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And with our gerrymandered districts, there will always be a large sympathy vote. Better to vote for the dead guy outa respect and later on elect his party line successor in the special election then it would be to elect the _____(insert opposing political party here)______ Ahole who is secretly/Openly (circle one) trying to destroy America.

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And with our gerrymandered districts, there will always be a large sympathy vote. Better to vote for the dead guy outa respect and later on elect his party line successor in the special election then it would be to elect the _____(insert opposing political party here)______ Ahole who is secretly/Openly (circle one) trying to destroy America.

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To me, saying ‘please fill this out and mail it back to me’ is a command. Regardless of the ‘please’ infront, you are telling someone else what to do. Now it is a nice way of doing it, and may in all reality be totally appropriate for the situtation. But it is still a command. (And, as always, tone can make that polite ‘please’ into a sarcastic point and not nice at all, but it is still a command)

A non-commmand way of saying it would be something more like ‘Would you please fill out this form and mail it back to me’. Two more words, but now it is a question and the person being asked has a choice.

ie, “No, ill just drop it off tomorow.” This is an answer to the question, but not following the command.

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To me, saying ‘please fill this out and mail it back to me’ is a command. Regardless of the ‘please’ infront, you are telling someone else what to do. Now it is a nice way of doing it, and may in all reality be totally appropriate for the situtation. But it is still a command. (And, as always, tone can make that polite ‘please’ into a sarcastic point and not nice at all, but it is still a command)

A non-commmand way of saying it would be something more like ‘Would you please fill out this form and mail it back to me’. Two more words, but now it is a question and the person being asked has a choice.

ie, “No, ill just drop it off tomorow.” This is an answer to the question, but not following the command.

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To me, saying ‘please fill this out and mail it back to me’ is a command. Regardless of the ‘please’ infront, you are telling someone else what to do. Now it is a nice way of doing it, and may in all reality be totally appropriate for the situtation. But it is still a command. (And, as always, tone can make that polite ‘please’ into a sarcastic point and not nice at all, but it is still a command)

A non-commmand way of saying it would be something more like ‘Would you please fill out this form and mail it back to me’. Two more words, but now it is a question and the person being asked has a choice.

ie, “No, ill just drop it off tomorow.” This is an answer to the question, but not following the command.

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To me, saying ‘please fill this out and mail it back to me’ is a command. Regardless of the ‘please’ infront, you are telling someone else what to do. Now it is a nice way of doing it, and may in all reality be totally appropriate for the situtation. But it is still a command. (And, as always, tone can make that polite ‘please’ into a sarcastic point and not nice at all, but it is still a command)

A non-commmand way of saying it would be something more like ‘Would you please fill out this form and mail it back to me’. Two more words, but now it is a question and the person being asked has a choice.

ie, “No, ill just drop it off tomorow.” This is an answer to the question, but not following the command.

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To me, saying ‘please fill this out and mail it back to me’ is a command. Regardless of the ‘please’ infront, you are telling someone else what to do. Now it is a nice way of doing it, and may in all reality be totally appropriate for the situtation. But it is still a command. (And, as always, tone can make that polite ‘please’ into a sarcastic point and not nice at all, but it is still a command)

A non-commmand way of saying it would be something more like ‘Would you please fill out this form and mail it back to me’. Two more words, but now it is a question and the person being asked has a choice.

ie, “No, ill just drop it off tomorow.” This is an answer to the question, but not following the command.

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My big problem with the baker argument about the counterfitter saving the US economy comes at the end.

[Quote]But the interesting part of the counterfeiter story is that his $2tn of phony money will not create problems even in the long run, assuming that he is eventually shut down. Suppose that the counterfeiter’s lavish spending gets the economy back towards full employment around 2012, at which point he gets nailed by the FBI who finally figure out how to recognise the dud notes.

At that point, the $2tn will be grabbed out of circulation and destroyed. Assuming that the economy is strong enough at this point to remain near full employment even as this counterfeit wealth disappears, then there would be no lasting damage from the episode. [/Quote]

Bullshit. All those formerly unemployeed maids and drivers and home builders and lavish car care specilists and investment advisors all get fired as soon as the FBI figues it out. Then all the employeed are unemployeed again, except this time with skills (how many expert 5star party planners or luxery car maintaince workers do we need???) that the economy doesnt really need. Not to mention all the luxery cars and houses that have little demand but already exist, weighing on future supply/ prices. We go right back into a recession that we were trying to get out of. Maybe we get two less shallow recessions than one really deep one, but there is no way, even at full employment, that the economy could withstand the shock of the withdrawl of the level of stimulus needed to get out of this recession/slowdown, without some pretty major disruptions.

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My big problem with the baker argument about the counterfitter saving the US economy comes at the end.

[Quote]But the interesting part of the counterfeiter story is that his $2tn of phony money will not create problems even in the long run, assuming that he is eventually shut down. Suppose that the counterfeiter’s lavish spending gets the economy back towards full employment around 2012, at which point he gets nailed by the FBI who finally figure out how to recognise the dud notes.

At that point, the $2tn will be grabbed out of circulation and destroyed. Assuming that the economy is strong enough at this point to remain near full employment even as this counterfeit wealth disappears, then there would be no lasting damage from the episode. [/Quote]

Bullshit. All those formerly unemployeed maids and drivers and home builders and lavish car care specilists and investment advisors all get fired as soon as the FBI figues it out. Then all the employeed are unemployeed again, except this time with skills (how many expert 5star party planners or luxery car maintaince workers do we need???) that the economy doesnt really need. Not to mention all the luxery cars and houses that have little demand but already exist, weighing on future supply/ prices. We go right back into a recession that we were trying to get out of. Maybe we get two less shallow recessions than one really deep one, but there is no way, even at full employment, that the economy could withstand the shock of the withdrawl of the level of stimulus needed to get out of this recession/slowdown, without some pretty major disruptions.

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My big problem with the baker argument about the counterfitter saving the US economy comes at the end.

[Quote]But the interesting part of the counterfeiter story is that his $2tn of phony money will not create problems even in the long run, assuming that he is eventually shut down. Suppose that the counterfeiter’s lavish spending gets the economy back towards full employment around 2012, at which point he gets nailed by the FBI who finally figure out how to recognise the dud notes.

At that point, the $2tn will be grabbed out of circulation and destroyed. Assuming that the economy is strong enough at this point to remain near full employment even as this counterfeit wealth disappears, then there would be no lasting damage from the episode. [/Quote]

Bullshit. All those formerly unemployeed maids and drivers and home builders and lavish car care specilists and investment advisors all get fired as soon as the FBI figues it out. Then all the employeed are unemployeed again, except this time with skills (how many expert 5star party planners or luxery car maintaince workers do we need???) that the economy doesnt really need. Not to mention all the luxery cars and houses that have little demand but already exist, weighing on future supply/ prices. We go right back into a recession that we were trying to get out of. Maybe we get two less shallow recessions than one really deep one, but there is no way, even at full employment, that the economy could withstand the shock of the withdrawl of the level of stimulus needed to get out of this recession/slowdown, without some pretty major disruptions.

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My big problem with the baker argument about the counterfitter saving the US economy comes at the end.

[Quote]But the interesting part of the counterfeiter story is that his $2tn of phony money will not create problems even in the long run, assuming that he is eventually shut down. Suppose that the counterfeiter’s lavish spending gets the economy back towards full employment around 2012, at which point he gets nailed by the FBI who finally figure out how to recognise the dud notes.

At that point, the $2tn will be grabbed out of circulation and destroyed. Assuming that the economy is strong enough at this point to remain near full employment even as this counterfeit wealth disappears, then there would be no lasting damage from the episode. [/Quote]

Bullshit. All those formerly unemployeed maids and drivers and home builders and lavish car care specilists and investment advisors all get fired as soon as the FBI figues it out. Then all the employeed are unemployeed again, except this time with skills (how many expert 5star party planners or luxery car maintaince workers do we need???) that the economy doesnt really need. Not to mention all the luxery cars and houses that have little demand but already exist, weighing on future supply/ prices. We go right back into a recession that we were trying to get out of. Maybe we get two less shallow recessions than one really deep one, but there is no way, even at full employment, that the economy could withstand the shock of the withdrawl of the level of stimulus needed to get out of this recession/slowdown, without some pretty major disruptions.

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My big problem with the baker argument about the counterfitter saving the US economy comes at the end.

[Quote]But the interesting part of the counterfeiter story is that his $2tn of phony money will not create problems even in the long run, assuming that he is eventually shut down. Suppose that the counterfeiter’s lavish spending gets the economy back towards full employment around 2012, at which point he gets nailed by the FBI who finally figure out how to recognise the dud notes.

At that point, the $2tn will be grabbed out of circulation and destroyed. Assuming that the economy is strong enough at this point to remain near full employment even as this counterfeit wealth disappears, then there would be no lasting damage from the episode. [/Quote]

Bullshit. All those formerly unemployeed maids and drivers and home builders and lavish car care specilists and investment advisors all get fired as soon as the FBI figues it out. Then all the employeed are unemployeed again, except this time with skills (how many expert 5star party planners or luxery car maintaince workers do we need???) that the economy doesnt really need. Not to mention all the luxery cars and houses that have little demand but already exist, weighing on future supply/ prices. We go right back into a recession that we were trying to get out of. Maybe we get two less shallow recessions than one really deep one, but there is no way, even at full employment, that the economy could withstand the shock of the withdrawl of the level of stimulus needed to get out of this recession/slowdown, without some pretty major disruptions.

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Here is the real red flag for me, even more so than the ‘need imporovement’ credit (685) or the low down:
You dont live here yet, and own a house somewhere else?

This should have been disclosed in the OP, because it is a huge fact to me. San Diego is a VERY diverse city, and I would advise ANYONE moving here for the first time to rent. I dont care if you are Bill Freakin Gates, RENT YOUR FIRST HOUSE. You will not know where you want to be, and what kind of lifestyle you want/can afford until you are here. The housing, the noise, the weather, the people, the social scene, the activites, they are all so different.

Find what you want, then optimize it to what you can afford, and live the happy median. SD housing prices are stagnant or falling currently, interest rates are low, and going down. Rents are not skyrocketing. There is no possible reason you NEED to buy a house, in a city you dont currently live in, in the next 6-12 months. (unless someone else is paying the tab for you, which again is a fact needed in the OP)

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Here is the real red flag for me, even more so than the ‘need imporovement’ credit (685) or the low down:
You dont live here yet, and own a house somewhere else?

This should have been disclosed in the OP, because it is a huge fact to me. San Diego is a VERY diverse city, and I would advise ANYONE moving here for the first time to rent. I dont care if you are Bill Freakin Gates, RENT YOUR FIRST HOUSE. You will not know where you want to be, and what kind of lifestyle you want/can afford until you are here. The housing, the noise, the weather, the people, the social scene, the activites, they are all so different.

Find what you want, then optimize it to what you can afford, and live the happy median. SD housing prices are stagnant or falling currently, interest rates are low, and going down. Rents are not skyrocketing. There is no possible reason you NEED to buy a house, in a city you dont currently live in, in the next 6-12 months. (unless someone else is paying the tab for you, which again is a fact needed in the OP)

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Here is the real red flag for me, even more so than the ‘need imporovement’ credit (685) or the low down:
You dont live here yet, and own a house somewhere else?

This should have been disclosed in the OP, because it is a huge fact to me. San Diego is a VERY diverse city, and I would advise ANYONE moving here for the first time to rent. I dont care if you are Bill Freakin Gates, RENT YOUR FIRST HOUSE. You will not know where you want to be, and what kind of lifestyle you want/can afford until you are here. The housing, the noise, the weather, the people, the social scene, the activites, they are all so different.

Find what you want, then optimize it to what you can afford, and live the happy median. SD housing prices are stagnant or falling currently, interest rates are low, and going down. Rents are not skyrocketing. There is no possible reason you NEED to buy a house, in a city you dont currently live in, in the next 6-12 months. (unless someone else is paying the tab for you, which again is a fact needed in the OP)

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