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Participant[quote=flu][quote=dumbrenter]
So your kid gets vaccinated against measles, but there is still a chance to get infected with measles and to prevent that you want to get everybody around you to be poked by a needle.
By the same logic, if your neighbor’s kid is allergic to nuts, we should ban them from your neighborhood or even the whole county just to be sure. Because we don’t want kids to suffer, either from measles or allergies.[/quote]Have you been to an elementary school in CarmelV lately?
Ever heard of “peanut free zone”?
Lunch tables designated nut-free tables and classrooms with kids that have a nut allergy have designed precautions taken, including restrictions food/etc during class/holiday events.
A woman’s right to choose has no impact on the health/well being of everyone else around them.[/quote]
Am trying to make sense of your words…. My point was that if everybody has to be forced to do something for zk’s kid to be prevented from measles, the same should apply for allergies and maybe some other items too.
Not sure what this has to do with school tables? Are you suggesting that kids who do not get vaccinated be separated from the kids who do? If not, your questions about carmelV (assuming you meant carmel valley) makes no sense and I’m not sure why you are asking me if I have ever been to elementary schools in carmelV.A woman’s right to choose DOES have an impact on my future well-being in terms of future tax receipts and my social security payments. Let’s be honest about how the right to choose is affecting the demographics. My comparison was that while we are at poking people whether they like it or not, how about doing the same the right to choose?
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=zk][quote=dumbrenter]If you are vaccinated against measles, you would not get it anyway, right?[/quote]
No, not right. Thus voiding your point(s).[/quote]
Plus, even children who do get vaccinated do not reach maximum immunity until they are a few years old due to the need for multiple doses. It’s worse for premies. So zk is right “No, not right.”[/quote]
So your kid gets vaccinated against measles, but there is still a chance to get infected with measles and to prevent that you want to get everybody around you to be poked by a needle.
By the same logic, if your neighbor’s kid is allergic to nuts, we should ban them from your neighborhood or even the whole county just to be sure. Because we don’t want kids to suffer, either from measles or allergies.ParticipantFunny that those that argue that women should have control over their bodies turn around and want needles to be poked into everyone else.
This is not a science question. It is about society.
For whatever reason a person refuses to get a vaccine, does it mean that they have no right to exist? Should they be killed (Funny, for not wanting to get poked with a needle!)?Should their right to live be revoked by the rest of the society, should they move to Montana like OP suggests? Wonder why the OP would not want to move to Alaska, away from the non-vaccinated.
Why don’t those that like to get vaccinated do that, and leave the rest alone? If you are vaccinated against measles, you would not get it anyway, right?
Participant[quote=spdrun]dumbrenter: an active war zone. Meaning that planes flying at cruising altitude had been shot down over the past week![/quote]
1. Airspace in cruising altitude for transiting aircraft was NOT closed down; either by Ukraine or any neighboring country.
2. Those that were shot down were not at commercial cruising altitude, they were lower.Participant[quote=spdrun]livinincali: I don’t actually give a damn who did it. My point is that flying a commercial flight over an active war zone where SAM sites are known to be in use is a breach of the airline’s duty to keep its customers safe.[/quote]
That is a very busy route and other airlines changed route only after this one went down.
What constitutes an active war zone? Would Inglewood or Compton qualify? If so, you just shut down LAX. They got more than enough firepower to bring down anything that flies in those places! Or even lasers for that matter.Participant[quote=AN]Most people don’t have a few hundred thousand in cash sitting around before they start their small biz. The other sources of cash to start a small biz is either home equity or cashing out their 401k/IRA. So, yeah, I bet it’s pretty common.[/quote]
401k? really? I must be living under a rock because the only time you withdraw from that is when you get to a state where you are hungry and have nothing to buy food with.
Participant[quote=deadzone]Speaking of H1B, I’m not a big fan of that either. Does your colleage, for instance, provide some type of unique skill that no American citizen can provide? I doubt it. The H1B program is clearly a scam used by corporations to hire cheap technical labor.[/quote]
How about H1Bs for doctors? I am sure there are enough doctors to screw you over for only $100 per visit instead of $400 per visit.
Participant[quote=spdrun]Of course. It’s also possible to take a less direct route and cancel flights until one is created if the most direct route is unsafe. Inconvenienced passengers are better than dead ones.[/quote]
And who determines what is unsafe? Airliner? country of Airliner? pilot? country where it departed from?
Unless the country that has the airspace shuts it down there is no reason not to fly over it if it is economically feasible.
Look at it the other way round… would you have posted this if there was no crash today? As of now we don’t know if it was an accident or if it was shot down.ParticipantEver heard of great circle route?
[quote=spdrun]What was a commercial airline doing flying over a war zone where long-range surface-to-air missiles were in known use? Talk about stupidity and/or hubris … “but … the Kaiser doesn’t REALLY mean unrestricted submarine warfare,”[/quote]
ParticipantIf you are sure that hyperinflation is coming, the best thing to do is to put all your wealth that you have into immovable property & other hard assets. Maybe even take out big loans because those loans will not even be worth a loaf of bread in near future.
Me on the other hand betting the opposite; staying away from hard assets and gladly paying rent on a property where the landlord (betting on inflation) is net net renting to me at a loss.
Participant[quote=Thibault][quote=spdrun] What area of town are you in? [/quote]
I live in Carmel Valley just off the 56 freeway.
It’s nice and clean but overall very sterile.[/quote]Now, that could be the source of the problem!
Carmel Valley is the total opposite of Paris. As other posters suggested, why not move downtown/hillcrest?It will not make you feel any better, but I hated every minute I spent in Paris (had to for work reasons). A collection of rudest and most inconsiderate people ever to be found in one place. Couldn’t wait to get back to carmel valley: the land of shallow people and polite facades, people just like me.
For somebody who likes paris, I can see why carmel valley would make you homesick.Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]i just remembered i love scotch,
laphroaig has a great arketing gimmick. you buy a bttle and register with them they give you one square foot of land near their water source. if you go visit they lend you some boots and a hatso you can go out to your square foot, also a hat and free plaphoroaig when you get back to the distillery.
i am a friend of laphroiag and owna sqauare foot!!!
but. this stuff is expensive. 45. 00 a bottle.
but still, you get a square foot of real estate.[/quote]
You need to sober up before you write… so we can understand you.
ParticipantWhy don’t you start with yourself? Stop wasting time on this social board and get busy in your lab with some ‘life-altering’ stuff?
[quote=CA renter]AN, you could do most of those things 15 years ago with a computer. The on-the-go usefulness is what I mean by navigation (relating your location to local activities and establishments, etc.), and I admit that it’s easier to find the nearest restaurant, etc. when you’re out and about. That IS an improvement. But being able to watch movies, spend time on Facebook, and play games (and we had handheld devices for that years ago, too) on your phone is “fluff” as far as I’m concerned.
In our glory days, we built rocket ships that could take us to the moon, satellites that could beam back pictures of outer space, we eradicated polio, we learned how to mass-produce penicillin, we built highways and more reliable cars/trucks that could carry people and goods across the states and into other countries. We (and others) built the first computers.
Nothing that you’ve mentioned comes anywhere close, IMO. We need to stop focusing on “social media” and phones and start creating things that will result in life-altering improvements and discoveries.[/quote]
Participant[quote=ocrenter][quote=flu]….this will be a constitutional issue eventually…
It’s unavoidable..http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/politics/scotus-texas-affirmative-action/
[/quote]Agree, I followed that case with eager anticipation last year, was not too pleased when they essentially just avoided the issue.
I think it all goes to the fear of the “yellow plague” dominating the upper crust of society. They are perfectly fine letting the Jews dominate because at the end, they are still white.[/quote]
Maybe, maybe not.
Jews do a good job whining, African-American civil rights leadership did a great job taking advantage of mass communications by getting into the living rooms of those that did not / would not see what was happening in the south. You can see hispanic community organizing themselves using similar methods.
What worked for them will not work for us. The problems are not the same.
We seem to have drunk heavily on this minority solidarity cool-aid and fed our kids with it too. No wonder we don’t see them organizing on campus.
We can’t even see that many lobbies operate behind the scenes without all the whining and petitioning. And we can’t organize ourselves to do that.
We pay membership fees for Costco, for AAA but where do we pay membership fees for our own community and reach out to similar ones in our neighborhoods?The problem is us. No amount of petitioning will solve this until most of us understand what the problem is.
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