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February 20, 2008 at 10:37 AM in reply to: 4 closure Ranch errr scratch that “Fire proof” Ranch = new nickname for 4S Ranch #156684February 6, 2008 at 10:48 AM in reply to: OT: Why do Hispanics and Asians trent heavily to Clinton #148743DukehornParticipant
Contraman,
I think you’re incorrect. It’s well documented that if you’re Asian and applying to let’s say Yale or Berkeley, you will be rejected against an equally qualified white because those institutions have initiated quotas since they have TOO many Asians. Same for a number of med schools.
As for economic handouts, how come our “free market” system is all good and fine until we hit a bubble (like the housing bubble) and then all the capitalists are asking for a government bailout? As a tech trans attorney, I’ve seen way too much of this.
Saving and loans bailout in the 80s, Enron etc. If free market means less government enforcement, that promotes fraud which then leads to people demanding a bailout from the government (when these same people were the ones demanding no government oversight).
Why is it that under a “free market” president, the SEC and the EPA somehow find their enforcement budgets decreased? Regardless of whether white collar or blue collar crime, when you take the cops off the street, crime increases. When crime increases (even white collar), we all get hurt. Government is not necessarily a bad thing.
February 6, 2008 at 10:48 AM in reply to: OT: Why do Hispanics and Asians trent heavily to Clinton #148995DukehornParticipantContraman,
I think you’re incorrect. It’s well documented that if you’re Asian and applying to let’s say Yale or Berkeley, you will be rejected against an equally qualified white because those institutions have initiated quotas since they have TOO many Asians. Same for a number of med schools.
As for economic handouts, how come our “free market” system is all good and fine until we hit a bubble (like the housing bubble) and then all the capitalists are asking for a government bailout? As a tech trans attorney, I’ve seen way too much of this.
Saving and loans bailout in the 80s, Enron etc. If free market means less government enforcement, that promotes fraud which then leads to people demanding a bailout from the government (when these same people were the ones demanding no government oversight).
Why is it that under a “free market” president, the SEC and the EPA somehow find their enforcement budgets decreased? Regardless of whether white collar or blue collar crime, when you take the cops off the street, crime increases. When crime increases (even white collar), we all get hurt. Government is not necessarily a bad thing.
February 6, 2008 at 10:48 AM in reply to: OT: Why do Hispanics and Asians trent heavily to Clinton #149014DukehornParticipantContraman,
I think you’re incorrect. It’s well documented that if you’re Asian and applying to let’s say Yale or Berkeley, you will be rejected against an equally qualified white because those institutions have initiated quotas since they have TOO many Asians. Same for a number of med schools.
As for economic handouts, how come our “free market” system is all good and fine until we hit a bubble (like the housing bubble) and then all the capitalists are asking for a government bailout? As a tech trans attorney, I’ve seen way too much of this.
Saving and loans bailout in the 80s, Enron etc. If free market means less government enforcement, that promotes fraud which then leads to people demanding a bailout from the government (when these same people were the ones demanding no government oversight).
Why is it that under a “free market” president, the SEC and the EPA somehow find their enforcement budgets decreased? Regardless of whether white collar or blue collar crime, when you take the cops off the street, crime increases. When crime increases (even white collar), we all get hurt. Government is not necessarily a bad thing.
February 6, 2008 at 10:48 AM in reply to: OT: Why do Hispanics and Asians trent heavily to Clinton #149027DukehornParticipantContraman,
I think you’re incorrect. It’s well documented that if you’re Asian and applying to let’s say Yale or Berkeley, you will be rejected against an equally qualified white because those institutions have initiated quotas since they have TOO many Asians. Same for a number of med schools.
As for economic handouts, how come our “free market” system is all good and fine until we hit a bubble (like the housing bubble) and then all the capitalists are asking for a government bailout? As a tech trans attorney, I’ve seen way too much of this.
Saving and loans bailout in the 80s, Enron etc. If free market means less government enforcement, that promotes fraud which then leads to people demanding a bailout from the government (when these same people were the ones demanding no government oversight).
Why is it that under a “free market” president, the SEC and the EPA somehow find their enforcement budgets decreased? Regardless of whether white collar or blue collar crime, when you take the cops off the street, crime increases. When crime increases (even white collar), we all get hurt. Government is not necessarily a bad thing.
February 6, 2008 at 10:48 AM in reply to: OT: Why do Hispanics and Asians trent heavily to Clinton #149099DukehornParticipantContraman,
I think you’re incorrect. It’s well documented that if you’re Asian and applying to let’s say Yale or Berkeley, you will be rejected against an equally qualified white because those institutions have initiated quotas since they have TOO many Asians. Same for a number of med schools.
As for economic handouts, how come our “free market” system is all good and fine until we hit a bubble (like the housing bubble) and then all the capitalists are asking for a government bailout? As a tech trans attorney, I’ve seen way too much of this.
Saving and loans bailout in the 80s, Enron etc. If free market means less government enforcement, that promotes fraud which then leads to people demanding a bailout from the government (when these same people were the ones demanding no government oversight).
Why is it that under a “free market” president, the SEC and the EPA somehow find their enforcement budgets decreased? Regardless of whether white collar or blue collar crime, when you take the cops off the street, crime increases. When crime increases (even white collar), we all get hurt. Government is not necessarily a bad thing.
February 6, 2008 at 10:13 AM in reply to: OT: Why do Hispanics and Asians trent heavily to Clinton #148724DukehornParticipantI’m Asian and voted for Obama. Most of my friends (who have graduate degrees and make 6 figures) are willing to pay our tax burden and more to support the country. Of course, most of us have traveled to countries with higher tax burdens (like Sweden and Denmark) with a government network that protects the population and to 3rd world countries (Bolivia, Guatemala) where there is abject poverty. I appreciate the US and I have no qualms about paying my taxes.
Also, some of us are not bigoted or stupid enough to punish poor children who are unfortunate enough to have poor parents.
Seriously, the BS about handouts needs to stop, especially in the context of the children living below the poverty line. That’s like saying an abused child deserves to be abused because her father is a sexual predator.
I guess some of the Republicans here definitely believe in the children paying for the sins of their fathers…..
I use to be a Republican but I’d rather hang out with the hippy environmentalists with social concerns than with the religious conservatives and those people who are solely concerned about money.
PS Asians are some of the most racist folks around. I can’t imagine the 1st generation folks voting for an African American.
February 6, 2008 at 10:13 AM in reply to: OT: Why do Hispanics and Asians trent heavily to Clinton #148976DukehornParticipantI’m Asian and voted for Obama. Most of my friends (who have graduate degrees and make 6 figures) are willing to pay our tax burden and more to support the country. Of course, most of us have traveled to countries with higher tax burdens (like Sweden and Denmark) with a government network that protects the population and to 3rd world countries (Bolivia, Guatemala) where there is abject poverty. I appreciate the US and I have no qualms about paying my taxes.
Also, some of us are not bigoted or stupid enough to punish poor children who are unfortunate enough to have poor parents.
Seriously, the BS about handouts needs to stop, especially in the context of the children living below the poverty line. That’s like saying an abused child deserves to be abused because her father is a sexual predator.
I guess some of the Republicans here definitely believe in the children paying for the sins of their fathers…..
I use to be a Republican but I’d rather hang out with the hippy environmentalists with social concerns than with the religious conservatives and those people who are solely concerned about money.
PS Asians are some of the most racist folks around. I can’t imagine the 1st generation folks voting for an African American.
February 6, 2008 at 10:13 AM in reply to: OT: Why do Hispanics and Asians trent heavily to Clinton #148992DukehornParticipantI’m Asian and voted for Obama. Most of my friends (who have graduate degrees and make 6 figures) are willing to pay our tax burden and more to support the country. Of course, most of us have traveled to countries with higher tax burdens (like Sweden and Denmark) with a government network that protects the population and to 3rd world countries (Bolivia, Guatemala) where there is abject poverty. I appreciate the US and I have no qualms about paying my taxes.
Also, some of us are not bigoted or stupid enough to punish poor children who are unfortunate enough to have poor parents.
Seriously, the BS about handouts needs to stop, especially in the context of the children living below the poverty line. That’s like saying an abused child deserves to be abused because her father is a sexual predator.
I guess some of the Republicans here definitely believe in the children paying for the sins of their fathers…..
I use to be a Republican but I’d rather hang out with the hippy environmentalists with social concerns than with the religious conservatives and those people who are solely concerned about money.
PS Asians are some of the most racist folks around. I can’t imagine the 1st generation folks voting for an African American.
February 6, 2008 at 10:13 AM in reply to: OT: Why do Hispanics and Asians trent heavily to Clinton #149006DukehornParticipantI’m Asian and voted for Obama. Most of my friends (who have graduate degrees and make 6 figures) are willing to pay our tax burden and more to support the country. Of course, most of us have traveled to countries with higher tax burdens (like Sweden and Denmark) with a government network that protects the population and to 3rd world countries (Bolivia, Guatemala) where there is abject poverty. I appreciate the US and I have no qualms about paying my taxes.
Also, some of us are not bigoted or stupid enough to punish poor children who are unfortunate enough to have poor parents.
Seriously, the BS about handouts needs to stop, especially in the context of the children living below the poverty line. That’s like saying an abused child deserves to be abused because her father is a sexual predator.
I guess some of the Republicans here definitely believe in the children paying for the sins of their fathers…..
I use to be a Republican but I’d rather hang out with the hippy environmentalists with social concerns than with the religious conservatives and those people who are solely concerned about money.
PS Asians are some of the most racist folks around. I can’t imagine the 1st generation folks voting for an African American.
February 6, 2008 at 10:13 AM in reply to: OT: Why do Hispanics and Asians trent heavily to Clinton #149079DukehornParticipantI’m Asian and voted for Obama. Most of my friends (who have graduate degrees and make 6 figures) are willing to pay our tax burden and more to support the country. Of course, most of us have traveled to countries with higher tax burdens (like Sweden and Denmark) with a government network that protects the population and to 3rd world countries (Bolivia, Guatemala) where there is abject poverty. I appreciate the US and I have no qualms about paying my taxes.
Also, some of us are not bigoted or stupid enough to punish poor children who are unfortunate enough to have poor parents.
Seriously, the BS about handouts needs to stop, especially in the context of the children living below the poverty line. That’s like saying an abused child deserves to be abused because her father is a sexual predator.
I guess some of the Republicans here definitely believe in the children paying for the sins of their fathers…..
I use to be a Republican but I’d rather hang out with the hippy environmentalists with social concerns than with the religious conservatives and those people who are solely concerned about money.
PS Asians are some of the most racist folks around. I can’t imagine the 1st generation folks voting for an African American.
DukehornParticipantVery true,
I grew up in a NASA town with a few astornauts on the street over (Jack Lousma for example) so I got to see the DoD spend as well, and my father worked on the F-16 figher and M-1 tank engine designs (thermal flow).
I don’t know if I’d agree with the inference that liberals are anti-military. Granted some are (on the very far left), but I’d say a large number of my friends and I are cognizant of the necessity of the military and the need for military RnD and spend. (with the additional caveat that these friends and I grew up middle class so we probably have more military connections than the current generation). But this raises a sociological question about whether the widening economic gap between the rich and the poor serves to insulate many of us from the current sacrifices made by our troops in Iraq (and whether that’s a fault more attributable to the conservatives or liberals)
Oh I was planning on going to MIT on a ROTC scholarship till I failed my physical (dang 4 eyes).
I just really dislike how our nation seems partitioned into these artificial categories where it seems that just because I’m an environmentalist and pretty liberal on social issues that I can’t also support our military. Or if you’re in the military, you can’t believe in global warming. We need more political parties….
DukehornParticipantVery true,
I grew up in a NASA town with a few astornauts on the street over (Jack Lousma for example) so I got to see the DoD spend as well, and my father worked on the F-16 figher and M-1 tank engine designs (thermal flow).
I don’t know if I’d agree with the inference that liberals are anti-military. Granted some are (on the very far left), but I’d say a large number of my friends and I are cognizant of the necessity of the military and the need for military RnD and spend. (with the additional caveat that these friends and I grew up middle class so we probably have more military connections than the current generation). But this raises a sociological question about whether the widening economic gap between the rich and the poor serves to insulate many of us from the current sacrifices made by our troops in Iraq (and whether that’s a fault more attributable to the conservatives or liberals)
Oh I was planning on going to MIT on a ROTC scholarship till I failed my physical (dang 4 eyes).
I just really dislike how our nation seems partitioned into these artificial categories where it seems that just because I’m an environmentalist and pretty liberal on social issues that I can’t also support our military. Or if you’re in the military, you can’t believe in global warming. We need more political parties….
DukehornParticipantVery true,
I grew up in a NASA town with a few astornauts on the street over (Jack Lousma for example) so I got to see the DoD spend as well, and my father worked on the F-16 figher and M-1 tank engine designs (thermal flow).
I don’t know if I’d agree with the inference that liberals are anti-military. Granted some are (on the very far left), but I’d say a large number of my friends and I are cognizant of the necessity of the military and the need for military RnD and spend. (with the additional caveat that these friends and I grew up middle class so we probably have more military connections than the current generation). But this raises a sociological question about whether the widening economic gap between the rich and the poor serves to insulate many of us from the current sacrifices made by our troops in Iraq (and whether that’s a fault more attributable to the conservatives or liberals)
Oh I was planning on going to MIT on a ROTC scholarship till I failed my physical (dang 4 eyes).
I just really dislike how our nation seems partitioned into these artificial categories where it seems that just because I’m an environmentalist and pretty liberal on social issues that I can’t also support our military. Or if you’re in the military, you can’t believe in global warming. We need more political parties….
DukehornParticipantVery true,
I grew up in a NASA town with a few astornauts on the street over (Jack Lousma for example) so I got to see the DoD spend as well, and my father worked on the F-16 figher and M-1 tank engine designs (thermal flow).
I don’t know if I’d agree with the inference that liberals are anti-military. Granted some are (on the very far left), but I’d say a large number of my friends and I are cognizant of the necessity of the military and the need for military RnD and spend. (with the additional caveat that these friends and I grew up middle class so we probably have more military connections than the current generation). But this raises a sociological question about whether the widening economic gap between the rich and the poor serves to insulate many of us from the current sacrifices made by our troops in Iraq (and whether that’s a fault more attributable to the conservatives or liberals)
Oh I was planning on going to MIT on a ROTC scholarship till I failed my physical (dang 4 eyes).
I just really dislike how our nation seems partitioned into these artificial categories where it seems that just because I’m an environmentalist and pretty liberal on social issues that I can’t also support our military. Or if you’re in the military, you can’t believe in global warming. We need more political parties….
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