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Participant[quote=Rustico]Of the people I have observed to own guns for any purpose, I would rather at least 50% of them did not. I imagine the ratio is similar for the people who have guns but I don’t know it.
Not sure I see how civilians owning guns is a sure defense against the government. They have bigger guns and perhaps half the armed civilians or more will take their side. We will always either have a government military or a military government anyway.I do agree though, that if guns are made illegal, then only the worst bastards will have them, the government and criminals.[/quote]I don’t buy guns to fight against the government. Anyone with that mentality is retarded. Most people I know that own guns have them to protect their home. Sure, if we were attacked like the movie “red dawn” you might want to have a gun…but lets get realistic. That is what our military is for.
ParticipantI can’t watch the vid because it is blocked at work but I am an avid believer that gun laws only inhibit good citizens. In CA you have to pass a hand gun safety test and if you have a felony you can’t own a gun. THIS IS GOOD! They also require a 10 hold period from purchase date to pickup for every gun you buy. This is a cooling off period. Sort of retarded if you already own a gun/guns. They also restrict what types of guns can be sold. Fully automatic…I can understand that. However, a majority of guns are not on the CA roster and can’t be sold in CA. These guns are no different then similar guns on the roster. The reason is that a company has to pay the state of CA a fee to get each model they sell on the roster. It is basically a way for the state to extort money from these companies. It has nothing to do with safety. Because of this, a lot of companies basically give CA the bird and don’t even ship here. They don’t want to deal with our multitude of laws. Criminals will circumvent all these laws and it only hinders law abiding citizens.
Cities like Chicago do not allow guns in the city and they are some of the highest crime areas. Chicago has the most police officers in the country killed by gun fire. 1 in 89 residents become a victim of violent crimes.
It is the age old argument that guns don’t kill people, people do. Blaming guns is like blaming alcohol for drunk driving. This country loves trying to take the responsibility away from the individual and placing it on something/someone else.
If you were a criminal would you rather rob a house in D.C., Chicago, CA (strict gun laws on citizens) or TX?
ParticipantI can’t watch the vid because it is blocked at work but I am an avid believer that gun laws only inhibit good citizens. In CA you have to pass a hand gun safety test and if you have a felony you can’t own a gun. THIS IS GOOD! They also require a 10 hold period from purchase date to pickup for every gun you buy. This is a cooling off period. Sort of retarded if you already own a gun/guns. They also restrict what types of guns can be sold. Fully automatic…I can understand that. However, a majority of guns are not on the CA roster and can’t be sold in CA. These guns are no different then similar guns on the roster. The reason is that a company has to pay the state of CA a fee to get each model they sell on the roster. It is basically a way for the state to extort money from these companies. It has nothing to do with safety. Because of this, a lot of companies basically give CA the bird and don’t even ship here. They don’t want to deal with our multitude of laws. Criminals will circumvent all these laws and it only hinders law abiding citizens.
Cities like Chicago do not allow guns in the city and they are some of the highest crime areas. Chicago has the most police officers in the country killed by gun fire. 1 in 89 residents become a victim of violent crimes.
It is the age old argument that guns don’t kill people, people do. Blaming guns is like blaming alcohol for drunk driving. This country loves trying to take the responsibility away from the individual and placing it on something/someone else.
If you were a criminal would you rather rob a house in D.C., Chicago, CA (strict gun laws on citizens) or TX?
ParticipantI can’t watch the vid because it is blocked at work but I am an avid believer that gun laws only inhibit good citizens. In CA you have to pass a hand gun safety test and if you have a felony you can’t own a gun. THIS IS GOOD! They also require a 10 hold period from purchase date to pickup for every gun you buy. This is a cooling off period. Sort of retarded if you already own a gun/guns. They also restrict what types of guns can be sold. Fully automatic…I can understand that. However, a majority of guns are not on the CA roster and can’t be sold in CA. These guns are no different then similar guns on the roster. The reason is that a company has to pay the state of CA a fee to get each model they sell on the roster. It is basically a way for the state to extort money from these companies. It has nothing to do with safety. Because of this, a lot of companies basically give CA the bird and don’t even ship here. They don’t want to deal with our multitude of laws. Criminals will circumvent all these laws and it only hinders law abiding citizens.
Cities like Chicago do not allow guns in the city and they are some of the highest crime areas. Chicago has the most police officers in the country killed by gun fire. 1 in 89 residents become a victim of violent crimes.
It is the age old argument that guns don’t kill people, people do. Blaming guns is like blaming alcohol for drunk driving. This country loves trying to take the responsibility away from the individual and placing it on something/someone else.
If you were a criminal would you rather rob a house in D.C., Chicago, CA (strict gun laws on citizens) or TX?
ParticipantI can’t watch the vid because it is blocked at work but I am an avid believer that gun laws only inhibit good citizens. In CA you have to pass a hand gun safety test and if you have a felony you can’t own a gun. THIS IS GOOD! They also require a 10 hold period from purchase date to pickup for every gun you buy. This is a cooling off period. Sort of retarded if you already own a gun/guns. They also restrict what types of guns can be sold. Fully automatic…I can understand that. However, a majority of guns are not on the CA roster and can’t be sold in CA. These guns are no different then similar guns on the roster. The reason is that a company has to pay the state of CA a fee to get each model they sell on the roster. It is basically a way for the state to extort money from these companies. It has nothing to do with safety. Because of this, a lot of companies basically give CA the bird and don’t even ship here. They don’t want to deal with our multitude of laws. Criminals will circumvent all these laws and it only hinders law abiding citizens.
Cities like Chicago do not allow guns in the city and they are some of the highest crime areas. Chicago has the most police officers in the country killed by gun fire. 1 in 89 residents become a victim of violent crimes.
It is the age old argument that guns don’t kill people, people do. Blaming guns is like blaming alcohol for drunk driving. This country loves trying to take the responsibility away from the individual and placing it on something/someone else.
If you were a criminal would you rather rob a house in D.C., Chicago, CA (strict gun laws on citizens) or TX?
ParticipantI can’t watch the vid because it is blocked at work but I am an avid believer that gun laws only inhibit good citizens. In CA you have to pass a hand gun safety test and if you have a felony you can’t own a gun. THIS IS GOOD! They also require a 10 hold period from purchase date to pickup for every gun you buy. This is a cooling off period. Sort of retarded if you already own a gun/guns. They also restrict what types of guns can be sold. Fully automatic…I can understand that. However, a majority of guns are not on the CA roster and can’t be sold in CA. These guns are no different then similar guns on the roster. The reason is that a company has to pay the state of CA a fee to get each model they sell on the roster. It is basically a way for the state to extort money from these companies. It has nothing to do with safety. Because of this, a lot of companies basically give CA the bird and don’t even ship here. They don’t want to deal with our multitude of laws. Criminals will circumvent all these laws and it only hinders law abiding citizens.
Cities like Chicago do not allow guns in the city and they are some of the highest crime areas. Chicago has the most police officers in the country killed by gun fire. 1 in 89 residents become a victim of violent crimes.
It is the age old argument that guns don’t kill people, people do. Blaming guns is like blaming alcohol for drunk driving. This country loves trying to take the responsibility away from the individual and placing it on something/someone else.
If you were a criminal would you rather rob a house in D.C., Chicago, CA (strict gun laws on citizens) or TX?
Participant[quote=briansd1]
The American right wing claims that Obama is Hitler. But yet it’s undeniable that American White supremacist groups are right wing. [/quote]LOL…man are you an idiot sometimes. How conveniently you forget the Bush era and how the left claimed the same but many more times than the comparison of Obama.
Participant[quote=briansd1]
The American right wing claims that Obama is Hitler. But yet it’s undeniable that American White supremacist groups are right wing. [/quote]LOL…man are you an idiot sometimes. How conveniently you forget the Bush era and how the left claimed the same but many more times than the comparison of Obama.
Participant[quote=briansd1]
The American right wing claims that Obama is Hitler. But yet it’s undeniable that American White supremacist groups are right wing. [/quote]LOL…man are you an idiot sometimes. How conveniently you forget the Bush era and how the left claimed the same but many more times than the comparison of Obama.
Participant[quote=briansd1]
The American right wing claims that Obama is Hitler. But yet it’s undeniable that American White supremacist groups are right wing. [/quote]LOL…man are you an idiot sometimes. How conveniently you forget the Bush era and how the left claimed the same but many more times than the comparison of Obama.
Participant[quote=briansd1]
The American right wing claims that Obama is Hitler. But yet it’s undeniable that American White supremacist groups are right wing. [/quote]LOL…man are you an idiot sometimes. How conveniently you forget the Bush era and how the left claimed the same but many more times than the comparison of Obama.
Participant[quote=Arraya]Most left wing violence and “radicalism” is in Europe. We don’t really have a radical left in the US. That is just kind of the way things turned out – the McCarthy era was effective in that respect, IMO. As much as the right tries to create one.
Still, the issue of race is usually associated, for historical reasons, with “right wing” and that is all I was pointing out. Fringe, yes, but right-wing nonetheless[/quote]
Weather underground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground_%28organization%29
In an interview from the 1982 documentary No Place To Hide that recently surfaced, Grathwohl discussed what the Weathermen intended to do after overthrowing the U.S. government, including what they would do with those Americans who refused to embrace communism.
I asked, “Well what is going to happen to those people we can’t reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?” And the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated.
And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers.
And when I say “eliminate,” I mean “kill.”
Twenty-five million people.
I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people.
And they were dead serious.
More:
When I objected to Billy Ayers that more innocent people would be killed in the restaurant, he replied, “Innocent people have to die in a revolution.” Billy also acknowledged during a criticism session in Buffalo that Bernadine placed the bomb at the Park Police Station which resulted in the death of Police Officer McDonnell.
Link:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/eyewitness-to-the-ayers-revolution/
Only in Europe my ass.
Participant[quote=Arraya]Most left wing violence and “radicalism” is in Europe. We don’t really have a radical left in the US. That is just kind of the way things turned out – the McCarthy era was effective in that respect, IMO. As much as the right tries to create one.
Still, the issue of race is usually associated, for historical reasons, with “right wing” and that is all I was pointing out. Fringe, yes, but right-wing nonetheless[/quote]
Weather underground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground_%28organization%29
In an interview from the 1982 documentary No Place To Hide that recently surfaced, Grathwohl discussed what the Weathermen intended to do after overthrowing the U.S. government, including what they would do with those Americans who refused to embrace communism.
I asked, “Well what is going to happen to those people we can’t reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?” And the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated.
And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers.
And when I say “eliminate,” I mean “kill.”
Twenty-five million people.
I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people.
And they were dead serious.
More:
When I objected to Billy Ayers that more innocent people would be killed in the restaurant, he replied, “Innocent people have to die in a revolution.” Billy also acknowledged during a criticism session in Buffalo that Bernadine placed the bomb at the Park Police Station which resulted in the death of Police Officer McDonnell.
Link:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/eyewitness-to-the-ayers-revolution/
Only in Europe my ass.
Participant[quote=Arraya]Most left wing violence and “radicalism” is in Europe. We don’t really have a radical left in the US. That is just kind of the way things turned out – the McCarthy era was effective in that respect, IMO. As much as the right tries to create one.
Still, the issue of race is usually associated, for historical reasons, with “right wing” and that is all I was pointing out. Fringe, yes, but right-wing nonetheless[/quote]
Weather underground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground_%28organization%29
In an interview from the 1982 documentary No Place To Hide that recently surfaced, Grathwohl discussed what the Weathermen intended to do after overthrowing the U.S. government, including what they would do with those Americans who refused to embrace communism.
I asked, “Well what is going to happen to those people we can’t reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?” And the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated.
And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers.
And when I say “eliminate,” I mean “kill.”
Twenty-five million people.
I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people.
And they were dead serious.
More:
When I objected to Billy Ayers that more innocent people would be killed in the restaurant, he replied, “Innocent people have to die in a revolution.” Billy also acknowledged during a criticism session in Buffalo that Bernadine placed the bomb at the Park Police Station which resulted in the death of Police Officer McDonnell.
Link:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/eyewitness-to-the-ayers-revolution/
Only in Europe my ass.
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