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Participant[quote=jstoesz][quote]BTW, those salaries/benefits are recycled back into the economy as these employees spend their money. It is far better than “investments” by rich people that have a debt offset (require repayment PLUS interest/dividends).[/quote]
You are comparing apples and oranges. The money that the public sector is paid is from taxes. It is not organically grown from productive enterprises. Your argument amounts to a thief taking money from a cash register and then spending it in that very business as some sort of repayment.[/quote]
Yes stealing money from the store’s cash register to buy candy bars off the store’s shelf.
Participant[quote=jstoesz][quote]BTW, those salaries/benefits are recycled back into the economy as these employees spend their money. It is far better than “investments” by rich people that have a debt offset (require repayment PLUS interest/dividends).[/quote]
You are comparing apples and oranges. The money that the public sector is paid is from taxes. It is not organically grown from productive enterprises. Your argument amounts to a thief taking money from a cash register and then spending it in that very business as some sort of repayment.[/quote]
Yes stealing money from the store’s cash register to buy candy bars off the store’s shelf.
Participant[quote=jstoesz][quote]BTW, those salaries/benefits are recycled back into the economy as these employees spend their money. It is far better than “investments” by rich people that have a debt offset (require repayment PLUS interest/dividends).[/quote]
You are comparing apples and oranges. The money that the public sector is paid is from taxes. It is not organically grown from productive enterprises. Your argument amounts to a thief taking money from a cash register and then spending it in that very business as some sort of repayment.[/quote]
Yes stealing money from the store’s cash register to buy candy bars off the store’s shelf.
Participant[quote=jstoesz][quote]BTW, those salaries/benefits are recycled back into the economy as these employees spend their money. It is far better than “investments” by rich people that have a debt offset (require repayment PLUS interest/dividends).[/quote]
You are comparing apples and oranges. The money that the public sector is paid is from taxes. It is not organically grown from productive enterprises. Your argument amounts to a thief taking money from a cash register and then spending it in that very business as some sort of repayment.[/quote]
Yes stealing money from the store’s cash register to buy candy bars off the store’s shelf.
Participant80 cents on the dollar for pay and benefits??? That’s bullshit. It has to stop asap.
“In California, where an estimated 80 cents out of every government dollar goes to employee pay and benefits, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) has proposed a two-tier system of pensions that offers new state workers reduced benefits with tighter retirement formulas. He also wants state workers to kick in higher pension contributions to help deal with California’s staggering deficit.”
Participant80 cents on the dollar for pay and benefits??? That’s bullshit. It has to stop asap.
“In California, where an estimated 80 cents out of every government dollar goes to employee pay and benefits, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) has proposed a two-tier system of pensions that offers new state workers reduced benefits with tighter retirement formulas. He also wants state workers to kick in higher pension contributions to help deal with California’s staggering deficit.”
Participant80 cents on the dollar for pay and benefits??? That’s bullshit. It has to stop asap.
“In California, where an estimated 80 cents out of every government dollar goes to employee pay and benefits, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) has proposed a two-tier system of pensions that offers new state workers reduced benefits with tighter retirement formulas. He also wants state workers to kick in higher pension contributions to help deal with California’s staggering deficit.”
Participant80 cents on the dollar for pay and benefits??? That’s bullshit. It has to stop asap.
“In California, where an estimated 80 cents out of every government dollar goes to employee pay and benefits, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) has proposed a two-tier system of pensions that offers new state workers reduced benefits with tighter retirement formulas. He also wants state workers to kick in higher pension contributions to help deal with California’s staggering deficit.”
Participant80 cents on the dollar for pay and benefits??? That’s bullshit. It has to stop asap.
“In California, where an estimated 80 cents out of every government dollar goes to employee pay and benefits, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) has proposed a two-tier system of pensions that offers new state workers reduced benefits with tighter retirement formulas. He also wants state workers to kick in higher pension contributions to help deal with California’s staggering deficit.”
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=jficquette][quote=Aecetia]professional cop or firefighter/paramedic?[/quote]
CA Renter,
It’s nonsense that you would not save money by getting rid of the overpaid unionized government employees in public safety.
Public cost per year counting retirement is about $250k-$300k depending on how long they live which in this day and time is pushing 100 years old. Private pay would be about $75k per year.
That report on Iraq was written by an overpaid unionized government worker and is as bias as all government reports are. Even if it wasn’t slanted don’t you realize that fighting a war in Iraq is different then public safety in America? It’s not even Apples and Apples.
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=jficquette][quote=Aecetia]professional cop or firefighter/paramedic?[/quote]
CA Renter,
It’s nonsense that you would not save money by getting rid of the overpaid unionized government employees in public safety.
Public cost per year counting retirement is about $250k-$300k depending on how long they live which in this day and time is pushing 100 years old. Private pay would be about $75k per year.
That report on Iraq was written by an overpaid unionized government worker and is as bias as all government reports are. Even if it wasn’t slanted don’t you realize that fighting a war in Iraq is different then public safety in America? It’s not even Apples and Apples.
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=jficquette][quote=Aecetia]professional cop or firefighter/paramedic?[/quote]
CA Renter,
It’s nonsense that you would not save money by getting rid of the overpaid unionized government employees in public safety.
Public cost per year counting retirement is about $250k-$300k depending on how long they live which in this day and time is pushing 100 years old. Private pay would be about $75k per year.
That report on Iraq was written by an overpaid unionized government worker and is as bias as all government reports are. Even if it wasn’t slanted don’t you realize that fighting a war in Iraq is different then public safety in America? It’s not even Apples and Apples.
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=jficquette][quote=Aecetia]professional cop or firefighter/paramedic?[/quote]
CA Renter,
It’s nonsense that you would not save money by getting rid of the overpaid unionized government employees in public safety.
Public cost per year counting retirement is about $250k-$300k depending on how long they live which in this day and time is pushing 100 years old. Private pay would be about $75k per year.
That report on Iraq was written by an overpaid unionized government worker and is as bias as all government reports are. Even if it wasn’t slanted don’t you realize that fighting a war in Iraq is different then public safety in America? It’s not even Apples and Apples.
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=jficquette][quote=Aecetia]professional cop or firefighter/paramedic?[/quote]
CA Renter,
It’s nonsense that you would not save money by getting rid of the overpaid unionized government employees in public safety.
Public cost per year counting retirement is about $250k-$300k depending on how long they live which in this day and time is pushing 100 years old. Private pay would be about $75k per year.
That report on Iraq was written by an overpaid unionized government worker and is as bias as all government reports are. Even if it wasn’t slanted don’t you realize that fighting a war in Iraq is different then public safety in America? It’s not even Apples and Apples.
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