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[quote=afx114]Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?[/quote]

Naturalized citizen is not the same as a Natural Born citizen.

There are 3 choices. He is an illegal, a naturalized citizen or a natural born citizen.

I have no clue as to what he is however the natural born citizen is the only one that can be Prez.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=afx114]Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?[/quote]

Naturalized citizen is not the same as a Natural Born citizen.

There are 3 choices. He is an illegal, a naturalized citizen or a natural born citizen.

I have no clue as to what he is however the natural born citizen is the only one that can be Prez.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=afx114]Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?[/quote]

Naturalized citizen is not the same as a Natural Born citizen.

There are 3 choices. He is an illegal, a naturalized citizen or a natural born citizen.

I have no clue as to what he is however the natural born citizen is the only one that can be Prez.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=afx114]Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?[/quote]

Naturalized citizen is not the same as a Natural Born citizen.

There are 3 choices. He is an illegal, a naturalized citizen or a natural born citizen.

I have no clue as to what he is however the natural born citizen is the only one that can be Prez.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=afx114]Lets assume your claim that Obama is not a natural born citizen is true. It follows that he must either be:

a) A naturalized citizen
OR
b) An illegal alien

If a), he would be in the INS database as so.
Otherwise, he is b) An illegal alien.

Answer this simple question: Is Obama a naturalized citizen, or an illegal alien?[/quote]

Naturalized citizen is not the same as a Natural Born citizen.

There are 3 choices. He is an illegal, a naturalized citizen or a natural born citizen.

I have no clue as to what he is however the natural born citizen is the only one that can be Prez.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=SDEngineer][quote=arraya]Yes, I really did just bust out a Yoda quote to show how ridiculous they are.

A: I think McCain is a slightly bigger nightmere than Obama
B: The question I posed is valid.
C: I did not say it was fake. I stated the use of “African” to describe a black person was not commonly used if at all in 1961, therefore it is suspect.

Any google search on the political correctness movement can cite this. It’s well documented.

So again how was my question ridiculous? In what way?
[/quote]

So? Assuming that the hospital has upgraded their records to computer storage, it’s very likely they standardized the entries at the same time they did this. Nobody as far as I know is claiming that this is an ORIGINAL birth certificate from the 60’s, it’s a certified copy from hospital records (in fact, the copy I’ve seen on the web clearly isn’t, since it is clearly computer printed as opposed to hand-typed.)

It’s very likely that what happened is that the hospital when placing those records into the computer simply standardized on the currently PC choices, rather than have older records use different terminology for race.

I find this a more likely ad-hoc explanation than the alternative which implies a pretty massive conspiracy that has held up to decades of public service.

[/quote]

Decades of public service?? He has been in the Senate one term, served 4 years as a state legislator.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=SDEngineer][quote=arraya]Yes, I really did just bust out a Yoda quote to show how ridiculous they are.

A: I think McCain is a slightly bigger nightmere than Obama
B: The question I posed is valid.
C: I did not say it was fake. I stated the use of “African” to describe a black person was not commonly used if at all in 1961, therefore it is suspect.

Any google search on the political correctness movement can cite this. It’s well documented.

So again how was my question ridiculous? In what way?
[/quote]

So? Assuming that the hospital has upgraded their records to computer storage, it’s very likely they standardized the entries at the same time they did this. Nobody as far as I know is claiming that this is an ORIGINAL birth certificate from the 60’s, it’s a certified copy from hospital records (in fact, the copy I’ve seen on the web clearly isn’t, since it is clearly computer printed as opposed to hand-typed.)

It’s very likely that what happened is that the hospital when placing those records into the computer simply standardized on the currently PC choices, rather than have older records use different terminology for race.

I find this a more likely ad-hoc explanation than the alternative which implies a pretty massive conspiracy that has held up to decades of public service.

[/quote]

Decades of public service?? He has been in the Senate one term, served 4 years as a state legislator.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=SDEngineer][quote=arraya]Yes, I really did just bust out a Yoda quote to show how ridiculous they are.

A: I think McCain is a slightly bigger nightmere than Obama
B: The question I posed is valid.
C: I did not say it was fake. I stated the use of “African” to describe a black person was not commonly used if at all in 1961, therefore it is suspect.

Any google search on the political correctness movement can cite this. It’s well documented.

So again how was my question ridiculous? In what way?
[/quote]

So? Assuming that the hospital has upgraded their records to computer storage, it’s very likely they standardized the entries at the same time they did this. Nobody as far as I know is claiming that this is an ORIGINAL birth certificate from the 60’s, it’s a certified copy from hospital records (in fact, the copy I’ve seen on the web clearly isn’t, since it is clearly computer printed as opposed to hand-typed.)

It’s very likely that what happened is that the hospital when placing those records into the computer simply standardized on the currently PC choices, rather than have older records use different terminology for race.

I find this a more likely ad-hoc explanation than the alternative which implies a pretty massive conspiracy that has held up to decades of public service.

[/quote]

Decades of public service?? He has been in the Senate one term, served 4 years as a state legislator.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=SDEngineer][quote=arraya]Yes, I really did just bust out a Yoda quote to show how ridiculous they are.

A: I think McCain is a slightly bigger nightmere than Obama
B: The question I posed is valid.
C: I did not say it was fake. I stated the use of “African” to describe a black person was not commonly used if at all in 1961, therefore it is suspect.

Any google search on the political correctness movement can cite this. It’s well documented.

So again how was my question ridiculous? In what way?
[/quote]

So? Assuming that the hospital has upgraded their records to computer storage, it’s very likely they standardized the entries at the same time they did this. Nobody as far as I know is claiming that this is an ORIGINAL birth certificate from the 60’s, it’s a certified copy from hospital records (in fact, the copy I’ve seen on the web clearly isn’t, since it is clearly computer printed as opposed to hand-typed.)

It’s very likely that what happened is that the hospital when placing those records into the computer simply standardized on the currently PC choices, rather than have older records use different terminology for race.

I find this a more likely ad-hoc explanation than the alternative which implies a pretty massive conspiracy that has held up to decades of public service.

[/quote]

Decades of public service?? He has been in the Senate one term, served 4 years as a state legislator.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=SDEngineer][quote=arraya]Yes, I really did just bust out a Yoda quote to show how ridiculous they are.

A: I think McCain is a slightly bigger nightmere than Obama
B: The question I posed is valid.
C: I did not say it was fake. I stated the use of “African” to describe a black person was not commonly used if at all in 1961, therefore it is suspect.

Any google search on the political correctness movement can cite this. It’s well documented.

So again how was my question ridiculous? In what way?
[/quote]

So? Assuming that the hospital has upgraded their records to computer storage, it’s very likely they standardized the entries at the same time they did this. Nobody as far as I know is claiming that this is an ORIGINAL birth certificate from the 60’s, it’s a certified copy from hospital records (in fact, the copy I’ve seen on the web clearly isn’t, since it is clearly computer printed as opposed to hand-typed.)

It’s very likely that what happened is that the hospital when placing those records into the computer simply standardized on the currently PC choices, rather than have older records use different terminology for race.

I find this a more likely ad-hoc explanation than the alternative which implies a pretty massive conspiracy that has held up to decades of public service.

[/quote]

Decades of public service?? He has been in the Senate one term, served 4 years as a state legislator.

John

[jficquette]

Afx,

See, you resort to name calling because you have no case.

You keep saying that Obama has been proven to be eligible. Why then does an ex deputy Atty General of a huge state file a suit claiming otherwise? Maybe you should call him and let him know he is barking up the wrong tree since you appear to be the only one that knows that he has been proven to be eligible. You could save Mr. Berg some time. Give him a call.

Illegals get into our schools all the time. They get in our public schools, colleges, even the voting booth. Obama didn’t have to trick any school into admitting him. They never asked.

If you had had the stomach to read any of the material posted here you would know that the issue is not one of citizenship but if he a natural born citizen. That is the test for eligiblity.

Why is it the liberal way to resort to name calling and vulgar language??

John

[jficquette]

Afx,

See, you resort to name calling because you have no case.

You keep saying that Obama has been proven to be eligible. Why then does an ex deputy Atty General of a huge state file a suit claiming otherwise? Maybe you should call him and let him know he is barking up the wrong tree since you appear to be the only one that knows that he has been proven to be eligible. You could save Mr. Berg some time. Give him a call.

Illegals get into our schools all the time. They get in our public schools, colleges, even the voting booth. Obama didn’t have to trick any school into admitting him. They never asked.

If you had had the stomach to read any of the material posted here you would know that the issue is not one of citizenship but if he a natural born citizen. That is the test for eligiblity.

Why is it the liberal way to resort to name calling and vulgar language??

John

[jficquette]

Afx,

See, you resort to name calling because you have no case.

You keep saying that Obama has been proven to be eligible. Why then does an ex deputy Atty General of a huge state file a suit claiming otherwise? Maybe you should call him and let him know he is barking up the wrong tree since you appear to be the only one that knows that he has been proven to be eligible. You could save Mr. Berg some time. Give him a call.

Illegals get into our schools all the time. They get in our public schools, colleges, even the voting booth. Obama didn’t have to trick any school into admitting him. They never asked.

If you had had the stomach to read any of the material posted here you would know that the issue is not one of citizenship but if he a natural born citizen. That is the test for eligiblity.

Why is it the liberal way to resort to name calling and vulgar language??

John

[jficquette]

Afx,

See, you resort to name calling because you have no case.

You keep saying that Obama has been proven to be eligible. Why then does an ex deputy Atty General of a huge state file a suit claiming otherwise? Maybe you should call him and let him know he is barking up the wrong tree since you appear to be the only one that knows that he has been proven to be eligible. You could save Mr. Berg some time. Give him a call.

Illegals get into our schools all the time. They get in our public schools, colleges, even the voting booth. Obama didn’t have to trick any school into admitting him. They never asked.

If you had had the stomach to read any of the material posted here you would know that the issue is not one of citizenship but if he a natural born citizen. That is the test for eligiblity.

Why is it the liberal way to resort to name calling and vulgar language??

John

[jficquette]

Afx,

See, you resort to name calling because you have no case.

You keep saying that Obama has been proven to be eligible. Why then does an ex deputy Atty General of a huge state file a suit claiming otherwise? Maybe you should call him and let him know he is barking up the wrong tree since you appear to be the only one that knows that he has been proven to be eligible. You could save Mr. Berg some time. Give him a call.

Illegals get into our schools all the time. They get in our public schools, colleges, even the voting booth. Obama didn’t have to trick any school into admitting him. They never asked.

If you had had the stomach to read any of the material posted here you would know that the issue is not one of citizenship but if he a natural born citizen. That is the test for eligiblity.

Why is it the liberal way to resort to name calling and vulgar language??

John

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