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June 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #230602June 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #230724
gandalf
ParticipantYou’re right about Iraqi WMD intents and interest in Niger but wrong about the immediacy of the threat. They did not obtain uranium from Niger. This we know. The Bush administration nevertheless trumped up the notion that Iraq was an immediate threat to our national security to support its case for an invasion in Iraq, and specifically used the Niger case to do so. That’s impeachable in my book.
I repeat, Iraq was not the central threat in the ME. AQ was, and remains so. Absurdly, removing Saddam hurt our strategic position vis-a-vis the Saudis, Iran and Afghan/Pakistan, key players in the Qaeda picture. Soviet-era nukes in the wrong hands remain the primary threat, along with Pakistan / Kahn’s network. We’re playing checkers on a dangerous chess board, dickering around in Iraq.
Plame was covert prior to desk work. Outing her almost certainly burned contacts in the region (I suspect there were issues with her within the CIA). The larger point from my view is, why even go there? Why incur the risk? Over an Op-Ed? We need every ounce of intel out of that region we can get. Politics trumped national security. Cheney crossed the line and should be in jail. Everybody knows this.
Finally, Clinton was a horrible President. We should have been ultra-aggressive and responded with great pressure after WTC1, Kobar, Cole, etc. Clinton punted the tough decisions, just as Bush is doing with Iraq. Neither compares to Eisenhower (or Reagan).
June 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #230735gandalf
ParticipantYou’re right about Iraqi WMD intents and interest in Niger but wrong about the immediacy of the threat. They did not obtain uranium from Niger. This we know. The Bush administration nevertheless trumped up the notion that Iraq was an immediate threat to our national security to support its case for an invasion in Iraq, and specifically used the Niger case to do so. That’s impeachable in my book.
I repeat, Iraq was not the central threat in the ME. AQ was, and remains so. Absurdly, removing Saddam hurt our strategic position vis-a-vis the Saudis, Iran and Afghan/Pakistan, key players in the Qaeda picture. Soviet-era nukes in the wrong hands remain the primary threat, along with Pakistan / Kahn’s network. We’re playing checkers on a dangerous chess board, dickering around in Iraq.
Plame was covert prior to desk work. Outing her almost certainly burned contacts in the region (I suspect there were issues with her within the CIA). The larger point from my view is, why even go there? Why incur the risk? Over an Op-Ed? We need every ounce of intel out of that region we can get. Politics trumped national security. Cheney crossed the line and should be in jail. Everybody knows this.
Finally, Clinton was a horrible President. We should have been ultra-aggressive and responded with great pressure after WTC1, Kobar, Cole, etc. Clinton punted the tough decisions, just as Bush is doing with Iraq. Neither compares to Eisenhower (or Reagan).
June 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #230771gandalf
ParticipantYou’re right about Iraqi WMD intents and interest in Niger but wrong about the immediacy of the threat. They did not obtain uranium from Niger. This we know. The Bush administration nevertheless trumped up the notion that Iraq was an immediate threat to our national security to support its case for an invasion in Iraq, and specifically used the Niger case to do so. That’s impeachable in my book.
I repeat, Iraq was not the central threat in the ME. AQ was, and remains so. Absurdly, removing Saddam hurt our strategic position vis-a-vis the Saudis, Iran and Afghan/Pakistan, key players in the Qaeda picture. Soviet-era nukes in the wrong hands remain the primary threat, along with Pakistan / Kahn’s network. We’re playing checkers on a dangerous chess board, dickering around in Iraq.
Plame was covert prior to desk work. Outing her almost certainly burned contacts in the region (I suspect there were issues with her within the CIA). The larger point from my view is, why even go there? Why incur the risk? Over an Op-Ed? We need every ounce of intel out of that region we can get. Politics trumped national security. Cheney crossed the line and should be in jail. Everybody knows this.
Finally, Clinton was a horrible President. We should have been ultra-aggressive and responded with great pressure after WTC1, Kobar, Cole, etc. Clinton punted the tough decisions, just as Bush is doing with Iraq. Neither compares to Eisenhower (or Reagan).
June 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #230787gandalf
ParticipantYou’re right about Iraqi WMD intents and interest in Niger but wrong about the immediacy of the threat. They did not obtain uranium from Niger. This we know. The Bush administration nevertheless trumped up the notion that Iraq was an immediate threat to our national security to support its case for an invasion in Iraq, and specifically used the Niger case to do so. That’s impeachable in my book.
I repeat, Iraq was not the central threat in the ME. AQ was, and remains so. Absurdly, removing Saddam hurt our strategic position vis-a-vis the Saudis, Iran and Afghan/Pakistan, key players in the Qaeda picture. Soviet-era nukes in the wrong hands remain the primary threat, along with Pakistan / Kahn’s network. We’re playing checkers on a dangerous chess board, dickering around in Iraq.
Plame was covert prior to desk work. Outing her almost certainly burned contacts in the region (I suspect there were issues with her within the CIA). The larger point from my view is, why even go there? Why incur the risk? Over an Op-Ed? We need every ounce of intel out of that region we can get. Politics trumped national security. Cheney crossed the line and should be in jail. Everybody knows this.
Finally, Clinton was a horrible President. We should have been ultra-aggressive and responded with great pressure after WTC1, Kobar, Cole, etc. Clinton punted the tough decisions, just as Bush is doing with Iraq. Neither compares to Eisenhower (or Reagan).
June 28, 2008 at 9:40 PM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #230522gandalf
Participant“… and not just because I am bored to death with myself at this point.”
LOL, yeah me too…
Bored with myself, that is. <ha,ha>
On we go.
June 28, 2008 at 9:40 PM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #230647gandalf
Participant“… and not just because I am bored to death with myself at this point.”
LOL, yeah me too…
Bored with myself, that is. <ha,ha>
On we go.
June 28, 2008 at 9:40 PM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #230655gandalf
Participant“… and not just because I am bored to death with myself at this point.”
LOL, yeah me too…
Bored with myself, that is. <ha,ha>
On we go.
June 28, 2008 at 9:40 PM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #230691gandalf
Participant“… and not just because I am bored to death with myself at this point.”
LOL, yeah me too…
Bored with myself, that is. <ha,ha>
On we go.
June 28, 2008 at 9:40 PM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #230706gandalf
Participant“… and not just because I am bored to death with myself at this point.”
LOL, yeah me too…
Bored with myself, that is. <ha,ha>
On we go.
June 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM in reply to: Birth Certificate suggest Obama may not be a natural born US citizen #230358gandalf
ParticipantThis jfiq guy has been posting for a couple of months now. Not much about real estate, mostly partisan political garbage like this. I think he’s some sort of political party operative, infiltrating the Piggs…
One of those college republican types too, no time in the service but attacks dems for being weak on defense and not wearing flag pins and such.
June 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM in reply to: Birth Certificate suggest Obama may not be a natural born US citizen #230481gandalf
ParticipantThis jfiq guy has been posting for a couple of months now. Not much about real estate, mostly partisan political garbage like this. I think he’s some sort of political party operative, infiltrating the Piggs…
One of those college republican types too, no time in the service but attacks dems for being weak on defense and not wearing flag pins and such.
June 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM in reply to: Birth Certificate suggest Obama may not be a natural born US citizen #230488gandalf
ParticipantThis jfiq guy has been posting for a couple of months now. Not much about real estate, mostly partisan political garbage like this. I think he’s some sort of political party operative, infiltrating the Piggs…
One of those college republican types too, no time in the service but attacks dems for being weak on defense and not wearing flag pins and such.
June 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM in reply to: Birth Certificate suggest Obama may not be a natural born US citizen #230523gandalf
ParticipantThis jfiq guy has been posting for a couple of months now. Not much about real estate, mostly partisan political garbage like this. I think he’s some sort of political party operative, infiltrating the Piggs…
One of those college republican types too, no time in the service but attacks dems for being weak on defense and not wearing flag pins and such.
June 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM in reply to: Birth Certificate suggest Obama may not be a natural born US citizen #230538gandalf
ParticipantThis jfiq guy has been posting for a couple of months now. Not much about real estate, mostly partisan political garbage like this. I think he’s some sort of political party operative, infiltrating the Piggs…
One of those college republican types too, no time in the service but attacks dems for being weak on defense and not wearing flag pins and such.
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