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[quote=GoUSC]Of course we shouldn’t get involved in the issues of other countries…

I mean it’s not like…

1. A bunch of guys flew planes into two buildings in New York.

2. Or blew up a bunch of trains in Spain.

3. Or just today said if they got Pakistan’s nuclear weapons they would use them against us.

4. Or are trying to acquire nuclear weapons and plan to fire a ballistic missile towards Hawaii.

Of course not. If we just stick our heads in the sand and don’t activity take a roll in the world today all of these problems will go away.

I mean afterall we should all behave like Neville Chamberlain. That really worked out well for Europe.

The naivity of people never ceases to amaze me.

Look I am no surpport of George Bush. He did plenty wrong. But Obama is trying to use the current situation to push through a huge program of increase government spending and doing it at a time when everybody is more worried about paying their bills then focusing on what Washington is doing.

We *CANNOT* run ourselves in tens of trillions of dollars of debt and expect it to work.

With all that said I think everyone in DC doesn’t give a crap about us and that being a politician has become more about getting re-elected than serving the country.[/quote]

Dont bother trying to bring this kinda stuff up in a thread like this. That isnt the point of a thread like this. The point of a thread like this is to blow off steam, fingerpoint, get angry, insult “them” and their “lack of understanding or leadership”, and get those who agree with you to reinforce your views. Same as the threads it rails against. It is differenton in target of the furry only.

Hopefully these threads serve the purpose that people can then speak civially on othter threads and actually exchange ideas and reason together.

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[quote=GoUSC]Of course we shouldn’t get involved in the issues of other countries…

I mean it’s not like…

1. A bunch of guys flew planes into two buildings in New York.

2. Or blew up a bunch of trains in Spain.

3. Or just today said if they got Pakistan’s nuclear weapons they would use them against us.

4. Or are trying to acquire nuclear weapons and plan to fire a ballistic missile towards Hawaii.

Of course not. If we just stick our heads in the sand and don’t activity take a roll in the world today all of these problems will go away.

I mean afterall we should all behave like Neville Chamberlain. That really worked out well for Europe.

The naivity of people never ceases to amaze me.

Look I am no surpport of George Bush. He did plenty wrong. But Obama is trying to use the current situation to push through a huge program of increase government spending and doing it at a time when everybody is more worried about paying their bills then focusing on what Washington is doing.

We *CANNOT* run ourselves in tens of trillions of dollars of debt and expect it to work.

With all that said I think everyone in DC doesn’t give a crap about us and that being a politician has become more about getting re-elected than serving the country.[/quote]

Dont bother trying to bring this kinda stuff up in a thread like this. That isnt the point of a thread like this. The point of a thread like this is to blow off steam, fingerpoint, get angry, insult “them” and their “lack of understanding or leadership”, and get those who agree with you to reinforce your views. Same as the threads it rails against. It is differenton in target of the furry only.

Hopefully these threads serve the purpose that people can then speak civially on othter threads and actually exchange ideas and reason together.

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I dont know TG, I am sure you could find a few vampires only a few hundred miles north. Sacramento isnt that far away and they have a great ability to suck to life right out of you. They are nothing compared to Washington, but that is 3000 miles away, and Seattle is alot closer than that!

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I dont know TG, I am sure you could find a few vampires only a few hundred miles north. Sacramento isnt that far away and they have a great ability to suck to life right out of you. They are nothing compared to Washington, but that is 3000 miles away, and Seattle is alot closer than that!

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I dont know TG, I am sure you could find a few vampires only a few hundred miles north. Sacramento isnt that far away and they have a great ability to suck to life right out of you. They are nothing compared to Washington, but that is 3000 miles away, and Seattle is alot closer than that!

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I dont know TG, I am sure you could find a few vampires only a few hundred miles north. Sacramento isnt that far away and they have a great ability to suck to life right out of you. They are nothing compared to Washington, but that is 3000 miles away, and Seattle is alot closer than that!

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I dont know TG, I am sure you could find a few vampires only a few hundred miles north. Sacramento isnt that far away and they have a great ability to suck to life right out of you. They are nothing compared to Washington, but that is 3000 miles away, and Seattle is alot closer than that!

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[quote=sd_bear][quote=DWCAP]The thing that has the ‘experts’ worried (other than a repeat of the spanish flu) is that it is killing young people. We have had what, 9 people die of swine flu in the USA? We usually have something like 35000 people die each year of the normal flu, seems kinda off right?

Well the problem is that the ‘normal’ flu kills or sickens the most vunerable. The very young, very old, or the very sick. This one is killing the healthy people, the 20 year olds who very rarely die of something like the flu. [/quote]

I don’t necessarily buy this. The vast majority of the swine flu deaths have been the very young and the very old. Every single death I’ve read about (in the US) that was someone of normal/healthy age there was an underlying medical condition involved, with the exception this new 20 year old. Though very limited information has been released so far and I would be surprised if there wasn’t some other medical condition present.[/quote]

Everyone has a underlying condition that can be cited. No one is perfectly healthy. Your average 30-40 year old is probly alittle over-weight, has elevated blood pressure, often the beginning of liver issues due to excessive alcohol consumption, etc etc.

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[quote=sd_bear][quote=DWCAP]The thing that has the ‘experts’ worried (other than a repeat of the spanish flu) is that it is killing young people. We have had what, 9 people die of swine flu in the USA? We usually have something like 35000 people die each year of the normal flu, seems kinda off right?

Well the problem is that the ‘normal’ flu kills or sickens the most vunerable. The very young, very old, or the very sick. This one is killing the healthy people, the 20 year olds who very rarely die of something like the flu. [/quote]

I don’t necessarily buy this. The vast majority of the swine flu deaths have been the very young and the very old. Every single death I’ve read about (in the US) that was someone of normal/healthy age there was an underlying medical condition involved, with the exception this new 20 year old. Though very limited information has been released so far and I would be surprised if there wasn’t some other medical condition present.[/quote]

Everyone has a underlying condition that can be cited. No one is perfectly healthy. Your average 30-40 year old is probly alittle over-weight, has elevated blood pressure, often the beginning of liver issues due to excessive alcohol consumption, etc etc.

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[quote=sd_bear][quote=DWCAP]The thing that has the ‘experts’ worried (other than a repeat of the spanish flu) is that it is killing young people. We have had what, 9 people die of swine flu in the USA? We usually have something like 35000 people die each year of the normal flu, seems kinda off right?

Well the problem is that the ‘normal’ flu kills or sickens the most vunerable. The very young, very old, or the very sick. This one is killing the healthy people, the 20 year olds who very rarely die of something like the flu. [/quote]

I don’t necessarily buy this. The vast majority of the swine flu deaths have been the very young and the very old. Every single death I’ve read about (in the US) that was someone of normal/healthy age there was an underlying medical condition involved, with the exception this new 20 year old. Though very limited information has been released so far and I would be surprised if there wasn’t some other medical condition present.[/quote]

Everyone has a underlying condition that can be cited. No one is perfectly healthy. Your average 30-40 year old is probly alittle over-weight, has elevated blood pressure, often the beginning of liver issues due to excessive alcohol consumption, etc etc.

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[quote=sd_bear][quote=DWCAP]The thing that has the ‘experts’ worried (other than a repeat of the spanish flu) is that it is killing young people. We have had what, 9 people die of swine flu in the USA? We usually have something like 35000 people die each year of the normal flu, seems kinda off right?

Well the problem is that the ‘normal’ flu kills or sickens the most vunerable. The very young, very old, or the very sick. This one is killing the healthy people, the 20 year olds who very rarely die of something like the flu. [/quote]

I don’t necessarily buy this. The vast majority of the swine flu deaths have been the very young and the very old. Every single death I’ve read about (in the US) that was someone of normal/healthy age there was an underlying medical condition involved, with the exception this new 20 year old. Though very limited information has been released so far and I would be surprised if there wasn’t some other medical condition present.[/quote]

Everyone has a underlying condition that can be cited. No one is perfectly healthy. Your average 30-40 year old is probly alittle over-weight, has elevated blood pressure, often the beginning of liver issues due to excessive alcohol consumption, etc etc.

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[quote=sd_bear][quote=DWCAP]The thing that has the ‘experts’ worried (other than a repeat of the spanish flu) is that it is killing young people. We have had what, 9 people die of swine flu in the USA? We usually have something like 35000 people die each year of the normal flu, seems kinda off right?

Well the problem is that the ‘normal’ flu kills or sickens the most vunerable. The very young, very old, or the very sick. This one is killing the healthy people, the 20 year olds who very rarely die of something like the flu. [/quote]

I don’t necessarily buy this. The vast majority of the swine flu deaths have been the very young and the very old. Every single death I’ve read about (in the US) that was someone of normal/healthy age there was an underlying medical condition involved, with the exception this new 20 year old. Though very limited information has been released so far and I would be surprised if there wasn’t some other medical condition present.[/quote]

Everyone has a underlying condition that can be cited. No one is perfectly healthy. Your average 30-40 year old is probly alittle over-weight, has elevated blood pressure, often the beginning of liver issues due to excessive alcohol consumption, etc etc.

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wow, ok, behind the times, it is 340 dead. But the statement that this isnt that bad (yet) still stands.

and arraya, please dont take this as me disagreeing with you. It is something society needs to work on, and the similarity to the 1918 outbreak is chilling. But having the populace so scared that the run to the hospitals every time they sneeze isnt gonna help control a pandemic.

Plus this time we have anti-virals and they work on this bug. What scares me is when a disease that is resistant to our meds hits.

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wow, ok, behind the times, it is 340 dead. But the statement that this isnt that bad (yet) still stands.

and arraya, please dont take this as me disagreeing with you. It is something society needs to work on, and the similarity to the 1918 outbreak is chilling. But having the populace so scared that the run to the hospitals every time they sneeze isnt gonna help control a pandemic.

Plus this time we have anti-virals and they work on this bug. What scares me is when a disease that is resistant to our meds hits.

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wow, ok, behind the times, it is 340 dead. But the statement that this isnt that bad (yet) still stands.

and arraya, please dont take this as me disagreeing with you. It is something society needs to work on, and the similarity to the 1918 outbreak is chilling. But having the populace so scared that the run to the hospitals every time they sneeze isnt gonna help control a pandemic.

Plus this time we have anti-virals and they work on this bug. What scares me is when a disease that is resistant to our meds hits.

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