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[quote=Blissful Ignoramus][quote=esmith]Ouch.

43880 Brookhaven backs up against the 79, but there’s also this in the same community, for 30K more:

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/33734-Pebble-Brook-Cir-92592/home/12506633

Both houses were originally sold in 2005 in high 500’s.[/quote]

What’s with the 1920s-style curved room entries? They look great in a house built in the 1920s — in these McMansions, not so much.

A lot of house for not a whole lot of money, but the fundamental issue remains: it’s Temecula. Great for retired people or people who can work from home, but there are way more houses like this than there are people with jobs a reasonable distance away. It’s logical to think that Temecula has an economic future to accommodate all of these houses, but the bubble has really screwed things up for more than just the short-term.
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A reasonable distance to you might not be a reasonable distance to others. I do work from home, but I have commuted to both Sorrento Valley and Irvine from Temecula on a regular basis and did not have a problem (I also had the luxury of timing my commute to miss traffic). There are two things I noticed regarding the commute:

1. The initial commute or occasional drive seems long and agonizing. After about a week of doing the drive, it becomes short and not too taxing (without traffic).

2. I lived in Rancho Santa Margarita for a short time and commuted to Irvine – My commute from Temecula was actually less of a burden (mainly clear driving on the 15) vs stop and go traffic through surface streets in Orange County or dealing with the 5 and 405 everyday. It was an extra 25 minutes of seat time, but it wasn’t much of a problem.

Of course my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt – I’m young and have no wife or kids at home so I can spend an hour or two a day just driving, pondering life, listening to music and enjoying the scenery.

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[quote=Blissful Ignoramus][quote=esmith]Ouch.

43880 Brookhaven backs up against the 79, but there’s also this in the same community, for 30K more:

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/33734-Pebble-Brook-Cir-92592/home/12506633

Both houses were originally sold in 2005 in high 500’s.[/quote]

What’s with the 1920s-style curved room entries? They look great in a house built in the 1920s — in these McMansions, not so much.

A lot of house for not a whole lot of money, but the fundamental issue remains: it’s Temecula. Great for retired people or people who can work from home, but there are way more houses like this than there are people with jobs a reasonable distance away. It’s logical to think that Temecula has an economic future to accommodate all of these houses, but the bubble has really screwed things up for more than just the short-term.
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A reasonable distance to you might not be a reasonable distance to others. I do work from home, but I have commuted to both Sorrento Valley and Irvine from Temecula on a regular basis and did not have a problem (I also had the luxury of timing my commute to miss traffic). There are two things I noticed regarding the commute:

1. The initial commute or occasional drive seems long and agonizing. After about a week of doing the drive, it becomes short and not too taxing (without traffic).

2. I lived in Rancho Santa Margarita for a short time and commuted to Irvine – My commute from Temecula was actually less of a burden (mainly clear driving on the 15) vs stop and go traffic through surface streets in Orange County or dealing with the 5 and 405 everyday. It was an extra 25 minutes of seat time, but it wasn’t much of a problem.

Of course my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt – I’m young and have no wife or kids at home so I can spend an hour or two a day just driving, pondering life, listening to music and enjoying the scenery.

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[quote=Blissful Ignoramus][quote=esmith]Ouch.

43880 Brookhaven backs up against the 79, but there’s also this in the same community, for 30K more:

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/33734-Pebble-Brook-Cir-92592/home/12506633

Both houses were originally sold in 2005 in high 500’s.[/quote]

What’s with the 1920s-style curved room entries? They look great in a house built in the 1920s — in these McMansions, not so much.

A lot of house for not a whole lot of money, but the fundamental issue remains: it’s Temecula. Great for retired people or people who can work from home, but there are way more houses like this than there are people with jobs a reasonable distance away. It’s logical to think that Temecula has an economic future to accommodate all of these houses, but the bubble has really screwed things up for more than just the short-term.
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A reasonable distance to you might not be a reasonable distance to others. I do work from home, but I have commuted to both Sorrento Valley and Irvine from Temecula on a regular basis and did not have a problem (I also had the luxury of timing my commute to miss traffic). There are two things I noticed regarding the commute:

1. The initial commute or occasional drive seems long and agonizing. After about a week of doing the drive, it becomes short and not too taxing (without traffic).

2. I lived in Rancho Santa Margarita for a short time and commuted to Irvine – My commute from Temecula was actually less of a burden (mainly clear driving on the 15) vs stop and go traffic through surface streets in Orange County or dealing with the 5 and 405 everyday. It was an extra 25 minutes of seat time, but it wasn’t much of a problem.

Of course my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt – I’m young and have no wife or kids at home so I can spend an hour or two a day just driving, pondering life, listening to music and enjoying the scenery.

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[quote=Blissful Ignoramus][quote=esmith]Ouch.

43880 Brookhaven backs up against the 79, but there’s also this in the same community, for 30K more:

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/33734-Pebble-Brook-Cir-92592/home/12506633

Both houses were originally sold in 2005 in high 500’s.[/quote]

What’s with the 1920s-style curved room entries? They look great in a house built in the 1920s — in these McMansions, not so much.

A lot of house for not a whole lot of money, but the fundamental issue remains: it’s Temecula. Great for retired people or people who can work from home, but there are way more houses like this than there are people with jobs a reasonable distance away. It’s logical to think that Temecula has an economic future to accommodate all of these houses, but the bubble has really screwed things up for more than just the short-term.
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A reasonable distance to you might not be a reasonable distance to others. I do work from home, but I have commuted to both Sorrento Valley and Irvine from Temecula on a regular basis and did not have a problem (I also had the luxury of timing my commute to miss traffic). There are two things I noticed regarding the commute:

1. The initial commute or occasional drive seems long and agonizing. After about a week of doing the drive, it becomes short and not too taxing (without traffic).

2. I lived in Rancho Santa Margarita for a short time and commuted to Irvine – My commute from Temecula was actually less of a burden (mainly clear driving on the 15) vs stop and go traffic through surface streets in Orange County or dealing with the 5 and 405 everyday. It was an extra 25 minutes of seat time, but it wasn’t much of a problem.

Of course my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt – I’m young and have no wife or kids at home so I can spend an hour or two a day just driving, pondering life, listening to music and enjoying the scenery.

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[quote=Blissful Ignoramus][quote=esmith]Ouch.

43880 Brookhaven backs up against the 79, but there’s also this in the same community, for 30K more:

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/33734-Pebble-Brook-Cir-92592/home/12506633

Both houses were originally sold in 2005 in high 500’s.[/quote]

What’s with the 1920s-style curved room entries? They look great in a house built in the 1920s — in these McMansions, not so much.

A lot of house for not a whole lot of money, but the fundamental issue remains: it’s Temecula. Great for retired people or people who can work from home, but there are way more houses like this than there are people with jobs a reasonable distance away. It’s logical to think that Temecula has an economic future to accommodate all of these houses, but the bubble has really screwed things up for more than just the short-term.
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A reasonable distance to you might not be a reasonable distance to others. I do work from home, but I have commuted to both Sorrento Valley and Irvine from Temecula on a regular basis and did not have a problem (I also had the luxury of timing my commute to miss traffic). There are two things I noticed regarding the commute:

1. The initial commute or occasional drive seems long and agonizing. After about a week of doing the drive, it becomes short and not too taxing (without traffic).

2. I lived in Rancho Santa Margarita for a short time and commuted to Irvine – My commute from Temecula was actually less of a burden (mainly clear driving on the 15) vs stop and go traffic through surface streets in Orange County or dealing with the 5 and 405 everyday. It was an extra 25 minutes of seat time, but it wasn’t much of a problem.

Of course my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt – I’m young and have no wife or kids at home so I can spend an hour or two a day just driving, pondering life, listening to music and enjoying the scenery.

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Thanks tg! I was just about to post a reply that basically said the same thing you did. Location is worst in the area, the development is quite disconnected from the rest of the city (even thought it is right on the edge). Access in and out is a joke.

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Thanks tg! I was just about to post a reply that basically said the same thing you did. Location is worst in the area, the development is quite disconnected from the rest of the city (even thought it is right on the edge). Access in and out is a joke.

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Thanks tg! I was just about to post a reply that basically said the same thing you did. Location is worst in the area, the development is quite disconnected from the rest of the city (even thought it is right on the edge). Access in and out is a joke.

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Thanks tg! I was just about to post a reply that basically said the same thing you did. Location is worst in the area, the development is quite disconnected from the rest of the city (even thought it is right on the edge). Access in and out is a joke.

[eclipxe]

Thanks tg! I was just about to post a reply that basically said the same thing you did. Location is worst in the area, the development is quite disconnected from the rest of the city (even thought it is right on the edge). Access in and out is a joke.

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I work for a smaller development company and we’re actively trying to hire.

I think it is important to separate general “IT” from “Software Development”. A non technology company views IT developers as a cost center, a software company views developers as a profit center and treats them as such.

Good developers (that are in the field because they view it as an art and a creative endeavor) will not have a problem finding work, even in this market. Developers that are in it to collect a pay check will struggle when faced with outsourced labor that will do it with the same lack of passion but cheaper.

There is a very interesting thread on Joel on Software where developers are discussing the current job market and desire to leave the industry. Very relevant to this thread: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.718003.14

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I work for a smaller development company and we’re actively trying to hire.

I think it is important to separate general “IT” from “Software Development”. A non technology company views IT developers as a cost center, a software company views developers as a profit center and treats them as such.

Good developers (that are in the field because they view it as an art and a creative endeavor) will not have a problem finding work, even in this market. Developers that are in it to collect a pay check will struggle when faced with outsourced labor that will do it with the same lack of passion but cheaper.

There is a very interesting thread on Joel on Software where developers are discussing the current job market and desire to leave the industry. Very relevant to this thread: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.718003.14

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I work for a smaller development company and we’re actively trying to hire.

I think it is important to separate general “IT” from “Software Development”. A non technology company views IT developers as a cost center, a software company views developers as a profit center and treats them as such.

Good developers (that are in the field because they view it as an art and a creative endeavor) will not have a problem finding work, even in this market. Developers that are in it to collect a pay check will struggle when faced with outsourced labor that will do it with the same lack of passion but cheaper.

There is a very interesting thread on Joel on Software where developers are discussing the current job market and desire to leave the industry. Very relevant to this thread: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.718003.14

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I work for a smaller development company and we’re actively trying to hire.

I think it is important to separate general “IT” from “Software Development”. A non technology company views IT developers as a cost center, a software company views developers as a profit center and treats them as such.

Good developers (that are in the field because they view it as an art and a creative endeavor) will not have a problem finding work, even in this market. Developers that are in it to collect a pay check will struggle when faced with outsourced labor that will do it with the same lack of passion but cheaper.

There is a very interesting thread on Joel on Software where developers are discussing the current job market and desire to leave the industry. Very relevant to this thread: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.718003.14

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I work for a smaller development company and we’re actively trying to hire.

I think it is important to separate general “IT” from “Software Development”. A non technology company views IT developers as a cost center, a software company views developers as a profit center and treats them as such.

Good developers (that are in the field because they view it as an art and a creative endeavor) will not have a problem finding work, even in this market. Developers that are in it to collect a pay check will struggle when faced with outsourced labor that will do it with the same lack of passion but cheaper.

There is a very interesting thread on Joel on Software where developers are discussing the current job market and desire to leave the industry. Very relevant to this thread: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.718003.14

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