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Nah, the rally will run till this fall unless rates significantly break 6%+ and sustain it. I think itll just mean the rally will cool faster and more this fall than it would have if rates had stayed crazy. But the watercooler talk will circulate for another two or three months or so.

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Nah, the rally will run till this fall unless rates significantly break 6%+ and sustain it. I think itll just mean the rally will cool faster and more this fall than it would have if rates had stayed crazy. But the watercooler talk will circulate for another two or three months or so.

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population growth also only helps spur housing demand if density per household is holding or falling. If density is increasing, then it doesnt necessarly have to lead to more demand.

I dont know if that is happening now on a macro level or not, but one of the most often cited reasons for the falling rents we are seeing now is that people are grouping up to save. Kids move in with mom and dad, get a roommate, move into minidorm style living, people let out rooms, convert the garage etc. etc. hell people arent even getting divorced like they use to, all leading to atleast a temporary reduction in housing demand that I see no reason couldnt last for 1-2 years at a minimum. (rent contracts are for a year…)

Cutting your housing expenses by 20%+ can really make a difference in the monthly budget, alot more than not buying coffee at starbucks (unless you are some kinda junky:) ) so it just kinda makes sense.

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population growth also only helps spur housing demand if density per household is holding or falling. If density is increasing, then it doesnt necessarly have to lead to more demand.

I dont know if that is happening now on a macro level or not, but one of the most often cited reasons for the falling rents we are seeing now is that people are grouping up to save. Kids move in with mom and dad, get a roommate, move into minidorm style living, people let out rooms, convert the garage etc. etc. hell people arent even getting divorced like they use to, all leading to atleast a temporary reduction in housing demand that I see no reason couldnt last for 1-2 years at a minimum. (rent contracts are for a year…)

Cutting your housing expenses by 20%+ can really make a difference in the monthly budget, alot more than not buying coffee at starbucks (unless you are some kinda junky:) ) so it just kinda makes sense.

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population growth also only helps spur housing demand if density per household is holding or falling. If density is increasing, then it doesnt necessarly have to lead to more demand.

I dont know if that is happening now on a macro level or not, but one of the most often cited reasons for the falling rents we are seeing now is that people are grouping up to save. Kids move in with mom and dad, get a roommate, move into minidorm style living, people let out rooms, convert the garage etc. etc. hell people arent even getting divorced like they use to, all leading to atleast a temporary reduction in housing demand that I see no reason couldnt last for 1-2 years at a minimum. (rent contracts are for a year…)

Cutting your housing expenses by 20%+ can really make a difference in the monthly budget, alot more than not buying coffee at starbucks (unless you are some kinda junky:) ) so it just kinda makes sense.

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population growth also only helps spur housing demand if density per household is holding or falling. If density is increasing, then it doesnt necessarly have to lead to more demand.

I dont know if that is happening now on a macro level or not, but one of the most often cited reasons for the falling rents we are seeing now is that people are grouping up to save. Kids move in with mom and dad, get a roommate, move into minidorm style living, people let out rooms, convert the garage etc. etc. hell people arent even getting divorced like they use to, all leading to atleast a temporary reduction in housing demand that I see no reason couldnt last for 1-2 years at a minimum. (rent contracts are for a year…)

Cutting your housing expenses by 20%+ can really make a difference in the monthly budget, alot more than not buying coffee at starbucks (unless you are some kinda junky:) ) so it just kinda makes sense.

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population growth also only helps spur housing demand if density per household is holding or falling. If density is increasing, then it doesnt necessarly have to lead to more demand.

I dont know if that is happening now on a macro level or not, but one of the most often cited reasons for the falling rents we are seeing now is that people are grouping up to save. Kids move in with mom and dad, get a roommate, move into minidorm style living, people let out rooms, convert the garage etc. etc. hell people arent even getting divorced like they use to, all leading to atleast a temporary reduction in housing demand that I see no reason couldnt last for 1-2 years at a minimum. (rent contracts are for a year…)

Cutting your housing expenses by 20%+ can really make a difference in the monthly budget, alot more than not buying coffee at starbucks (unless you are some kinda junky:) ) so it just kinda makes sense.

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[quote=patientrenter]Well, I am probably in jpnpb’s camp on this one. I’d rather pay for other people’s kids to be well educated than to have them grow up with their knuckles scraping the ground.

But:

1. Anyone who has a middle class income or more should pay for their own kids, in full, 100%. Grade the % down as the parents get poorer.
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Just curious, but how do you account for the people already doing this? I attended school (ages 2-18) but never spent one day in public schools. My parents already paid all their taxes that support schools, then paid my tuition.
And the public schools I could have gone to are some of the best in the state. My parents had so much trouble with the public school system and its employees regarding my brother however, I was never allowed to go to public schools. So I just wonder, how do the piggs account for the families that are paying double cause they just dont trust the schools?

(BTW, they never have ever complained about paying double. They are able to, and are lucky enough to be able to say that, so please dont rag on them for “complaining” cause they are not. I am just wondering how people take into account the familys who already pay double for their kids to attend school.)

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[quote=patientrenter]Well, I am probably in jpnpb’s camp on this one. I’d rather pay for other people’s kids to be well educated than to have them grow up with their knuckles scraping the ground.

But:

1. Anyone who has a middle class income or more should pay for their own kids, in full, 100%. Grade the % down as the parents get poorer.
[/quote]

Just curious, but how do you account for the people already doing this? I attended school (ages 2-18) but never spent one day in public schools. My parents already paid all their taxes that support schools, then paid my tuition.
And the public schools I could have gone to are some of the best in the state. My parents had so much trouble with the public school system and its employees regarding my brother however, I was never allowed to go to public schools. So I just wonder, how do the piggs account for the families that are paying double cause they just dont trust the schools?

(BTW, they never have ever complained about paying double. They are able to, and are lucky enough to be able to say that, so please dont rag on them for “complaining” cause they are not. I am just wondering how people take into account the familys who already pay double for their kids to attend school.)

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[quote=patientrenter]Well, I am probably in jpnpb’s camp on this one. I’d rather pay for other people’s kids to be well educated than to have them grow up with their knuckles scraping the ground.

But:

1. Anyone who has a middle class income or more should pay for their own kids, in full, 100%. Grade the % down as the parents get poorer.
[/quote]

Just curious, but how do you account for the people already doing this? I attended school (ages 2-18) but never spent one day in public schools. My parents already paid all their taxes that support schools, then paid my tuition.
And the public schools I could have gone to are some of the best in the state. My parents had so much trouble with the public school system and its employees regarding my brother however, I was never allowed to go to public schools. So I just wonder, how do the piggs account for the families that are paying double cause they just dont trust the schools?

(BTW, they never have ever complained about paying double. They are able to, and are lucky enough to be able to say that, so please dont rag on them for “complaining” cause they are not. I am just wondering how people take into account the familys who already pay double for their kids to attend school.)

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[quote=patientrenter]Well, I am probably in jpnpb’s camp on this one. I’d rather pay for other people’s kids to be well educated than to have them grow up with their knuckles scraping the ground.

But:

1. Anyone who has a middle class income or more should pay for their own kids, in full, 100%. Grade the % down as the parents get poorer.
[/quote]

Just curious, but how do you account for the people already doing this? I attended school (ages 2-18) but never spent one day in public schools. My parents already paid all their taxes that support schools, then paid my tuition.
And the public schools I could have gone to are some of the best in the state. My parents had so much trouble with the public school system and its employees regarding my brother however, I was never allowed to go to public schools. So I just wonder, how do the piggs account for the families that are paying double cause they just dont trust the schools?

(BTW, they never have ever complained about paying double. They are able to, and are lucky enough to be able to say that, so please dont rag on them for “complaining” cause they are not. I am just wondering how people take into account the familys who already pay double for their kids to attend school.)

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[quote=patientrenter]Well, I am probably in jpnpb’s camp on this one. I’d rather pay for other people’s kids to be well educated than to have them grow up with their knuckles scraping the ground.

But:

1. Anyone who has a middle class income or more should pay for their own kids, in full, 100%. Grade the % down as the parents get poorer.
[/quote]

Just curious, but how do you account for the people already doing this? I attended school (ages 2-18) but never spent one day in public schools. My parents already paid all their taxes that support schools, then paid my tuition.
And the public schools I could have gone to are some of the best in the state. My parents had so much trouble with the public school system and its employees regarding my brother however, I was never allowed to go to public schools. So I just wonder, how do the piggs account for the families that are paying double cause they just dont trust the schools?

(BTW, they never have ever complained about paying double. They are able to, and are lucky enough to be able to say that, so please dont rag on them for “complaining” cause they are not. I am just wondering how people take into account the familys who already pay double for their kids to attend school.)

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