[Djshakes]

[quote=bubba99][quote=Djshakes]OHHHHHHHH….Internet tough guy.

Are you retarded? You are on here saying that capital expenditures are more of an expense than provider/physician expenses. They don’t even come close.

Are you insinuating that Scripps, or “Scripts” as you spell it, model is extremely different than the rest of the institutions in the country? If so, you are clueless. You see, they have this thing called MGMA benchmarking. It is an organization that pretty much compares all metrics of institutions of the similar makeup. I can guarantee there are not wild swings in stats.

Also, the numbers I pulled weren’t budget. They were actuals, for all clinics only. So explain to me how you think capital expenditures exceed physician costs. Total capital expenditures for all entities averages $127M per year. The clinics physician costs alone exceed that. Would you like me to have the capital manager email you the detail?[/quote]

Not sure I think capital is the only expense, just the hidden rapidly growing one. But, send me a referene for access to the budget you cite, and I will examine in detail, and it there are no hidden items, like leases on equipment, SPV holding companies, management company fees, or the like,and those expenses are not growing by leaps and bounds, I will post “Djshakes is smarter than Bubba99”

As for being called retarded, I dont like it. It just kills me that the courage to slander only comes to some via the internet, not in person. And Scripts vs Scripps is an inside hospital joke.[/quote]

FYI, any purchase over $5000 or any TI over $15,000 must go through our capital process. This also includes all leases that are considered capital. These are GAAP requirements….so there are no “hidden fees”.

[Djshakes]

[quote=bubba99][quote=Djshakes]OHHHHHHHH….Internet tough guy.

Are you retarded? You are on here saying that capital expenditures are more of an expense than provider/physician expenses. They don’t even come close.

Are you insinuating that Scripps, or “Scripts” as you spell it, model is extremely different than the rest of the institutions in the country? If so, you are clueless. You see, they have this thing called MGMA benchmarking. It is an organization that pretty much compares all metrics of institutions of the similar makeup. I can guarantee there are not wild swings in stats.

Also, the numbers I pulled weren’t budget. They were actuals, for all clinics only. So explain to me how you think capital expenditures exceed physician costs. Total capital expenditures for all entities averages $127M per year. The clinics physician costs alone exceed that. Would you like me to have the capital manager email you the detail?[/quote]

Not sure I think capital is the only expense, just the hidden rapidly growing one. But, send me a referene for access to the budget you cite, and I will examine in detail, and it there are no hidden items, like leases on equipment, SPV holding companies, management company fees, or the like,and those expenses are not growing by leaps and bounds, I will post “Djshakes is smarter than Bubba99”

As for being called retarded, I dont like it. It just kills me that the courage to slander only comes to some via the internet, not in person. And Scripts vs Scripps is an inside hospital joke.[/quote]

FYI, any purchase over $5000 or any TI over $15,000 must go through our capital process. This also includes all leases that are considered capital. These are GAAP requirements….so there are no “hidden fees”.

[Djshakes]

[quote=bubba99][quote=Djshakes]OHHHHHHHH….Internet tough guy.

Are you retarded? You are on here saying that capital expenditures are more of an expense than provider/physician expenses. They don’t even come close.

Are you insinuating that Scripps, or “Scripts” as you spell it, model is extremely different than the rest of the institutions in the country? If so, you are clueless. You see, they have this thing called MGMA benchmarking. It is an organization that pretty much compares all metrics of institutions of the similar makeup. I can guarantee there are not wild swings in stats.

Also, the numbers I pulled weren’t budget. They were actuals, for all clinics only. So explain to me how you think capital expenditures exceed physician costs. Total capital expenditures for all entities averages $127M per year. The clinics physician costs alone exceed that. Would you like me to have the capital manager email you the detail?[/quote]

Not sure I think capital is the only expense, just the hidden rapidly growing one. But, send me a referene for access to the budget you cite, and I will examine in detail, and it there are no hidden items, like leases on equipment, SPV holding companies, management company fees, or the like,and those expenses are not growing by leaps and bounds, I will post “Djshakes is smarter than Bubba99”

As for being called retarded, I dont like it. It just kills me that the courage to slander only comes to some via the internet, not in person. And Scripts vs Scripps is an inside hospital joke.[/quote]

Buddy, I’m a SFA for Scripps and handle all the capital acquisitions for two large entities in the system. This isn’t a debate in which I have any skin in proving what line item is a greater expense. Why would I care? However, when someone states something with no facts and I know the truth, I will prove them wrong.

I pulled all the data from a live pivot regarding PSA expenses. I emailed the system capital manager to get a yearly spend.

I have provided facts. You have provided guesstimates…..extremely wrong ones. Anyone that reads these posts will clearly see I know what I am talking about.

[Djshakes]

[quote=bubba99][quote=Djshakes]OHHHHHHHH….Internet tough guy.

Are you retarded? You are on here saying that capital expenditures are more of an expense than provider/physician expenses. They don’t even come close.

Are you insinuating that Scripps, or “Scripts” as you spell it, model is extremely different than the rest of the institutions in the country? If so, you are clueless. You see, they have this thing called MGMA benchmarking. It is an organization that pretty much compares all metrics of institutions of the similar makeup. I can guarantee there are not wild swings in stats.

Also, the numbers I pulled weren’t budget. They were actuals, for all clinics only. So explain to me how you think capital expenditures exceed physician costs. Total capital expenditures for all entities averages $127M per year. The clinics physician costs alone exceed that. Would you like me to have the capital manager email you the detail?[/quote]

Not sure I think capital is the only expense, just the hidden rapidly growing one. But, send me a referene for access to the budget you cite, and I will examine in detail, and it there are no hidden items, like leases on equipment, SPV holding companies, management company fees, or the like,and those expenses are not growing by leaps and bounds, I will post “Djshakes is smarter than Bubba99”

As for being called retarded, I dont like it. It just kills me that the courage to slander only comes to some via the internet, not in person. And Scripts vs Scripps is an inside hospital joke.[/quote]

Buddy, I’m a SFA for Scripps and handle all the capital acquisitions for two large entities in the system. This isn’t a debate in which I have any skin in proving what line item is a greater expense. Why would I care? However, when someone states something with no facts and I know the truth, I will prove them wrong.

I pulled all the data from a live pivot regarding PSA expenses. I emailed the system capital manager to get a yearly spend.

I have provided facts. You have provided guesstimates…..extremely wrong ones. Anyone that reads these posts will clearly see I know what I am talking about.

[Djshakes]

[quote=bubba99][quote=Djshakes]OHHHHHHHH….Internet tough guy.

Are you retarded? You are on here saying that capital expenditures are more of an expense than provider/physician expenses. They don’t even come close.

Are you insinuating that Scripps, or “Scripts” as you spell it, model is extremely different than the rest of the institutions in the country? If so, you are clueless. You see, they have this thing called MGMA benchmarking. It is an organization that pretty much compares all metrics of institutions of the similar makeup. I can guarantee there are not wild swings in stats.

Also, the numbers I pulled weren’t budget. They were actuals, for all clinics only. So explain to me how you think capital expenditures exceed physician costs. Total capital expenditures for all entities averages $127M per year. The clinics physician costs alone exceed that. Would you like me to have the capital manager email you the detail?[/quote]

Not sure I think capital is the only expense, just the hidden rapidly growing one. But, send me a referene for access to the budget you cite, and I will examine in detail, and it there are no hidden items, like leases on equipment, SPV holding companies, management company fees, or the like,and those expenses are not growing by leaps and bounds, I will post “Djshakes is smarter than Bubba99”

As for being called retarded, I dont like it. It just kills me that the courage to slander only comes to some via the internet, not in person. And Scripts vs Scripps is an inside hospital joke.[/quote]

Buddy, I’m a SFA for Scripps and handle all the capital acquisitions for two large entities in the system. This isn’t a debate in which I have any skin in proving what line item is a greater expense. Why would I care? However, when someone states something with no facts and I know the truth, I will prove them wrong.

I pulled all the data from a live pivot regarding PSA expenses. I emailed the system capital manager to get a yearly spend.

I have provided facts. You have provided guesstimates…..extremely wrong ones. Anyone that reads these posts will clearly see I know what I am talking about.

[Djshakes]

[quote=bubba99][quote=Djshakes]OHHHHHHHH….Internet tough guy.

Are you retarded? You are on here saying that capital expenditures are more of an expense than provider/physician expenses. They don’t even come close.

Are you insinuating that Scripps, or “Scripts” as you spell it, model is extremely different than the rest of the institutions in the country? If so, you are clueless. You see, they have this thing called MGMA benchmarking. It is an organization that pretty much compares all metrics of institutions of the similar makeup. I can guarantee there are not wild swings in stats.

Also, the numbers I pulled weren’t budget. They were actuals, for all clinics only. So explain to me how you think capital expenditures exceed physician costs. Total capital expenditures for all entities averages $127M per year. The clinics physician costs alone exceed that. Would you like me to have the capital manager email you the detail?[/quote]

Not sure I think capital is the only expense, just the hidden rapidly growing one. But, send me a referene for access to the budget you cite, and I will examine in detail, and it there are no hidden items, like leases on equipment, SPV holding companies, management company fees, or the like,and those expenses are not growing by leaps and bounds, I will post “Djshakes is smarter than Bubba99”

As for being called retarded, I dont like it. It just kills me that the courage to slander only comes to some via the internet, not in person. And Scripts vs Scripps is an inside hospital joke.[/quote]

Buddy, I’m a SFA for Scripps and handle all the capital acquisitions for two large entities in the system. This isn’t a debate in which I have any skin in proving what line item is a greater expense. Why would I care? However, when someone states something with no facts and I know the truth, I will prove them wrong.

I pulled all the data from a live pivot regarding PSA expenses. I emailed the system capital manager to get a yearly spend.

I have provided facts. You have provided guesstimates…..extremely wrong ones. Anyone that reads these posts will clearly see I know what I am talking about.

[Djshakes]

[quote=bubba99][quote=Djshakes]OHHHHHHHH….Internet tough guy.

Are you retarded? You are on here saying that capital expenditures are more of an expense than provider/physician expenses. They don’t even come close.

Are you insinuating that Scripps, or “Scripts” as you spell it, model is extremely different than the rest of the institutions in the country? If so, you are clueless. You see, they have this thing called MGMA benchmarking. It is an organization that pretty much compares all metrics of institutions of the similar makeup. I can guarantee there are not wild swings in stats.

Also, the numbers I pulled weren’t budget. They were actuals, for all clinics only. So explain to me how you think capital expenditures exceed physician costs. Total capital expenditures for all entities averages $127M per year. The clinics physician costs alone exceed that. Would you like me to have the capital manager email you the detail?[/quote]

Not sure I think capital is the only expense, just the hidden rapidly growing one. But, send me a referene for access to the budget you cite, and I will examine in detail, and it there are no hidden items, like leases on equipment, SPV holding companies, management company fees, or the like,and those expenses are not growing by leaps and bounds, I will post “Djshakes is smarter than Bubba99”

As for being called retarded, I dont like it. It just kills me that the courage to slander only comes to some via the internet, not in person. And Scripts vs Scripps is an inside hospital joke.[/quote]

Buddy, I’m a SFA for Scripps and handle all the capital acquisitions for two large entities in the system. This isn’t a debate in which I have any skin in proving what line item is a greater expense. Why would I care? However, when someone states something with no facts and I know the truth, I will prove them wrong.

I pulled all the data from a live pivot regarding PSA expenses. I emailed the system capital manager to get a yearly spend.

I have provided facts. You have provided guesstimates…..extremely wrong ones. Anyone that reads these posts will clearly see I know what I am talking about.

[Djshakes]

OHHHHHHHH….Internet tough guy.

Are you retarded? You are on here saying that capital expenditures are more of an expense than provider/physician expenses. They don’t even come close.

Are you insinuating that Scripps, or “Scripts” as you spell it, model is extremely different than the rest of the institutions in the country? If so, you are clueless. You see, they have this thing called MGMA benchmarking. It is an organization that pretty much compares all metrics of institutions of the similar makeup. I can guarantee there are not wild swings in stats.

Also, the numbers I pulled weren’t budget. They were actuals, for all clinics only. So explain to me how you think capital expenditures exceed physician costs. Total capital expenditures for all entities averages $127M per year. The clinics physician costs alone exceed that. Would you like me to have the capital manager email you the detail?

[Djshakes]

OHHHHHHHH….Internet tough guy.

Are you retarded? You are on here saying that capital expenditures are more of an expense than provider/physician expenses. They don’t even come close.

Are you insinuating that Scripps, or “Scripts” as you spell it, model is extremely different than the rest of the institutions in the country? If so, you are clueless. You see, they have this thing called MGMA benchmarking. It is an organization that pretty much compares all metrics of institutions of the similar makeup. I can guarantee there are not wild swings in stats.

Also, the numbers I pulled weren’t budget. They were actuals, for all clinics only. So explain to me how you think capital expenditures exceed physician costs. Total capital expenditures for all entities averages $127M per year. The clinics physician costs alone exceed that. Would you like me to have the capital manager email you the detail?

[Djshakes]

OHHHHHHHH….Internet tough guy.

Are you retarded? You are on here saying that capital expenditures are more of an expense than provider/physician expenses. They don’t even come close.

Are you insinuating that Scripps, or “Scripts” as you spell it, model is extremely different than the rest of the institutions in the country? If so, you are clueless. You see, they have this thing called MGMA benchmarking. It is an organization that pretty much compares all metrics of institutions of the similar makeup. I can guarantee there are not wild swings in stats.

Also, the numbers I pulled weren’t budget. They were actuals, for all clinics only. So explain to me how you think capital expenditures exceed physician costs. Total capital expenditures for all entities averages $127M per year. The clinics physician costs alone exceed that. Would you like me to have the capital manager email you the detail?

[Djshakes]

OHHHHHHHH….Internet tough guy.

Are you retarded? You are on here saying that capital expenditures are more of an expense than provider/physician expenses. They don’t even come close.

Are you insinuating that Scripps, or “Scripts” as you spell it, model is extremely different than the rest of the institutions in the country? If so, you are clueless. You see, they have this thing called MGMA benchmarking. It is an organization that pretty much compares all metrics of institutions of the similar makeup. I can guarantee there are not wild swings in stats.

Also, the numbers I pulled weren’t budget. They were actuals, for all clinics only. So explain to me how you think capital expenditures exceed physician costs. Total capital expenditures for all entities averages $127M per year. The clinics physician costs alone exceed that. Would you like me to have the capital manager email you the detail?

[Djshakes]

OHHHHHHHH….Internet tough guy.

Are you retarded? You are on here saying that capital expenditures are more of an expense than provider/physician expenses. They don’t even come close.

Are you insinuating that Scripps, or “Scripts” as you spell it, model is extremely different than the rest of the institutions in the country? If so, you are clueless. You see, they have this thing called MGMA benchmarking. It is an organization that pretty much compares all metrics of institutions of the similar makeup. I can guarantee there are not wild swings in stats.

Also, the numbers I pulled weren’t budget. They were actuals, for all clinics only. So explain to me how you think capital expenditures exceed physician costs. Total capital expenditures for all entities averages $127M per year. The clinics physician costs alone exceed that. Would you like me to have the capital manager email you the detail?

[Djshakes]

[quote=zk][quote=Djshakes]
The thread hit page four and was already pretty far off of its intended mark. So I got a little slap happy. Big deal.

[/quote]

It’s not a big deal. I was just exposing it for what it was. Which was thoughtless, ridiculous partisan slapfighting.

[quote=Djshakes]

I suggest you read a majority of my posts before making quick snap judgments.

[/quote]

I’m not making any snap judgement. I’ve been observing our nation’s political discourse for a couple decades, and I’ve noticed over that time that, to an ever-increasing degree, the discussion is dominated by point scoring and that a real exchange of ideas is rare.

[quote=Djshakes]

I’m reading a lot of whining in your post and little of what you are whining about, suggestions to fix the problem. [/quote]

Wow, have you ever got that all wrong.

First of all, you’ll have to show me the parts that you consider “whining.” Or is that just more of your thoughtless slapfighting?

[quote=Djshakes]
I just re-read every post you had in this thread and you offered absolutely 0 to the thread[/quote]

I haven’t offered my suggestions to fix the budget because I think Jerry Brown is doing it mostly right. I’d be a little harsher on illegal immigrants (if it would save money, which it might) and I’d handle prisoners a bit differently. But those are minor quibbles and, like I said, I think he’s doing a great job. He’s our first fiscally responsible governor in a long, long time. So, if I think he’s doing it mostly right, my suggestion would be to support him. Perhaps I should’ve made that more clear.

My other point would be that bitching about Jerry Brown without having any idea what you would do that would actually work subtracts from the discourse rather than adding to it.

[quote=Djshakes]
other than asking snide questions of other posters diverting responsibility to offer any original though.
[/quote]

Snide questions? Asking someone what better ideas they have than someone they’re saying has bad ideas? Is that what you’re talking about? Explain how those are snide questions.

[quote=Djshakes]Contribute or STFU. We have enough whiners on here already.[/quote]

Again, show me the whining.

As far as my contributions:

I was trying to get an exchange of ideas started on the budget. My method involves asking questions. Had they been answered, they would’ve been followed by a discussion. They weren’t answered, so no discussion ensued between me and the people I was asking questions. If you want to answer what you would do, I’d be happy to have a discussion about it.[/quote]

I wasn’t around when Jerry was in office before. I hear from some that he is a loon, some say he is in the union’s pockets, some liked him. I have never heard anyone give him rave reviews….which makes me wonder why this state would elect him a second term. I’m all for giving someone a second chance. I am apprehensive as if you can’t get it done the first time than most likely the same approach won’t work a second. However, maybe he will take a different approach. We will have to see.

I don’t think the thread is about his performance as he has recently been elected. I think it is about the years of politics that got us into this mess from both sides of the isle and if it is too far gone to fix. Have we passed the tipping point? I think half would argue we have.

[Djshakes]

[quote=zk][quote=Djshakes]
The thread hit page four and was already pretty far off of its intended mark. So I got a little slap happy. Big deal.

[/quote]

It’s not a big deal. I was just exposing it for what it was. Which was thoughtless, ridiculous partisan slapfighting.

[quote=Djshakes]

I suggest you read a majority of my posts before making quick snap judgments.

[/quote]

I’m not making any snap judgement. I’ve been observing our nation’s political discourse for a couple decades, and I’ve noticed over that time that, to an ever-increasing degree, the discussion is dominated by point scoring and that a real exchange of ideas is rare.

[quote=Djshakes]

I’m reading a lot of whining in your post and little of what you are whining about, suggestions to fix the problem. [/quote]

Wow, have you ever got that all wrong.

First of all, you’ll have to show me the parts that you consider “whining.” Or is that just more of your thoughtless slapfighting?

[quote=Djshakes]
I just re-read every post you had in this thread and you offered absolutely 0 to the thread[/quote]

I haven’t offered my suggestions to fix the budget because I think Jerry Brown is doing it mostly right. I’d be a little harsher on illegal immigrants (if it would save money, which it might) and I’d handle prisoners a bit differently. But those are minor quibbles and, like I said, I think he’s doing a great job. He’s our first fiscally responsible governor in a long, long time. So, if I think he’s doing it mostly right, my suggestion would be to support him. Perhaps I should’ve made that more clear.

My other point would be that bitching about Jerry Brown without having any idea what you would do that would actually work subtracts from the discourse rather than adding to it.

[quote=Djshakes]
other than asking snide questions of other posters diverting responsibility to offer any original though.
[/quote]

Snide questions? Asking someone what better ideas they have than someone they’re saying has bad ideas? Is that what you’re talking about? Explain how those are snide questions.

[quote=Djshakes]Contribute or STFU. We have enough whiners on here already.[/quote]

Again, show me the whining.

As far as my contributions:

I was trying to get an exchange of ideas started on the budget. My method involves asking questions. Had they been answered, they would’ve been followed by a discussion. They weren’t answered, so no discussion ensued between me and the people I was asking questions. If you want to answer what you would do, I’d be happy to have a discussion about it.[/quote]

I wasn’t around when Jerry was in office before. I hear from some that he is a loon, some say he is in the union’s pockets, some liked him. I have never heard anyone give him rave reviews….which makes me wonder why this state would elect him a second term. I’m all for giving someone a second chance. I am apprehensive as if you can’t get it done the first time than most likely the same approach won’t work a second. However, maybe he will take a different approach. We will have to see.

I don’t think the thread is about his performance as he has recently been elected. I think it is about the years of politics that got us into this mess from both sides of the isle and if it is too far gone to fix. Have we passed the tipping point? I think half would argue we have.

[Djshakes]

[quote=zk][quote=Djshakes]
The thread hit page four and was already pretty far off of its intended mark. So I got a little slap happy. Big deal.

[/quote]

It’s not a big deal. I was just exposing it for what it was. Which was thoughtless, ridiculous partisan slapfighting.

[quote=Djshakes]

I suggest you read a majority of my posts before making quick snap judgments.

[/quote]

I’m not making any snap judgement. I’ve been observing our nation’s political discourse for a couple decades, and I’ve noticed over that time that, to an ever-increasing degree, the discussion is dominated by point scoring and that a real exchange of ideas is rare.

[quote=Djshakes]

I’m reading a lot of whining in your post and little of what you are whining about, suggestions to fix the problem. [/quote]

Wow, have you ever got that all wrong.

First of all, you’ll have to show me the parts that you consider “whining.” Or is that just more of your thoughtless slapfighting?

[quote=Djshakes]
I just re-read every post you had in this thread and you offered absolutely 0 to the thread[/quote]

I haven’t offered my suggestions to fix the budget because I think Jerry Brown is doing it mostly right. I’d be a little harsher on illegal immigrants (if it would save money, which it might) and I’d handle prisoners a bit differently. But those are minor quibbles and, like I said, I think he’s doing a great job. He’s our first fiscally responsible governor in a long, long time. So, if I think he’s doing it mostly right, my suggestion would be to support him. Perhaps I should’ve made that more clear.

My other point would be that bitching about Jerry Brown without having any idea what you would do that would actually work subtracts from the discourse rather than adding to it.

[quote=Djshakes]
other than asking snide questions of other posters diverting responsibility to offer any original though.
[/quote]

Snide questions? Asking someone what better ideas they have than someone they’re saying has bad ideas? Is that what you’re talking about? Explain how those are snide questions.

[quote=Djshakes]Contribute or STFU. We have enough whiners on here already.[/quote]

Again, show me the whining.

As far as my contributions:

I was trying to get an exchange of ideas started on the budget. My method involves asking questions. Had they been answered, they would’ve been followed by a discussion. They weren’t answered, so no discussion ensued between me and the people I was asking questions. If you want to answer what you would do, I’d be happy to have a discussion about it.[/quote]

I wasn’t around when Jerry was in office before. I hear from some that he is a loon, some say he is in the union’s pockets, some liked him. I have never heard anyone give him rave reviews….which makes me wonder why this state would elect him a second term. I’m all for giving someone a second chance. I am apprehensive as if you can’t get it done the first time than most likely the same approach won’t work a second. However, maybe he will take a different approach. We will have to see.

I don’t think the thread is about his performance as he has recently been elected. I think it is about the years of politics that got us into this mess from both sides of the isle and if it is too far gone to fix. Have we passed the tipping point? I think half would argue we have.

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