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Is this true even for ones that you buy that have a plethora of fruit already on them? I’ve seen ones at the big drive-in nursery in Oceanside that are teaming with fruit and if I buy again, I was going to go that route!

The 1st one I had was a baby from a neighbor who has a good producing tree. I gave up on it after 4 years (I had a friend’s dad who had a mini avocado grove in Fallbrook look at it and he said it was a “donkey”). The 2nd one I bought and it died. This 3rd one I think I’ve had 3 years. It’s never looked great but now it has a grape sized avocado on it. I know I’m not in an ideal place to grow avocados but my neighbor’s does well so I’m still hoping. :)[/quote]

Most of those are really greenhouse steriod kings that will prob crap out on you the next year. It takes a year or so to grow an avacado fruit, but it can be kept on the tree for 6 months or more without rotting. Watch out for the ones with fruit AND flowers on it. You think “WOW look how productive”, when in reality all it means is that they didnt pick last years fruit and ‘roided’ it up in a greenhouse before you see it. It is very common for trees to have alternating years, so if you buy a ‘roided’ tree, it could easily take 2 years before you really see much more fruit than what you bought.
Also, a mature tree you see out in fallbrook or something with perfect care will only produce 500-700 fruit. Some people claim more, but I grew up on a avacado orchard for a while, and we NEVER did better than 700 or so. And that is in Santa Barbara where we get alot more rain.

Plant a Hass, it is the tree for California. You can get alot of other kinds, but dont bother. THey want more water and warmer nights than CA has to offer.

One other thing. Avacados dont make good parents. It is common for seedlings to produce nothing, or to produce weird fruit. Your ‘donkey’ is along the same lines. The trees you buy from the nursery have been grafted with another high quality tree’s branches to produce the fruit you recognize. If you are growing a tree from the pits of an avacado you bought from the store, you are running REALLY high odds of getting a beautiful tree that doesnt produce anything.

As to where you are cbad, there is nothing wrong with NCC coastal for avacados. Just be sure they get enough water, deep waterings too (not just a bucket or two, and keep them out of the wind. Avacados hate wind. It drys them out and destroys their flowers/early fruit. Dig in some tree fertilizer in the early winter too.

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Is this true even for ones that you buy that have a plethora of fruit already on them? I’ve seen ones at the big drive-in nursery in Oceanside that are teaming with fruit and if I buy again, I was going to go that route!

The 1st one I had was a baby from a neighbor who has a good producing tree. I gave up on it after 4 years (I had a friend’s dad who had a mini avocado grove in Fallbrook look at it and he said it was a “donkey”). The 2nd one I bought and it died. This 3rd one I think I’ve had 3 years. It’s never looked great but now it has a grape sized avocado on it. I know I’m not in an ideal place to grow avocados but my neighbor’s does well so I’m still hoping. :)[/quote]

Most of those are really greenhouse steriod kings that will prob crap out on you the next year. It takes a year or so to grow an avacado fruit, but it can be kept on the tree for 6 months or more without rotting. Watch out for the ones with fruit AND flowers on it. You think “WOW look how productive”, when in reality all it means is that they didnt pick last years fruit and ‘roided’ it up in a greenhouse before you see it. It is very common for trees to have alternating years, so if you buy a ‘roided’ tree, it could easily take 2 years before you really see much more fruit than what you bought.
Also, a mature tree you see out in fallbrook or something with perfect care will only produce 500-700 fruit. Some people claim more, but I grew up on a avacado orchard for a while, and we NEVER did better than 700 or so. And that is in Santa Barbara where we get alot more rain.

Plant a Hass, it is the tree for California. You can get alot of other kinds, but dont bother. THey want more water and warmer nights than CA has to offer.

One other thing. Avacados dont make good parents. It is common for seedlings to produce nothing, or to produce weird fruit. Your ‘donkey’ is along the same lines. The trees you buy from the nursery have been grafted with another high quality tree’s branches to produce the fruit you recognize. If you are growing a tree from the pits of an avacado you bought from the store, you are running REALLY high odds of getting a beautiful tree that doesnt produce anything.

As to where you are cbad, there is nothing wrong with NCC coastal for avacados. Just be sure they get enough water, deep waterings too (not just a bucket or two, and keep them out of the wind. Avacados hate wind. It drys them out and destroys their flowers/early fruit. Dig in some tree fertilizer in the early winter too.

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I use to have a subscription to Newsweek, and actually paid for it. I liked it. The analysis and reporting was really good, and they told a much deeper story than the newspaper did.

Then they decided to go another direction and all their pieces were opinion pieces. The only ‘conservative’ voice was a guy best described as ‘libertarian’ and I started noticing that they were more arguing for or against something rather than actually reporting anything. I couldnt figure out what was going on till I read an article about it, that it was a conscience decision and was backfiring on them. I had just cancelled my subscription because it wasnt what I had paid for anymore. I am perfectly able to make my own decisions, given that I have enough facts. I was paying them for well organized and diverse facts. I was not paying them for biased and narrow opinions.

I now subscribe to TIME, as that seems to be the last bastion of ‘paying for facts’, even if it isnt as good at it as Newsweek use to be.I dont mind paying for quality reporting, but the problem is that the quality disappeared long before I stopped paying.

The UT is just a disaster on paper. Their reporting in the buisness section is just terrible. They have turned themselves into a mouthpiece for their advertisers (real estate) and I personally dont like to pay for advertising.

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I use to have a subscription to Newsweek, and actually paid for it. I liked it. The analysis and reporting was really good, and they told a much deeper story than the newspaper did.

Then they decided to go another direction and all their pieces were opinion pieces. The only ‘conservative’ voice was a guy best described as ‘libertarian’ and I started noticing that they were more arguing for or against something rather than actually reporting anything. I couldnt figure out what was going on till I read an article about it, that it was a conscience decision and was backfiring on them. I had just cancelled my subscription because it wasnt what I had paid for anymore. I am perfectly able to make my own decisions, given that I have enough facts. I was paying them for well organized and diverse facts. I was not paying them for biased and narrow opinions.

I now subscribe to TIME, as that seems to be the last bastion of ‘paying for facts’, even if it isnt as good at it as Newsweek use to be.I dont mind paying for quality reporting, but the problem is that the quality disappeared long before I stopped paying.

The UT is just a disaster on paper. Their reporting in the buisness section is just terrible. They have turned themselves into a mouthpiece for their advertisers (real estate) and I personally dont like to pay for advertising.

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I use to have a subscription to Newsweek, and actually paid for it. I liked it. The analysis and reporting was really good, and they told a much deeper story than the newspaper did.

Then they decided to go another direction and all their pieces were opinion pieces. The only ‘conservative’ voice was a guy best described as ‘libertarian’ and I started noticing that they were more arguing for or against something rather than actually reporting anything. I couldnt figure out what was going on till I read an article about it, that it was a conscience decision and was backfiring on them. I had just cancelled my subscription because it wasnt what I had paid for anymore. I am perfectly able to make my own decisions, given that I have enough facts. I was paying them for well organized and diverse facts. I was not paying them for biased and narrow opinions.

I now subscribe to TIME, as that seems to be the last bastion of ‘paying for facts’, even if it isnt as good at it as Newsweek use to be.I dont mind paying for quality reporting, but the problem is that the quality disappeared long before I stopped paying.

The UT is just a disaster on paper. Their reporting in the buisness section is just terrible. They have turned themselves into a mouthpiece for their advertisers (real estate) and I personally dont like to pay for advertising.

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I use to have a subscription to Newsweek, and actually paid for it. I liked it. The analysis and reporting was really good, and they told a much deeper story than the newspaper did.

Then they decided to go another direction and all their pieces were opinion pieces. The only ‘conservative’ voice was a guy best described as ‘libertarian’ and I started noticing that they were more arguing for or against something rather than actually reporting anything. I couldnt figure out what was going on till I read an article about it, that it was a conscience decision and was backfiring on them. I had just cancelled my subscription because it wasnt what I had paid for anymore. I am perfectly able to make my own decisions, given that I have enough facts. I was paying them for well organized and diverse facts. I was not paying them for biased and narrow opinions.

I now subscribe to TIME, as that seems to be the last bastion of ‘paying for facts’, even if it isnt as good at it as Newsweek use to be.I dont mind paying for quality reporting, but the problem is that the quality disappeared long before I stopped paying.

The UT is just a disaster on paper. Their reporting in the buisness section is just terrible. They have turned themselves into a mouthpiece for their advertisers (real estate) and I personally dont like to pay for advertising.

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I use to have a subscription to Newsweek, and actually paid for it. I liked it. The analysis and reporting was really good, and they told a much deeper story than the newspaper did.

Then they decided to go another direction and all their pieces were opinion pieces. The only ‘conservative’ voice was a guy best described as ‘libertarian’ and I started noticing that they were more arguing for or against something rather than actually reporting anything. I couldnt figure out what was going on till I read an article about it, that it was a conscience decision and was backfiring on them. I had just cancelled my subscription because it wasnt what I had paid for anymore. I am perfectly able to make my own decisions, given that I have enough facts. I was paying them for well organized and diverse facts. I was not paying them for biased and narrow opinions.

I now subscribe to TIME, as that seems to be the last bastion of ‘paying for facts’, even if it isnt as good at it as Newsweek use to be.I dont mind paying for quality reporting, but the problem is that the quality disappeared long before I stopped paying.

The UT is just a disaster on paper. Their reporting in the buisness section is just terrible. They have turned themselves into a mouthpiece for their advertisers (real estate) and I personally dont like to pay for advertising.

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I’m on my 3rd avocado tree and was about to pull this one out and buy the 4th but there is one tiny avocado on it right now!
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Any avacado tree will take between 3-4 years to start producing fruit. Even then, it will take 2-4 years after that to get any real yeild. That is assuming you have the correct soil/water for it.

Tough little buggers.

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I’m on my 3rd avocado tree and was about to pull this one out and buy the 4th but there is one tiny avocado on it right now!
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Any avacado tree will take between 3-4 years to start producing fruit. Even then, it will take 2-4 years after that to get any real yeild. That is assuming you have the correct soil/water for it.

Tough little buggers.

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I’m on my 3rd avocado tree and was about to pull this one out and buy the 4th but there is one tiny avocado on it right now!
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Any avacado tree will take between 3-4 years to start producing fruit. Even then, it will take 2-4 years after that to get any real yeild. That is assuming you have the correct soil/water for it.

Tough little buggers.

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I’m on my 3rd avocado tree and was about to pull this one out and buy the 4th but there is one tiny avocado on it right now!
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Any avacado tree will take between 3-4 years to start producing fruit. Even then, it will take 2-4 years after that to get any real yeild. That is assuming you have the correct soil/water for it.

Tough little buggers.

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I’m on my 3rd avocado tree and was about to pull this one out and buy the 4th but there is one tiny avocado on it right now!
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Any avacado tree will take between 3-4 years to start producing fruit. Even then, it will take 2-4 years after that to get any real yeild. That is assuming you have the correct soil/water for it.

Tough little buggers.

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Oh, also, as to the ‘aid to the jobless’ part. Numerous studies have shown that after a few weeks, unemployment compensation actually INCREASES unemployment rather than helps reduce it. If people can they will extend painful decisions like going back to school, moving, or taking jobs with lower pay. As such, they dont move on and become more and more unemployable as time passes and they delay the pain.
Those senators voted to stop giving more than 2 years of unemployment. 2 years. At some point we need to admit that they need to make some kinda change.

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Oh, also, as to the ‘aid to the jobless’ part. Numerous studies have shown that after a few weeks, unemployment compensation actually INCREASES unemployment rather than helps reduce it. If people can they will extend painful decisions like going back to school, moving, or taking jobs with lower pay. As such, they dont move on and become more and more unemployable as time passes and they delay the pain.
Those senators voted to stop giving more than 2 years of unemployment. 2 years. At some point we need to admit that they need to make some kinda change.

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Oh, also, as to the ‘aid to the jobless’ part. Numerous studies have shown that after a few weeks, unemployment compensation actually INCREASES unemployment rather than helps reduce it. If people can they will extend painful decisions like going back to school, moving, or taking jobs with lower pay. As such, they dont move on and become more and more unemployable as time passes and they delay the pain.
Those senators voted to stop giving more than 2 years of unemployment. 2 years. At some point we need to admit that they need to make some kinda change.

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