[EJ]

[quote=Misscotroneo]Hi..Im new to this site and this article grabbed me hard. I am very surprised to hear how angry and personal alot of people feel about someone who is hoping to renegotiate the terms,percent,principal amount or whatever they can on the loans they made. I dont like the way the ecomony is and so many people I know are choking on their mortgage payments. I am one of those choking on 8 mortgage payments. It seems you feel that I should just suffer and since I am lazy and or stupid I deserve this..?? Us real estate investors are neither,we put our necks out trying to make changes in our lives,in turn helps those who rent and not buy.we put down tons of money to purchase a property, and yes when things were good we didnt sit and stop and think,what if this all goes down the drain fast?How do I pay all this? Ive got 3 properties that I owe more than its worth now,and those were actually good investments at the time,NOW?I want to shoot myself everyday.The only reason i havent been foreclosed on is fom the cash flow of the other properties.(thank god above for that)If we can get the banks to drop the loan amount to fair price or renigotiate the terms it is better for all.We then can afford to keep our properties,not get foreclosed on,which is bad for the area.then when the average Joe comes to buy the value of his property is compared to the foreclosed ones. I may have stretched myself a little thin but I was able to afford it at the time.Renters leave due to layoffs,renters dont pay,destroy property,more crimes are commited,etc.Maybe instead of calling all of us idiots,think what it really means to put millions into property hoping to build wealth for your family and have all that money become worth nothing!!You should be villifying the county tax assesors, who raise taxes by doubling each year,the condo associations who double the fees several times a year, and the banks and brokerage houses that took billions of our hard earned money and gave it to their Big wheels, who LOST IT ALL!!I cant pay my property taxes,so they double it( 1 house is $16,000 a year now!!started at $2,500) and give it to JP Morgan to give a nice $3 million dollar bonus. THATS what the problem is.The banks took billions of dollars from us,you and me, so adjusting mortgages of those who have alot of money at risk is the least they can do!!!
and that is my rant…cheers[/quote]

Misscotroneo = Casey Serin?

Get a job. Don’t buy things you can’t afford. Stop blaming other people for your mistakes.

“helps those who rent and not buy” … yeah right, I highly doubt you were trying to help improve the lives of the poor renters.

“How do I pay all this?” … maybe you should have thought that through before you signed 8 mortgages.

“I may have stretched myself a little thin” … do you think? Is this a reason to get a bailout?

“Renters leave due to layoffs,renters dont pay,destroy property,more crimes are commited,etc” … I thought you were trying to help the renters?

[EJ]

[quote=Misscotroneo]Hi..Im new to this site and this article grabbed me hard. I am very surprised to hear how angry and personal alot of people feel about someone who is hoping to renegotiate the terms,percent,principal amount or whatever they can on the loans they made. I dont like the way the ecomony is and so many people I know are choking on their mortgage payments. I am one of those choking on 8 mortgage payments. It seems you feel that I should just suffer and since I am lazy and or stupid I deserve this..?? Us real estate investors are neither,we put our necks out trying to make changes in our lives,in turn helps those who rent and not buy.we put down tons of money to purchase a property, and yes when things were good we didnt sit and stop and think,what if this all goes down the drain fast?How do I pay all this? Ive got 3 properties that I owe more than its worth now,and those were actually good investments at the time,NOW?I want to shoot myself everyday.The only reason i havent been foreclosed on is fom the cash flow of the other properties.(thank god above for that)If we can get the banks to drop the loan amount to fair price or renigotiate the terms it is better for all.We then can afford to keep our properties,not get foreclosed on,which is bad for the area.then when the average Joe comes to buy the value of his property is compared to the foreclosed ones. I may have stretched myself a little thin but I was able to afford it at the time.Renters leave due to layoffs,renters dont pay,destroy property,more crimes are commited,etc.Maybe instead of calling all of us idiots,think what it really means to put millions into property hoping to build wealth for your family and have all that money become worth nothing!!You should be villifying the county tax assesors, who raise taxes by doubling each year,the condo associations who double the fees several times a year, and the banks and brokerage houses that took billions of our hard earned money and gave it to their Big wheels, who LOST IT ALL!!I cant pay my property taxes,so they double it( 1 house is $16,000 a year now!!started at $2,500) and give it to JP Morgan to give a nice $3 million dollar bonus. THATS what the problem is.The banks took billions of dollars from us,you and me, so adjusting mortgages of those who have alot of money at risk is the least they can do!!!
and that is my rant…cheers[/quote]

Misscotroneo = Casey Serin?

Get a job. Don’t buy things you can’t afford. Stop blaming other people for your mistakes.

“helps those who rent and not buy” … yeah right, I highly doubt you were trying to help improve the lives of the poor renters.

“How do I pay all this?” … maybe you should have thought that through before you signed 8 mortgages.

“I may have stretched myself a little thin” … do you think? Is this a reason to get a bailout?

“Renters leave due to layoffs,renters dont pay,destroy property,more crimes are commited,etc” … I thought you were trying to help the renters?

[EJ]

[quote=Misscotroneo]Hi..Im new to this site and this article grabbed me hard. I am very surprised to hear how angry and personal alot of people feel about someone who is hoping to renegotiate the terms,percent,principal amount or whatever they can on the loans they made. I dont like the way the ecomony is and so many people I know are choking on their mortgage payments. I am one of those choking on 8 mortgage payments. It seems you feel that I should just suffer and since I am lazy and or stupid I deserve this..?? Us real estate investors are neither,we put our necks out trying to make changes in our lives,in turn helps those who rent and not buy.we put down tons of money to purchase a property, and yes when things were good we didnt sit and stop and think,what if this all goes down the drain fast?How do I pay all this? Ive got 3 properties that I owe more than its worth now,and those were actually good investments at the time,NOW?I want to shoot myself everyday.The only reason i havent been foreclosed on is fom the cash flow of the other properties.(thank god above for that)If we can get the banks to drop the loan amount to fair price or renigotiate the terms it is better for all.We then can afford to keep our properties,not get foreclosed on,which is bad for the area.then when the average Joe comes to buy the value of his property is compared to the foreclosed ones. I may have stretched myself a little thin but I was able to afford it at the time.Renters leave due to layoffs,renters dont pay,destroy property,more crimes are commited,etc.Maybe instead of calling all of us idiots,think what it really means to put millions into property hoping to build wealth for your family and have all that money become worth nothing!!You should be villifying the county tax assesors, who raise taxes by doubling each year,the condo associations who double the fees several times a year, and the banks and brokerage houses that took billions of our hard earned money and gave it to their Big wheels, who LOST IT ALL!!I cant pay my property taxes,so they double it( 1 house is $16,000 a year now!!started at $2,500) and give it to JP Morgan to give a nice $3 million dollar bonus. THATS what the problem is.The banks took billions of dollars from us,you and me, so adjusting mortgages of those who have alot of money at risk is the least they can do!!!
and that is my rant…cheers[/quote]

Misscotroneo = Casey Serin?

Get a job. Don’t buy things you can’t afford. Stop blaming other people for your mistakes.

“helps those who rent and not buy” … yeah right, I highly doubt you were trying to help improve the lives of the poor renters.

“How do I pay all this?” … maybe you should have thought that through before you signed 8 mortgages.

“I may have stretched myself a little thin” … do you think? Is this a reason to get a bailout?

“Renters leave due to layoffs,renters dont pay,destroy property,more crimes are commited,etc” … I thought you were trying to help the renters?

[EJ]

[quote=Misscotroneo]Hi..Im new to this site and this article grabbed me hard. I am very surprised to hear how angry and personal alot of people feel about someone who is hoping to renegotiate the terms,percent,principal amount or whatever they can on the loans they made. I dont like the way the ecomony is and so many people I know are choking on their mortgage payments. I am one of those choking on 8 mortgage payments. It seems you feel that I should just suffer and since I am lazy and or stupid I deserve this..?? Us real estate investors are neither,we put our necks out trying to make changes in our lives,in turn helps those who rent and not buy.we put down tons of money to purchase a property, and yes when things were good we didnt sit and stop and think,what if this all goes down the drain fast?How do I pay all this? Ive got 3 properties that I owe more than its worth now,and those were actually good investments at the time,NOW?I want to shoot myself everyday.The only reason i havent been foreclosed on is fom the cash flow of the other properties.(thank god above for that)If we can get the banks to drop the loan amount to fair price or renigotiate the terms it is better for all.We then can afford to keep our properties,not get foreclosed on,which is bad for the area.then when the average Joe comes to buy the value of his property is compared to the foreclosed ones. I may have stretched myself a little thin but I was able to afford it at the time.Renters leave due to layoffs,renters dont pay,destroy property,more crimes are commited,etc.Maybe instead of calling all of us idiots,think what it really means to put millions into property hoping to build wealth for your family and have all that money become worth nothing!!You should be villifying the county tax assesors, who raise taxes by doubling each year,the condo associations who double the fees several times a year, and the banks and brokerage houses that took billions of our hard earned money and gave it to their Big wheels, who LOST IT ALL!!I cant pay my property taxes,so they double it( 1 house is $16,000 a year now!!started at $2,500) and give it to JP Morgan to give a nice $3 million dollar bonus. THATS what the problem is.The banks took billions of dollars from us,you and me, so adjusting mortgages of those who have alot of money at risk is the least they can do!!!
and that is my rant…cheers[/quote]

Misscotroneo = Casey Serin?

Get a job. Don’t buy things you can’t afford. Stop blaming other people for your mistakes.

“helps those who rent and not buy” … yeah right, I highly doubt you were trying to help improve the lives of the poor renters.

“How do I pay all this?” … maybe you should have thought that through before you signed 8 mortgages.

“I may have stretched myself a little thin” … do you think? Is this a reason to get a bailout?

“Renters leave due to layoffs,renters dont pay,destroy property,more crimes are commited,etc” … I thought you were trying to help the renters?

[EJ]

reminder of previous predictions:

http://piggington.com/ot_countdown_three_weeks_to_chaos

” I have studied each of their reports, in which they have consistently labeled Fall 2008 as the point in which the world in general, and the U.S. in particular, would enter the heart of the system crisis. The only variation I note is that LEAP estimates that the dollar’s role as the world’s reserve currency will cease around the end of the 2nd quarter of 2009. My source believes that it will happen sooner. Or perhaps it is the case that the process begins in October and culminates in June. In any event,
the Fall and Winter are going to be extraordinarily brutal.

I am hoping that all who read this will understand the message that I am trying to relay to you: time is short. Many of us have been expecting what is coming from months or years. Some have only awaken to what is coming a few months ago. Others still don’t understand what is coming. But as Wall St literally disintegrates before our eyes, I don’t think there can be any question at this point that we are on the verge of something unprecedented and catastrophic.

If you have money in the markets, you need to get it out NOW.”

Partypup, Sept 2008

[EJ]

reminder of previous predictions:

http://piggington.com/ot_countdown_three_weeks_to_chaos

” I have studied each of their reports, in which they have consistently labeled Fall 2008 as the point in which the world in general, and the U.S. in particular, would enter the heart of the system crisis. The only variation I note is that LEAP estimates that the dollar’s role as the world’s reserve currency will cease around the end of the 2nd quarter of 2009. My source believes that it will happen sooner. Or perhaps it is the case that the process begins in October and culminates in June. In any event,
the Fall and Winter are going to be extraordinarily brutal.

I am hoping that all who read this will understand the message that I am trying to relay to you: time is short. Many of us have been expecting what is coming from months or years. Some have only awaken to what is coming a few months ago. Others still don’t understand what is coming. But as Wall St literally disintegrates before our eyes, I don’t think there can be any question at this point that we are on the verge of something unprecedented and catastrophic.

If you have money in the markets, you need to get it out NOW.”

Partypup, Sept 2008

[EJ]

reminder of previous predictions:

http://piggington.com/ot_countdown_three_weeks_to_chaos

” I have studied each of their reports, in which they have consistently labeled Fall 2008 as the point in which the world in general, and the U.S. in particular, would enter the heart of the system crisis. The only variation I note is that LEAP estimates that the dollar’s role as the world’s reserve currency will cease around the end of the 2nd quarter of 2009. My source believes that it will happen sooner. Or perhaps it is the case that the process begins in October and culminates in June. In any event,
the Fall and Winter are going to be extraordinarily brutal.

I am hoping that all who read this will understand the message that I am trying to relay to you: time is short. Many of us have been expecting what is coming from months or years. Some have only awaken to what is coming a few months ago. Others still don’t understand what is coming. But as Wall St literally disintegrates before our eyes, I don’t think there can be any question at this point that we are on the verge of something unprecedented and catastrophic.

If you have money in the markets, you need to get it out NOW.”

Partypup, Sept 2008

[EJ]

reminder of previous predictions:

http://piggington.com/ot_countdown_three_weeks_to_chaos

” I have studied each of their reports, in which they have consistently labeled Fall 2008 as the point in which the world in general, and the U.S. in particular, would enter the heart of the system crisis. The only variation I note is that LEAP estimates that the dollar’s role as the world’s reserve currency will cease around the end of the 2nd quarter of 2009. My source believes that it will happen sooner. Or perhaps it is the case that the process begins in October and culminates in June. In any event,
the Fall and Winter are going to be extraordinarily brutal.

I am hoping that all who read this will understand the message that I am trying to relay to you: time is short. Many of us have been expecting what is coming from months or years. Some have only awaken to what is coming a few months ago. Others still don’t understand what is coming. But as Wall St literally disintegrates before our eyes, I don’t think there can be any question at this point that we are on the verge of something unprecedented and catastrophic.

If you have money in the markets, you need to get it out NOW.”

Partypup, Sept 2008

[EJ]

reminder of previous predictions:

http://piggington.com/ot_countdown_three_weeks_to_chaos

” I have studied each of their reports, in which they have consistently labeled Fall 2008 as the point in which the world in general, and the U.S. in particular, would enter the heart of the system crisis. The only variation I note is that LEAP estimates that the dollar’s role as the world’s reserve currency will cease around the end of the 2nd quarter of 2009. My source believes that it will happen sooner. Or perhaps it is the case that the process begins in October and culminates in June. In any event,
the Fall and Winter are going to be extraordinarily brutal.

I am hoping that all who read this will understand the message that I am trying to relay to you: time is short. Many of us have been expecting what is coming from months or years. Some have only awaken to what is coming a few months ago. Others still don’t understand what is coming. But as Wall St literally disintegrates before our eyes, I don’t think there can be any question at this point that we are on the verge of something unprecedented and catastrophic.

If you have money in the markets, you need to get it out NOW.”

Partypup, Sept 2008

[EJ]

IMHO … there should be a more strict driving test if you want to drive a car over a certain weight.

Just like the truckers … if you want to be safe in your “tank” demonstrate your driving skills.
– Too many tickets and you are back in your civic.
– One head-on accident in your “tank”, banned for life
– Not related to safety, but a very difficult parking test for large vehicles would be my personal favorite.

If you want to be safe: drive defensive, expect the unexpected, don’t tailgate.

I guess the other option is buy a huge car and drive however you want. That seems to be the prevailing attitude currently, at least while gas is cheap.

[EJ]

IMHO … there should be a more strict driving test if you want to drive a car over a certain weight.

Just like the truckers … if you want to be safe in your “tank” demonstrate your driving skills.
– Too many tickets and you are back in your civic.
– One head-on accident in your “tank”, banned for life
– Not related to safety, but a very difficult parking test for large vehicles would be my personal favorite.

If you want to be safe: drive defensive, expect the unexpected, don’t tailgate.

I guess the other option is buy a huge car and drive however you want. That seems to be the prevailing attitude currently, at least while gas is cheap.

[EJ]

IMHO … there should be a more strict driving test if you want to drive a car over a certain weight.

Just like the truckers … if you want to be safe in your “tank” demonstrate your driving skills.
– Too many tickets and you are back in your civic.
– One head-on accident in your “tank”, banned for life
– Not related to safety, but a very difficult parking test for large vehicles would be my personal favorite.

If you want to be safe: drive defensive, expect the unexpected, don’t tailgate.

I guess the other option is buy a huge car and drive however you want. That seems to be the prevailing attitude currently, at least while gas is cheap.

[EJ]

IMHO … there should be a more strict driving test if you want to drive a car over a certain weight.

Just like the truckers … if you want to be safe in your “tank” demonstrate your driving skills.
– Too many tickets and you are back in your civic.
– One head-on accident in your “tank”, banned for life
– Not related to safety, but a very difficult parking test for large vehicles would be my personal favorite.

If you want to be safe: drive defensive, expect the unexpected, don’t tailgate.

I guess the other option is buy a huge car and drive however you want. That seems to be the prevailing attitude currently, at least while gas is cheap.

[EJ]

IMHO … there should be a more strict driving test if you want to drive a car over a certain weight.

Just like the truckers … if you want to be safe in your “tank” demonstrate your driving skills.
– Too many tickets and you are back in your civic.
– One head-on accident in your “tank”, banned for life
– Not related to safety, but a very difficult parking test for large vehicles would be my personal favorite.

If you want to be safe: drive defensive, expect the unexpected, don’t tailgate.

I guess the other option is buy a huge car and drive however you want. That seems to be the prevailing attitude currently, at least while gas is cheap.

[EJ]

“Making Home Affordable”
Nice title for the plan, kinda ironic. Isn’t the most obvious way to make a home more affordable is to lower the price, not artificially prop it up?

I think the plan should be:
If you can’t afford your house and need to foreclose, the government will subsidize the security deposit for your rental. This way the home is marked down to market price when it is resold and no one is out on the street. 😉

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