OT: How about those Union Tribune Layoffs?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=flu]welcome to new media…. Old print is pretty much dead…Why pay journalists XXXX ,when you can pay bloggers ten cents on the dollar.[/quote]

FLU: The downside to bloggers is that they don’t have the investigative capability of a New York Times, or LA Times, or Newsweek (periodicals are going through the same bleeding out).

Combined with mostly corporate ownership, we now have a fully compromised press, which is part of the on-going problem in our society, namely little to no pushback on government or large business interests from an involved and engaged press.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]FLU: The downside to bloggers is that they don’t have the investigative capability of a New York Times, or LA Times, or Newsweek (periodicals are going through the same bleeding out).[/quote]

This is true for 95% of the bloggers out there, but there are a handful that are changing the game. That’s why most “newspaper” articles end up citing bloggers for breaking news these days. I’ve noticed that most of the best bloggers are getting swiped up by the big boys, eg: Nate Silver getting picked up by the NYT.

The big boys will continue grabbing the best bloggers in order to stay relevant. We can only hope that these bloggers keep it real and maintain some integrity despite their fat new contracts.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]FLU: The downside to bloggers is that they don’t have the investigative capability of a New York Times, or LA Times, or Newsweek (periodicals are going through the same bleeding out).[/quote]

This is true for 95% of the bloggers out there, but there are a handful that are changing the game. That’s why most “newspaper” articles end up citing bloggers for breaking news these days. I’ve noticed that most of the best bloggers are getting swiped up by the big boys, eg: Nate Silver getting picked up by the NYT.

The big boys will continue grabbing the best bloggers in order to stay relevant. We can only hope that these bloggers keep it real and maintain some integrity despite their fat new contracts.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]FLU: The downside to bloggers is that they don’t have the investigative capability of a New York Times, or LA Times, or Newsweek (periodicals are going through the same bleeding out).[/quote]

This is true for 95% of the bloggers out there, but there are a handful that are changing the game. That’s why most “newspaper” articles end up citing bloggers for breaking news these days. I’ve noticed that most of the best bloggers are getting swiped up by the big boys, eg: Nate Silver getting picked up by the NYT.

The big boys will continue grabbing the best bloggers in order to stay relevant. We can only hope that these bloggers keep it real and maintain some integrity despite their fat new contracts.

[afx114]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]FLU: The downside to bloggers is that they don’t have the investigative capability of a New York Times, or LA Times, or Newsweek (periodicals are going through the same bleeding out).[/quote]

This is true for 95% of the bloggers out there, but there are a handful that are changing the game. That’s why most “newspaper” articles end up citing bloggers for breaking news these days. I’ve noticed that most of the best bloggers are getting swiped up by the big boys, eg: Nate Silver getting picked up by the NYT.

The big boys will continue grabbing the best bloggers in order to stay relevant. We can only hope that these bloggers keep it real and maintain some integrity despite their fat new contracts.

[afx114]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]FLU: The downside to bloggers is that they don’t have the investigative capability of a New York Times, or LA Times, or Newsweek (periodicals are going through the same bleeding out).[/quote]

This is true for 95% of the bloggers out there, but there are a handful that are changing the game. That’s why most “newspaper” articles end up citing bloggers for breaking news these days. I’ve noticed that most of the best bloggers are getting swiped up by the big boys, eg: Nate Silver getting picked up by the NYT.

The big boys will continue grabbing the best bloggers in order to stay relevant. We can only hope that these bloggers keep it real and maintain some integrity despite their fat new contracts.

[bearishgurl]

I, too, dropped my daily subscription last month after twenty years. Not only did the paper greatly shrink all the while their subscription prices kept rising, I was getting all my news on the internet as well and finding I was frequently recycling the paper.

I enjoyed using the Sunday coupons but have been told I can get these on the internet as well. Haven’t tried this yet, though.

[bearishgurl]

I, too, dropped my daily subscription last month after twenty years. Not only did the paper greatly shrink all the while their subscription prices kept rising, I was getting all my news on the internet as well and finding I was frequently recycling the paper.

I enjoyed using the Sunday coupons but have been told I can get these on the internet as well. Haven’t tried this yet, though.

[bearishgurl]

I, too, dropped my daily subscription last month after twenty years. Not only did the paper greatly shrink all the while their subscription prices kept rising, I was getting all my news on the internet as well and finding I was frequently recycling the paper.

I enjoyed using the Sunday coupons but have been told I can get these on the internet as well. Haven’t tried this yet, though.

[bearishgurl]

I, too, dropped my daily subscription last month after twenty years. Not only did the paper greatly shrink all the while their subscription prices kept rising, I was getting all my news on the internet as well and finding I was frequently recycling the paper.

I enjoyed using the Sunday coupons but have been told I can get these on the internet as well. Haven’t tried this yet, though.

[bearishgurl]

I, too, dropped my daily subscription last month after twenty years. Not only did the paper greatly shrink all the while their subscription prices kept rising, I was getting all my news on the internet as well and finding I was frequently recycling the paper.

I enjoyed using the Sunday coupons but have been told I can get these on the internet as well. Haven’t tried this yet, though.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

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This is true for 95% of the bloggers out there, but there are a handful that are changing the game. That’s why most “newspaper” articles end up citing bloggers for breaking news these days. I’ve noticed that most of the best bloggers are getting swiped up by the big boys, eg: Nate Silver getting picked up by the NYT.

The big boys will continue grabbing the best bloggers in order to stay relevant. We can only hope that these bloggers keep it real and maintain some integrity despite their fat new contracts.[/quote]

Afx: In your opinion, do you think investigative journalism is anywhere near what it was in the 1960s, 1970s or even 1980s? I’m not asking that as a leading question, I’m genuinely curious as to your opinion.

Personally, I think we’re seeing the destruction of the Fourth Estate in this country, and I’m not sure that bloggers are the answer.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=afx114]
This is true for 95% of the bloggers out there, but there are a handful that are changing the game. That’s why most “newspaper” articles end up citing bloggers for breaking news these days. I’ve noticed that most of the best bloggers are getting swiped up by the big boys, eg: Nate Silver getting picked up by the NYT.

The big boys will continue grabbing the best bloggers in order to stay relevant. We can only hope that these bloggers keep it real and maintain some integrity despite their fat new contracts.[/quote]

Afx: In your opinion, do you think investigative journalism is anywhere near what it was in the 1960s, 1970s or even 1980s? I’m not asking that as a leading question, I’m genuinely curious as to your opinion.

Personally, I think we’re seeing the destruction of the Fourth Estate in this country, and I’m not sure that bloggers are the answer.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=afx114]
This is true for 95% of the bloggers out there, but there are a handful that are changing the game. That’s why most “newspaper” articles end up citing bloggers for breaking news these days. I’ve noticed that most of the best bloggers are getting swiped up by the big boys, eg: Nate Silver getting picked up by the NYT.

The big boys will continue grabbing the best bloggers in order to stay relevant. We can only hope that these bloggers keep it real and maintain some integrity despite their fat new contracts.[/quote]

Afx: In your opinion, do you think investigative journalism is anywhere near what it was in the 1960s, 1970s or even 1980s? I’m not asking that as a leading question, I’m genuinely curious as to your opinion.

Personally, I think we’re seeing the destruction of the Fourth Estate in this country, and I’m not sure that bloggers are the answer.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=afx114]
This is true for 95% of the bloggers out there, but there are a handful that are changing the game. That’s why most “newspaper” articles end up citing bloggers for breaking news these days. I’ve noticed that most of the best bloggers are getting swiped up by the big boys, eg: Nate Silver getting picked up by the NYT.

The big boys will continue grabbing the best bloggers in order to stay relevant. We can only hope that these bloggers keep it real and maintain some integrity despite their fat new contracts.[/quote]

Afx: In your opinion, do you think investigative journalism is anywhere near what it was in the 1960s, 1970s or even 1980s? I’m not asking that as a leading question, I’m genuinely curious as to your opinion.

Personally, I think we’re seeing the destruction of the Fourth Estate in this country, and I’m not sure that bloggers are the answer.

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