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Do you sleep with a gun in your bed? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.Do you drive around with an armored car, which many middle class people in Brazil do? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.
Do you drive on dirt roads for everyday normal driving? No, because we have Caltran, managed by the govt.
Do you worry about your country being invaded and conquered by foreign army, like Iraqis before US conquered it? (Never mind the consequences). No, because we have the armed forces, managed by the govt.
Operations by govt have their issues, no doubt. But current health insurance/care is far worse than what govt can do.[/quote]
Lets be clear, I have no issue with government run certain things. I just don’t expect great services for the money. Don’t even get me started about Caltran. They’re almost just as bad as the DMV. I love and respect our military. Like I said, government has its role/place. I’m not for total anarchy here.[/quote]And wouldn’t you agree that current health care system in US is a total anarchy? Paying more and more for less care, and it seems like many who paid insurance companies for years are kicked out when they really need it.
I prefer dealing with private companies/organizations when possible. Yes, getting a replacement credit card is pretty painless. Lose your driver’s license and it’s hassle to get it replaced.
But what alternative does the current private health insurance industry offer to fix the ‘anarchy’ they’ve put us into?
Participant[quote=AN][quote=dbapig]
Do you sleep with a gun in your bed? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.Do you drive around with an armored car, which many middle class people in Brazil do? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.
Do you drive on dirt roads for everyday normal driving? No, because we have Caltran, managed by the govt.
Do you worry about your country being invaded and conquered by foreign army, like Iraqis before US conquered it? (Never mind the consequences). No, because we have the armed forces, managed by the govt.
Operations by govt have their issues, no doubt. But current health insurance/care is far worse than what govt can do.[/quote]
Lets be clear, I have no issue with government run certain things. I just don’t expect great services for the money. Don’t even get me started about Caltran. They’re almost just as bad as the DMV. I love and respect our military. Like I said, government has its role/place. I’m not for total anarchy here.[/quote]And wouldn’t you agree that current health care system in US is a total anarchy? Paying more and more for less care, and it seems like many who paid insurance companies for years are kicked out when they really need it.
I prefer dealing with private companies/organizations when possible. Yes, getting a replacement credit card is pretty painless. Lose your driver’s license and it’s hassle to get it replaced.
But what alternative does the current private health insurance industry offer to fix the ‘anarchy’ they’ve put us into?
Participant[quote=AN][quote=dbapig]
Do you sleep with a gun in your bed? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.Do you drive around with an armored car, which many middle class people in Brazil do? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.
Do you drive on dirt roads for everyday normal driving? No, because we have Caltran, managed by the govt.
Do you worry about your country being invaded and conquered by foreign army, like Iraqis before US conquered it? (Never mind the consequences). No, because we have the armed forces, managed by the govt.
Operations by govt have their issues, no doubt. But current health insurance/care is far worse than what govt can do.[/quote]
Lets be clear, I have no issue with government run certain things. I just don’t expect great services for the money. Don’t even get me started about Caltran. They’re almost just as bad as the DMV. I love and respect our military. Like I said, government has its role/place. I’m not for total anarchy here.[/quote]And wouldn’t you agree that current health care system in US is a total anarchy? Paying more and more for less care, and it seems like many who paid insurance companies for years are kicked out when they really need it.
I prefer dealing with private companies/organizations when possible. Yes, getting a replacement credit card is pretty painless. Lose your driver’s license and it’s hassle to get it replaced.
But what alternative does the current private health insurance industry offer to fix the ‘anarchy’ they’ve put us into?
Participant[quote=AN][quote=dbapig]
Do you sleep with a gun in your bed? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.Do you drive around with an armored car, which many middle class people in Brazil do? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.
Do you drive on dirt roads for everyday normal driving? No, because we have Caltran, managed by the govt.
Do you worry about your country being invaded and conquered by foreign army, like Iraqis before US conquered it? (Never mind the consequences). No, because we have the armed forces, managed by the govt.
Operations by govt have their issues, no doubt. But current health insurance/care is far worse than what govt can do.[/quote]
Lets be clear, I have no issue with government run certain things. I just don’t expect great services for the money. Don’t even get me started about Caltran. They’re almost just as bad as the DMV. I love and respect our military. Like I said, government has its role/place. I’m not for total anarchy here.[/quote]And wouldn’t you agree that current health care system in US is a total anarchy? Paying more and more for less care, and it seems like many who paid insurance companies for years are kicked out when they really need it.
I prefer dealing with private companies/organizations when possible. Yes, getting a replacement credit card is pretty painless. Lose your driver’s license and it’s hassle to get it replaced.
But what alternative does the current private health insurance industry offer to fix the ‘anarchy’ they’ve put us into?
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]dbapig the autoinsurance example fails. You have to pay autoinsurance because when you drive you can kill someone and damage thier property. You must have autoinsurance to be able to drive. You should not be forced to pay health insurance to live. Come on now lets at least argue in a fair manner.
As far as ramming it through, you don’t ram something through that has alot of inherent problems just because you have tried to do it 12 years ago and failed. The dems have control for another 18 months.
Really now, with so much at stake, and I mean ALOT IS AT STAKE here, why can’t this be done with care and analysis. To say something that sucks is better then nothing becuase nothing REALLY sucks is something I don’t agree with.[/quote]
Auto insurance example. In a perfect world you’d have a guarantee that you won’t get sick or injured so that you aren’t forced to pay health insurance to live. But no one has such guarantee. And if that uninsured person somehow gets sick (because of lack of preventative care), all of us end up paying more, when it could’ve been prevented if he/she was insured. I’d say that’s a pretty fair argument.
I don’t like it being rammed through. My point is that the democrats want it done and they know it probably won’t get done if not done now. It’s not my preference either.
I want it done with care/analysis too. But Dems seem to think the longer it drags on the less likely it will get done.
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]dbapig the autoinsurance example fails. You have to pay autoinsurance because when you drive you can kill someone and damage thier property. You must have autoinsurance to be able to drive. You should not be forced to pay health insurance to live. Come on now lets at least argue in a fair manner.
As far as ramming it through, you don’t ram something through that has alot of inherent problems just because you have tried to do it 12 years ago and failed. The dems have control for another 18 months.
Really now, with so much at stake, and I mean ALOT IS AT STAKE here, why can’t this be done with care and analysis. To say something that sucks is better then nothing becuase nothing REALLY sucks is something I don’t agree with.[/quote]
Auto insurance example. In a perfect world you’d have a guarantee that you won’t get sick or injured so that you aren’t forced to pay health insurance to live. But no one has such guarantee. And if that uninsured person somehow gets sick (because of lack of preventative care), all of us end up paying more, when it could’ve been prevented if he/she was insured. I’d say that’s a pretty fair argument.
I don’t like it being rammed through. My point is that the democrats want it done and they know it probably won’t get done if not done now. It’s not my preference either.
I want it done with care/analysis too. But Dems seem to think the longer it drags on the less likely it will get done.
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]dbapig the autoinsurance example fails. You have to pay autoinsurance because when you drive you can kill someone and damage thier property. You must have autoinsurance to be able to drive. You should not be forced to pay health insurance to live. Come on now lets at least argue in a fair manner.
As far as ramming it through, you don’t ram something through that has alot of inherent problems just because you have tried to do it 12 years ago and failed. The dems have control for another 18 months.
Really now, with so much at stake, and I mean ALOT IS AT STAKE here, why can’t this be done with care and analysis. To say something that sucks is better then nothing becuase nothing REALLY sucks is something I don’t agree with.[/quote]
Auto insurance example. In a perfect world you’d have a guarantee that you won’t get sick or injured so that you aren’t forced to pay health insurance to live. But no one has such guarantee. And if that uninsured person somehow gets sick (because of lack of preventative care), all of us end up paying more, when it could’ve been prevented if he/she was insured. I’d say that’s a pretty fair argument.
I don’t like it being rammed through. My point is that the democrats want it done and they know it probably won’t get done if not done now. It’s not my preference either.
I want it done with care/analysis too. But Dems seem to think the longer it drags on the less likely it will get done.
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]dbapig the autoinsurance example fails. You have to pay autoinsurance because when you drive you can kill someone and damage thier property. You must have autoinsurance to be able to drive. You should not be forced to pay health insurance to live. Come on now lets at least argue in a fair manner.
As far as ramming it through, you don’t ram something through that has alot of inherent problems just because you have tried to do it 12 years ago and failed. The dems have control for another 18 months.
Really now, with so much at stake, and I mean ALOT IS AT STAKE here, why can’t this be done with care and analysis. To say something that sucks is better then nothing becuase nothing REALLY sucks is something I don’t agree with.[/quote]
Auto insurance example. In a perfect world you’d have a guarantee that you won’t get sick or injured so that you aren’t forced to pay health insurance to live. But no one has such guarantee. And if that uninsured person somehow gets sick (because of lack of preventative care), all of us end up paying more, when it could’ve been prevented if he/she was insured. I’d say that’s a pretty fair argument.
I don’t like it being rammed through. My point is that the democrats want it done and they know it probably won’t get done if not done now. It’s not my preference either.
I want it done with care/analysis too. But Dems seem to think the longer it drags on the less likely it will get done.
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]dbapig the autoinsurance example fails. You have to pay autoinsurance because when you drive you can kill someone and damage thier property. You must have autoinsurance to be able to drive. You should not be forced to pay health insurance to live. Come on now lets at least argue in a fair manner.
As far as ramming it through, you don’t ram something through that has alot of inherent problems just because you have tried to do it 12 years ago and failed. The dems have control for another 18 months.
Really now, with so much at stake, and I mean ALOT IS AT STAKE here, why can’t this be done with care and analysis. To say something that sucks is better then nothing becuase nothing REALLY sucks is something I don’t agree with.[/quote]
Auto insurance example. In a perfect world you’d have a guarantee that you won’t get sick or injured so that you aren’t forced to pay health insurance to live. But no one has such guarantee. And if that uninsured person somehow gets sick (because of lack of preventative care), all of us end up paying more, when it could’ve been prevented if he/she was insured. I’d say that’s a pretty fair argument.
I don’t like it being rammed through. My point is that the democrats want it done and they know it probably won’t get done if not done now. It’s not my preference either.
I want it done with care/analysis too. But Dems seem to think the longer it drags on the less likely it will get done.
Participant[quote=AN]
I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately?[/quote]Do you sleep with a gun in your bed? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.
Do you drive around with an armored car, which many middle class people in Brazil do? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.
Do you drive on dirt roads for everyday normal driving? No, because we have Caltran, managed by the govt.
Do you worry about your country being invaded and conquered by foreign army, like Iraqis before US conquered it? (Never mind the consequences). No, because we have the armed forces, managed by the govt.
Operations by govt have their issues, no doubt. But current health insurance/care is far worse than what govt can do.
Participant[quote=AN]
I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately?[/quote]Do you sleep with a gun in your bed? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.
Do you drive around with an armored car, which many middle class people in Brazil do? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.
Do you drive on dirt roads for everyday normal driving? No, because we have Caltran, managed by the govt.
Do you worry about your country being invaded and conquered by foreign army, like Iraqis before US conquered it? (Never mind the consequences). No, because we have the armed forces, managed by the govt.
Operations by govt have their issues, no doubt. But current health insurance/care is far worse than what govt can do.
Participant[quote=AN]
I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately?[/quote]Do you sleep with a gun in your bed? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.
Do you drive around with an armored car, which many middle class people in Brazil do? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.
Do you drive on dirt roads for everyday normal driving? No, because we have Caltran, managed by the govt.
Do you worry about your country being invaded and conquered by foreign army, like Iraqis before US conquered it? (Never mind the consequences). No, because we have the armed forces, managed by the govt.
Operations by govt have their issues, no doubt. But current health insurance/care is far worse than what govt can do.
Participant[quote=AN]
I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately?[/quote]Do you sleep with a gun in your bed? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.
Do you drive around with an armored car, which many middle class people in Brazil do? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.
Do you drive on dirt roads for everyday normal driving? No, because we have Caltran, managed by the govt.
Do you worry about your country being invaded and conquered by foreign army, like Iraqis before US conquered it? (Never mind the consequences). No, because we have the armed forces, managed by the govt.
Operations by govt have their issues, no doubt. But current health insurance/care is far worse than what govt can do.
Participant[quote=AN]
I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately?[/quote]Do you sleep with a gun in your bed? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.
Do you drive around with an armored car, which many middle class people in Brazil do? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.
Do you drive on dirt roads for everyday normal driving? No, because we have Caltran, managed by the govt.
Do you worry about your country being invaded and conquered by foreign army, like Iraqis before US conquered it? (Never mind the consequences). No, because we have the armed forces, managed by the govt.
Operations by govt have their issues, no doubt. But current health insurance/care is far worse than what govt can do.
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