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I guess I should have prefaced the definitions of the thread with my own “take” on the the two sides of the argument. As I see it, individualism is analyzing the rights of a person based on their individual circumstances and background. Collectivism is analyzing the rights of a GROUP of persons based on similar characteristics (skin color, sexual orientation, religious beliefs, etc.).

In other words, I don’t view my neighbor, who is a Gay, Elderly Black Man; as a member of the Old, Homosexual, or Black communities…But rather I view him as an individual…no different than a Young, Heterosexual White Woman. Each are given the same unalienable rights bestowed upon them by their creator.

[greekfire]

I guess I should have prefaced the definitions of the thread with my own “take” on the the two sides of the argument. As I see it, individualism is analyzing the rights of a person based on their individual circumstances and background. Collectivism is analyzing the rights of a GROUP of persons based on similar characteristics (skin color, sexual orientation, religious beliefs, etc.).

In other words, I don’t view my neighbor, who is a Gay, Elderly Black Man; as a member of the Old, Homosexual, or Black communities…But rather I view him as an individual…no different than a Young, Heterosexual White Woman. Each are given the same unalienable rights bestowed upon them by their creator.

[greekfire]

I guess I should have prefaced the definitions of the thread with my own “take” on the the two sides of the argument. As I see it, individualism is analyzing the rights of a person based on their individual circumstances and background. Collectivism is analyzing the rights of a GROUP of persons based on similar characteristics (skin color, sexual orientation, religious beliefs, etc.).

In other words, I don’t view my neighbor, who is a Gay, Elderly Black Man; as a member of the Old, Homosexual, or Black communities…But rather I view him as an individual…no different than a Young, Heterosexual White Woman. Each are given the same unalienable rights bestowed upon them by their creator.

[greekfire]

Luchabee,
Not sure who you are addressing or what you are trying to express, please elaborate.

Sincerely,
Fellow Lazy Conservative

[greekfire]

Luchabee,
Not sure who you are addressing or what you are trying to express, please elaborate.

Sincerely,
Fellow Lazy Conservative

[greekfire]

Luchabee,
Not sure who you are addressing or what you are trying to express, please elaborate.

Sincerely,
Fellow Lazy Conservative

[greekfire]

Luchabee,
Not sure who you are addressing or what you are trying to express, please elaborate.

Sincerely,
Fellow Lazy Conservative

[greekfire]

Luchabee,
Not sure who you are addressing or what you are trying to express, please elaborate.

Sincerely,
Fellow Lazy Conservative

[greekfire]

I didn’t read the article, I must confess. I have already left the GOP (as it stands) in spirit. I keep checking myself to see if I am just in a pessimistic period in my life. However, the more I look around, the more I see that I am not alone.

This is what we have to show for a century of 2 party rule. Republican, Democrat…they’re the same aside from a few subtle differences. Sure, they’ll argue that they are philosophically different from one another, but they certainly don’t vote that way.

The more I have studied our current predicament, the more resolved I become in my quest to form a viable, and I mean truly VIABLE, third political party. This, IMHO, is a key step in not only gaining political power, but also in reducing the political power of the 2 current parties.

I envision a third “Independent” party that is a coalition of those parties that are neither Democrat or Republican. The Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Independents, disaffected Republicans and Democrats, and others would all band together to form our own third party. I call it the Independent Party primarily because the Independent Party has excellent name/brand recognition already and I believe it is already has ballot access in all 50 states.

Those on this website know me to be a big supporter of Ron Paul. I plan on writing him in come November. The Kool-Aid drinker will give the classic retort that a vote that is not for McCain is a vote for Obama. Ah, the old lesser of 2 evils argument. That’s how they get you folks. I am sure that the left uses the same tactic for those who want to vote for Hillary…that a vote for her is a vote for McCain.

My vote for Ron Paul says 2 things: I am here to participate in our democratic voting process; and my vote is a vote of NO CONFIDENCE in the 2 candidates that our media-political system is force-feeding down our throats. A vote for Hillary Clinton, Bob Barr, Ralph Nader, Chuck Baldwin, or even Dennis Kucinich is the same thing. It is a middle-finger to the establishment.

And, immediately after casting your anti-establishment vote, find ways to get involved in local politics…if you haven’t done so already. We have nobody to blame for our current predicament but ourselves. After all, we’re the ones who voted these scumbags into office.

[greekfire]

I didn’t read the article, I must confess. I have already left the GOP (as it stands) in spirit. I keep checking myself to see if I am just in a pessimistic period in my life. However, the more I look around, the more I see that I am not alone.

This is what we have to show for a century of 2 party rule. Republican, Democrat…they’re the same aside from a few subtle differences. Sure, they’ll argue that they are philosophically different from one another, but they certainly don’t vote that way.

The more I have studied our current predicament, the more resolved I become in my quest to form a viable, and I mean truly VIABLE, third political party. This, IMHO, is a key step in not only gaining political power, but also in reducing the political power of the 2 current parties.

I envision a third “Independent” party that is a coalition of those parties that are neither Democrat or Republican. The Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Independents, disaffected Republicans and Democrats, and others would all band together to form our own third party. I call it the Independent Party primarily because the Independent Party has excellent name/brand recognition already and I believe it is already has ballot access in all 50 states.

Those on this website know me to be a big supporter of Ron Paul. I plan on writing him in come November. The Kool-Aid drinker will give the classic retort that a vote that is not for McCain is a vote for Obama. Ah, the old lesser of 2 evils argument. That’s how they get you folks. I am sure that the left uses the same tactic for those who want to vote for Hillary…that a vote for her is a vote for McCain.

My vote for Ron Paul says 2 things: I am here to participate in our democratic voting process; and my vote is a vote of NO CONFIDENCE in the 2 candidates that our media-political system is force-feeding down our throats. A vote for Hillary Clinton, Bob Barr, Ralph Nader, Chuck Baldwin, or even Dennis Kucinich is the same thing. It is a middle-finger to the establishment.

And, immediately after casting your anti-establishment vote, find ways to get involved in local politics…if you haven’t done so already. We have nobody to blame for our current predicament but ourselves. After all, we’re the ones who voted these scumbags into office.

[greekfire]

I didn’t read the article, I must confess. I have already left the GOP (as it stands) in spirit. I keep checking myself to see if I am just in a pessimistic period in my life. However, the more I look around, the more I see that I am not alone.

This is what we have to show for a century of 2 party rule. Republican, Democrat…they’re the same aside from a few subtle differences. Sure, they’ll argue that they are philosophically different from one another, but they certainly don’t vote that way.

The more I have studied our current predicament, the more resolved I become in my quest to form a viable, and I mean truly VIABLE, third political party. This, IMHO, is a key step in not only gaining political power, but also in reducing the political power of the 2 current parties.

I envision a third “Independent” party that is a coalition of those parties that are neither Democrat or Republican. The Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Independents, disaffected Republicans and Democrats, and others would all band together to form our own third party. I call it the Independent Party primarily because the Independent Party has excellent name/brand recognition already and I believe it is already has ballot access in all 50 states.

Those on this website know me to be a big supporter of Ron Paul. I plan on writing him in come November. The Kool-Aid drinker will give the classic retort that a vote that is not for McCain is a vote for Obama. Ah, the old lesser of 2 evils argument. That’s how they get you folks. I am sure that the left uses the same tactic for those who want to vote for Hillary…that a vote for her is a vote for McCain.

My vote for Ron Paul says 2 things: I am here to participate in our democratic voting process; and my vote is a vote of NO CONFIDENCE in the 2 candidates that our media-political system is force-feeding down our throats. A vote for Hillary Clinton, Bob Barr, Ralph Nader, Chuck Baldwin, or even Dennis Kucinich is the same thing. It is a middle-finger to the establishment.

And, immediately after casting your anti-establishment vote, find ways to get involved in local politics…if you haven’t done so already. We have nobody to blame for our current predicament but ourselves. After all, we’re the ones who voted these scumbags into office.

[greekfire]

I didn’t read the article, I must confess. I have already left the GOP (as it stands) in spirit. I keep checking myself to see if I am just in a pessimistic period in my life. However, the more I look around, the more I see that I am not alone.

This is what we have to show for a century of 2 party rule. Republican, Democrat…they’re the same aside from a few subtle differences. Sure, they’ll argue that they are philosophically different from one another, but they certainly don’t vote that way.

The more I have studied our current predicament, the more resolved I become in my quest to form a viable, and I mean truly VIABLE, third political party. This, IMHO, is a key step in not only gaining political power, but also in reducing the political power of the 2 current parties.

I envision a third “Independent” party that is a coalition of those parties that are neither Democrat or Republican. The Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Independents, disaffected Republicans and Democrats, and others would all band together to form our own third party. I call it the Independent Party primarily because the Independent Party has excellent name/brand recognition already and I believe it is already has ballot access in all 50 states.

Those on this website know me to be a big supporter of Ron Paul. I plan on writing him in come November. The Kool-Aid drinker will give the classic retort that a vote that is not for McCain is a vote for Obama. Ah, the old lesser of 2 evils argument. That’s how they get you folks. I am sure that the left uses the same tactic for those who want to vote for Hillary…that a vote for her is a vote for McCain.

My vote for Ron Paul says 2 things: I am here to participate in our democratic voting process; and my vote is a vote of NO CONFIDENCE in the 2 candidates that our media-political system is force-feeding down our throats. A vote for Hillary Clinton, Bob Barr, Ralph Nader, Chuck Baldwin, or even Dennis Kucinich is the same thing. It is a middle-finger to the establishment.

And, immediately after casting your anti-establishment vote, find ways to get involved in local politics…if you haven’t done so already. We have nobody to blame for our current predicament but ourselves. After all, we’re the ones who voted these scumbags into office.

[greekfire]

I didn’t read the article, I must confess. I have already left the GOP (as it stands) in spirit. I keep checking myself to see if I am just in a pessimistic period in my life. However, the more I look around, the more I see that I am not alone.

This is what we have to show for a century of 2 party rule. Republican, Democrat…they’re the same aside from a few subtle differences. Sure, they’ll argue that they are philosophically different from one another, but they certainly don’t vote that way.

The more I have studied our current predicament, the more resolved I become in my quest to form a viable, and I mean truly VIABLE, third political party. This, IMHO, is a key step in not only gaining political power, but also in reducing the political power of the 2 current parties.

I envision a third “Independent” party that is a coalition of those parties that are neither Democrat or Republican. The Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Independents, disaffected Republicans and Democrats, and others would all band together to form our own third party. I call it the Independent Party primarily because the Independent Party has excellent name/brand recognition already and I believe it is already has ballot access in all 50 states.

Those on this website know me to be a big supporter of Ron Paul. I plan on writing him in come November. The Kool-Aid drinker will give the classic retort that a vote that is not for McCain is a vote for Obama. Ah, the old lesser of 2 evils argument. That’s how they get you folks. I am sure that the left uses the same tactic for those who want to vote for Hillary…that a vote for her is a vote for McCain.

My vote for Ron Paul says 2 things: I am here to participate in our democratic voting process; and my vote is a vote of NO CONFIDENCE in the 2 candidates that our media-political system is force-feeding down our throats. A vote for Hillary Clinton, Bob Barr, Ralph Nader, Chuck Baldwin, or even Dennis Kucinich is the same thing. It is a middle-finger to the establishment.

And, immediately after casting your anti-establishment vote, find ways to get involved in local politics…if you haven’t done so already. We have nobody to blame for our current predicament but ourselves. After all, we’re the ones who voted these scumbags into office.

[greekfire]

We could always tell OC Renter over at BMIT
(http://bubbletracking.blogspot.com/) about it…I’m sure he wouldn’t mind covering it!

[greekfire]

We could always tell OC Renter over at BMIT
(http://bubbletracking.blogspot.com/) about it…I’m sure he wouldn’t mind covering it!

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