: OT: so this is what our soldiers are dying for in Afghanistan? #600409Jim JonesParticipant[quote=outtamojo][quote=Jim Jones][quote=outtamojo]Afghanistan’s dirty little secret http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/29/INF21F2Q9H.DTL
Cognitive dissonance at its finest- just to be clear, I have nothing against homosexuality, it’s the pedophilia and the treatment of women as sub-human there that irks me.[/quote]
Making a course correction, based on the the forums rules, is this not just another example of the difficulties in international and global ethical relativism in the modern era?
Are our values any more appropriate than theirs? Here is a good example. We continue to lambaste other counties about human smuggling and trafficking but choose not to end the same practice that is occurring on our own border. What is a crime overseas is considered a politically acceptable form of migration here. The example given from Afghanistan is no different regardless of how horrible I think it is.[/quote]
Academic arguments are nice but I don’t think I will be cutting off my daughter’s nose any time soon or throwing acid into classrooms that happen to have girls.[/quote]
I agree with you 100% but moderated my language in order not to be described as a crazy right winger.
September 4, 2010 at 11:05 AM in reply to: OT: so this is what our soldiers are dying for in Afghanistan? #600956Jim JonesParticipant[quote=outtamojo][quote=Jim Jones][quote=outtamojo]Afghanistan’s dirty little secret http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/29/INF21F2Q9H.DTL
Cognitive dissonance at its finest- just to be clear, I have nothing against homosexuality, it’s the pedophilia and the treatment of women as sub-human there that irks me.[/quote]
Making a course correction, based on the the forums rules, is this not just another example of the difficulties in international and global ethical relativism in the modern era?
Are our values any more appropriate than theirs? Here is a good example. We continue to lambaste other counties about human smuggling and trafficking but choose not to end the same practice that is occurring on our own border. What is a crime overseas is considered a politically acceptable form of migration here. The example given from Afghanistan is no different regardless of how horrible I think it is.[/quote]
Academic arguments are nice but I don’t think I will be cutting off my daughter’s nose any time soon or throwing acid into classrooms that happen to have girls.[/quote]
I agree with you 100% but moderated my language in order not to be described as a crazy right winger.
September 4, 2010 at 11:05 AM in reply to: OT: so this is what our soldiers are dying for in Afghanistan? #601062Jim JonesParticipant[quote=outtamojo][quote=Jim Jones][quote=outtamojo]Afghanistan’s dirty little secret http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/29/INF21F2Q9H.DTL
Cognitive dissonance at its finest- just to be clear, I have nothing against homosexuality, it’s the pedophilia and the treatment of women as sub-human there that irks me.[/quote]
Making a course correction, based on the the forums rules, is this not just another example of the difficulties in international and global ethical relativism in the modern era?
Are our values any more appropriate than theirs? Here is a good example. We continue to lambaste other counties about human smuggling and trafficking but choose not to end the same practice that is occurring on our own border. What is a crime overseas is considered a politically acceptable form of migration here. The example given from Afghanistan is no different regardless of how horrible I think it is.[/quote]
Academic arguments are nice but I don’t think I will be cutting off my daughter’s nose any time soon or throwing acid into classrooms that happen to have girls.[/quote]
I agree with you 100% but moderated my language in order not to be described as a crazy right winger.
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