OT: How about those Union Tribune Layoffs?

[Coronita]

[quote=eavesdropper]

They don’t…One of the nice redeeming factors of Citibank, is their “virtual card numbers”. I never use my real CC number on the internet or any over the phone purchase. I always just generate a virtual card number with a preset limit and expiration date, just in case the merchant gets happy and tries me to overbill me after a subscription “ends”.

[DWCAP]

I use to have a subscription to Newsweek, and actually paid for it. I liked it. The analysis and reporting was really good, and they told a much deeper story than the newspaper did.

Then they decided to go another direction and all their pieces were opinion pieces. The only ‘conservative’ voice was a guy best described as ‘libertarian’ and I started noticing that they were more arguing for or against something rather than actually reporting anything. I couldnt figure out what was going on till I read an article about it, that it was a conscience decision and was backfiring on them. I had just cancelled my subscription because it wasnt what I had paid for anymore. I am perfectly able to make my own decisions, given that I have enough facts. I was paying them for well organized and diverse facts. I was not paying them for biased and narrow opinions.

I now subscribe to TIME, as that seems to be the last bastion of ‘paying for facts’, even if it isnt as good at it as Newsweek use to be.I dont mind paying for quality reporting, but the problem is that the quality disappeared long before I stopped paying.

The UT is just a disaster on paper. Their reporting in the buisness section is just terrible. They have turned themselves into a mouthpiece for their advertisers (real estate) and I personally dont like to pay for advertising.

[DWCAP]

I use to have a subscription to Newsweek, and actually paid for it. I liked it. The analysis and reporting was really good, and they told a much deeper story than the newspaper did.

Then they decided to go another direction and all their pieces were opinion pieces. The only ‘conservative’ voice was a guy best described as ‘libertarian’ and I started noticing that they were more arguing for or against something rather than actually reporting anything. I couldnt figure out what was going on till I read an article about it, that it was a conscience decision and was backfiring on them. I had just cancelled my subscription because it wasnt what I had paid for anymore. I am perfectly able to make my own decisions, given that I have enough facts. I was paying them for well organized and diverse facts. I was not paying them for biased and narrow opinions.

I now subscribe to TIME, as that seems to be the last bastion of ‘paying for facts’, even if it isnt as good at it as Newsweek use to be.I dont mind paying for quality reporting, but the problem is that the quality disappeared long before I stopped paying.

The UT is just a disaster on paper. Their reporting in the buisness section is just terrible. They have turned themselves into a mouthpiece for their advertisers (real estate) and I personally dont like to pay for advertising.

[DWCAP]

I use to have a subscription to Newsweek, and actually paid for it. I liked it. The analysis and reporting was really good, and they told a much deeper story than the newspaper did.

Then they decided to go another direction and all their pieces were opinion pieces. The only ‘conservative’ voice was a guy best described as ‘libertarian’ and I started noticing that they were more arguing for or against something rather than actually reporting anything. I couldnt figure out what was going on till I read an article about it, that it was a conscience decision and was backfiring on them. I had just cancelled my subscription because it wasnt what I had paid for anymore. I am perfectly able to make my own decisions, given that I have enough facts. I was paying them for well organized and diverse facts. I was not paying them for biased and narrow opinions.

I now subscribe to TIME, as that seems to be the last bastion of ‘paying for facts’, even if it isnt as good at it as Newsweek use to be.I dont mind paying for quality reporting, but the problem is that the quality disappeared long before I stopped paying.

The UT is just a disaster on paper. Their reporting in the buisness section is just terrible. They have turned themselves into a mouthpiece for their advertisers (real estate) and I personally dont like to pay for advertising.

[DWCAP]

I use to have a subscription to Newsweek, and actually paid for it. I liked it. The analysis and reporting was really good, and they told a much deeper story than the newspaper did.

Then they decided to go another direction and all their pieces were opinion pieces. The only ‘conservative’ voice was a guy best described as ‘libertarian’ and I started noticing that they were more arguing for or against something rather than actually reporting anything. I couldnt figure out what was going on till I read an article about it, that it was a conscience decision and was backfiring on them. I had just cancelled my subscription because it wasnt what I had paid for anymore. I am perfectly able to make my own decisions, given that I have enough facts. I was paying them for well organized and diverse facts. I was not paying them for biased and narrow opinions.

I now subscribe to TIME, as that seems to be the last bastion of ‘paying for facts’, even if it isnt as good at it as Newsweek use to be.I dont mind paying for quality reporting, but the problem is that the quality disappeared long before I stopped paying.

The UT is just a disaster on paper. Their reporting in the buisness section is just terrible. They have turned themselves into a mouthpiece for their advertisers (real estate) and I personally dont like to pay for advertising.

[DWCAP]

I use to have a subscription to Newsweek, and actually paid for it. I liked it. The analysis and reporting was really good, and they told a much deeper story than the newspaper did.

Then they decided to go another direction and all their pieces were opinion pieces. The only ‘conservative’ voice was a guy best described as ‘libertarian’ and I started noticing that they were more arguing for or against something rather than actually reporting anything. I couldnt figure out what was going on till I read an article about it, that it was a conscience decision and was backfiring on them. I had just cancelled my subscription because it wasnt what I had paid for anymore. I am perfectly able to make my own decisions, given that I have enough facts. I was paying them for well organized and diverse facts. I was not paying them for biased and narrow opinions.

I now subscribe to TIME, as that seems to be the last bastion of ‘paying for facts’, even if it isnt as good at it as Newsweek use to be.I dont mind paying for quality reporting, but the problem is that the quality disappeared long before I stopped paying.

The UT is just a disaster on paper. Their reporting in the buisness section is just terrible. They have turned themselves into a mouthpiece for their advertisers (real estate) and I personally dont like to pay for advertising.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]The complete prostitution of the mainstream media is an accomplished fact. Both directly, through media consolidation, and indirectly, through captivity to advertisers, the media are by now the stenographers and flacks of neoliberal and neoconservative corporatism in general.

Now we have a corporate state with a soiled layer of political paint rapidly peeling off.

Ironically, what killed newspapers was not a poor business model, IT WAS BUSINESS ITSELF.[/quote]

Arraya: I cannot tell you the number of times I wished I could write you and your theories off as just being part of the fringe, but the facts tell a different story.

My dad opined once that the Watergate story was the high water mark of American journalism, and while I don’t agree completely, he had a point.

There is no depth to reporting anymore and the term “chattering classes” applies more than ever. Between Maddow and Olbermann on the Left and Beck and Limbaugh on the Right, we’re now left with nothing that constitutes a centrist, middle-of-the-road viewpoint. All that is vulgar and profane and ultimately meaningless, is paraded in front of us as “news” and “viewpoints” and “discussion”, but its anything but.

“panem et circenses”

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]The complete prostitution of the mainstream media is an accomplished fact. Both directly, through media consolidation, and indirectly, through captivity to advertisers, the media are by now the stenographers and flacks of neoliberal and neoconservative corporatism in general.

Now we have a corporate state with a soiled layer of political paint rapidly peeling off.

Ironically, what killed newspapers was not a poor business model, IT WAS BUSINESS ITSELF.[/quote]

Arraya: I cannot tell you the number of times I wished I could write you and your theories off as just being part of the fringe, but the facts tell a different story.

My dad opined once that the Watergate story was the high water mark of American journalism, and while I don’t agree completely, he had a point.

There is no depth to reporting anymore and the term “chattering classes” applies more than ever. Between Maddow and Olbermann on the Left and Beck and Limbaugh on the Right, we’re now left with nothing that constitutes a centrist, middle-of-the-road viewpoint. All that is vulgar and profane and ultimately meaningless, is paraded in front of us as “news” and “viewpoints” and “discussion”, but its anything but.

“panem et circenses”

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]The complete prostitution of the mainstream media is an accomplished fact. Both directly, through media consolidation, and indirectly, through captivity to advertisers, the media are by now the stenographers and flacks of neoliberal and neoconservative corporatism in general.

Now we have a corporate state with a soiled layer of political paint rapidly peeling off.

Ironically, what killed newspapers was not a poor business model, IT WAS BUSINESS ITSELF.[/quote]

Arraya: I cannot tell you the number of times I wished I could write you and your theories off as just being part of the fringe, but the facts tell a different story.

My dad opined once that the Watergate story was the high water mark of American journalism, and while I don’t agree completely, he had a point.

There is no depth to reporting anymore and the term “chattering classes” applies more than ever. Between Maddow and Olbermann on the Left and Beck and Limbaugh on the Right, we’re now left with nothing that constitutes a centrist, middle-of-the-road viewpoint. All that is vulgar and profane and ultimately meaningless, is paraded in front of us as “news” and “viewpoints” and “discussion”, but its anything but.

“panem et circenses”

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]The complete prostitution of the mainstream media is an accomplished fact. Both directly, through media consolidation, and indirectly, through captivity to advertisers, the media are by now the stenographers and flacks of neoliberal and neoconservative corporatism in general.

Now we have a corporate state with a soiled layer of political paint rapidly peeling off.

Ironically, what killed newspapers was not a poor business model, IT WAS BUSINESS ITSELF.[/quote]

Arraya: I cannot tell you the number of times I wished I could write you and your theories off as just being part of the fringe, but the facts tell a different story.

My dad opined once that the Watergate story was the high water mark of American journalism, and while I don’t agree completely, he had a point.

There is no depth to reporting anymore and the term “chattering classes” applies more than ever. Between Maddow and Olbermann on the Left and Beck and Limbaugh on the Right, we’re now left with nothing that constitutes a centrist, middle-of-the-road viewpoint. All that is vulgar and profane and ultimately meaningless, is paraded in front of us as “news” and “viewpoints” and “discussion”, but its anything but.

“panem et circenses”

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]The complete prostitution of the mainstream media is an accomplished fact. Both directly, through media consolidation, and indirectly, through captivity to advertisers, the media are by now the stenographers and flacks of neoliberal and neoconservative corporatism in general.

Now we have a corporate state with a soiled layer of political paint rapidly peeling off.

Ironically, what killed newspapers was not a poor business model, IT WAS BUSINESS ITSELF.[/quote]

Arraya: I cannot tell you the number of times I wished I could write you and your theories off as just being part of the fringe, but the facts tell a different story.

My dad opined once that the Watergate story was the high water mark of American journalism, and while I don’t agree completely, he had a point.

There is no depth to reporting anymore and the term “chattering classes” applies more than ever. Between Maddow and Olbermann on the Left and Beck and Limbaugh on the Right, we’re now left with nothing that constitutes a centrist, middle-of-the-road viewpoint. All that is vulgar and profane and ultimately meaningless, is paraded in front of us as “news” and “viewpoints” and “discussion”, but its anything but.

“panem et circenses”

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=DWCAP]I use to have a subscription to Newsweek, and actually paid for it. I liked it. The analysis and reporting was really good, and they told a much deeper story than the newspaper did.

Then they decided to go another direction and all their pieces were opinion pieces. [/quote]

Newsweek is now on the selling block, too. Newsweek’s editor, Jon Meacham, is a frequent guest on Bill Maher’s “Real Time” and can best be described as a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party. Not putting Newsweek down, but it has become progressively more left-leaning over the years, while trying to represent otherwise.

I subscribe to the Economist. Its definitely right-leaning, but makes no bones about it and doesn’t try to pretend otherwise.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=DWCAP]I use to have a subscription to Newsweek, and actually paid for it. I liked it. The analysis and reporting was really good, and they told a much deeper story than the newspaper did.

Then they decided to go another direction and all their pieces were opinion pieces. [/quote]

Newsweek is now on the selling block, too. Newsweek’s editor, Jon Meacham, is a frequent guest on Bill Maher’s “Real Time” and can best be described as a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party. Not putting Newsweek down, but it has become progressively more left-leaning over the years, while trying to represent otherwise.

I subscribe to the Economist. Its definitely right-leaning, but makes no bones about it and doesn’t try to pretend otherwise.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=DWCAP]I use to have a subscription to Newsweek, and actually paid for it. I liked it. The analysis and reporting was really good, and they told a much deeper story than the newspaper did.

Then they decided to go another direction and all their pieces were opinion pieces. [/quote]

Newsweek is now on the selling block, too. Newsweek’s editor, Jon Meacham, is a frequent guest on Bill Maher’s “Real Time” and can best be described as a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party. Not putting Newsweek down, but it has become progressively more left-leaning over the years, while trying to represent otherwise.

I subscribe to the Economist. Its definitely right-leaning, but makes no bones about it and doesn’t try to pretend otherwise.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=DWCAP]I use to have a subscription to Newsweek, and actually paid for it. I liked it. The analysis and reporting was really good, and they told a much deeper story than the newspaper did.

Then they decided to go another direction and all their pieces were opinion pieces. [/quote]

Newsweek is now on the selling block, too. Newsweek’s editor, Jon Meacham, is a frequent guest on Bill Maher’s “Real Time” and can best be described as a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party. Not putting Newsweek down, but it has become progressively more left-leaning over the years, while trying to represent otherwise.

I subscribe to the Economist. Its definitely right-leaning, but makes no bones about it and doesn’t try to pretend otherwise.

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