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[quote=edna_mode]Another interesting twist is the mention that the profiled person has been “socking away money for retirement”. If she was doing it in an ERISA-qualified plan (most pensions and 401(k) are), then that money is largely JUDGEMENT-PROOF. A quick google suggests the only way for another party to take away retirement accounts is for family support (http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_compliance_pension.html). The Supreme Court upheld that IRAs are similarly shielded in 2005.(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24753-2005Apr4.html)

So another reason to top up those retirement accounts every year — not only do you diversify your taxation liability, you protect some of your assets against bankruptcy, lawsuits, etc.[/quote]

Good to know!

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[quote=edna_mode]Another interesting twist is the mention that the profiled person has been “socking away money for retirement”. If she was doing it in an ERISA-qualified plan (most pensions and 401(k) are), then that money is largely JUDGEMENT-PROOF. A quick google suggests the only way for another party to take away retirement accounts is for family support (http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_compliance_pension.html). The Supreme Court upheld that IRAs are similarly shielded in 2005.(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24753-2005Apr4.html)

So another reason to top up those retirement accounts every year — not only do you diversify your taxation liability, you protect some of your assets against bankruptcy, lawsuits, etc.[/quote]

Good to know!

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[quote=edna_mode]Another interesting twist is the mention that the profiled person has been “socking away money for retirement”. If she was doing it in an ERISA-qualified plan (most pensions and 401(k) are), then that money is largely JUDGEMENT-PROOF. A quick google suggests the only way for another party to take away retirement accounts is for family support (http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_compliance_pension.html). The Supreme Court upheld that IRAs are similarly shielded in 2005.(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24753-2005Apr4.html)

So another reason to top up those retirement accounts every year — not only do you diversify your taxation liability, you protect some of your assets against bankruptcy, lawsuits, etc.[/quote]

Good to know!

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[quote=edna_mode]Another interesting twist is the mention that the profiled person has been “socking away money for retirement”. If she was doing it in an ERISA-qualified plan (most pensions and 401(k) are), then that money is largely JUDGEMENT-PROOF. A quick google suggests the only way for another party to take away retirement accounts is for family support (http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_compliance_pension.html). The Supreme Court upheld that IRAs are similarly shielded in 2005.(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24753-2005Apr4.html)

So another reason to top up those retirement accounts every year — not only do you diversify your taxation liability, you protect some of your assets against bankruptcy, lawsuits, etc.[/quote]

Good to know!

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[quote=edna_mode]Another interesting twist is the mention that the profiled person has been “socking away money for retirement”. If she was doing it in an ERISA-qualified plan (most pensions and 401(k) are), then that money is largely JUDGEMENT-PROOF. A quick google suggests the only way for another party to take away retirement accounts is for family support (http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_compliance_pension.html). The Supreme Court upheld that IRAs are similarly shielded in 2005.(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24753-2005Apr4.html)

So another reason to top up those retirement accounts every year — not only do you diversify your taxation liability, you protect some of your assets against bankruptcy, lawsuits, etc.[/quote]

Good to know!

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[quote=briansd1][quote=paddyoh]
And the All-American Jeff Bridges aided and abetted with Hyundai’s success. For shame.
[/quote]

That is so xenophobic.

Those are just commercials.. take it easy…

So can’t Rick Steve promote travel to Europe? He should switch to Yosemite and Florida? Otherwise, he’s a traitor?[/quote]

Let’s not stop with Rick Steve. How about all the positive reviews of Hyundai AND other foreign cars on newspapers and magazines… just a thought.

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[quote=briansd1][quote=paddyoh]
And the All-American Jeff Bridges aided and abetted with Hyundai’s success. For shame.
[/quote]

That is so xenophobic.

Those are just commercials.. take it easy…

So can’t Rick Steve promote travel to Europe? He should switch to Yosemite and Florida? Otherwise, he’s a traitor?[/quote]

Let’s not stop with Rick Steve. How about all the positive reviews of Hyundai AND other foreign cars on newspapers and magazines… just a thought.

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[quote=briansd1][quote=paddyoh]
And the All-American Jeff Bridges aided and abetted with Hyundai’s success. For shame.
[/quote]

That is so xenophobic.

Those are just commercials.. take it easy…

So can’t Rick Steve promote travel to Europe? He should switch to Yosemite and Florida? Otherwise, he’s a traitor?[/quote]

Let’s not stop with Rick Steve. How about all the positive reviews of Hyundai AND other foreign cars on newspapers and magazines… just a thought.

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[quote=briansd1][quote=paddyoh]
And the All-American Jeff Bridges aided and abetted with Hyundai’s success. For shame.
[/quote]

That is so xenophobic.

Those are just commercials.. take it easy…

So can’t Rick Steve promote travel to Europe? He should switch to Yosemite and Florida? Otherwise, he’s a traitor?[/quote]

Let’s not stop with Rick Steve. How about all the positive reviews of Hyundai AND other foreign cars on newspapers and magazines… just a thought.

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[quote=briansd1][quote=paddyoh]
And the All-American Jeff Bridges aided and abetted with Hyundai’s success. For shame.
[/quote]

That is so xenophobic.

Those are just commercials.. take it easy…

So can’t Rick Steve promote travel to Europe? He should switch to Yosemite and Florida? Otherwise, he’s a traitor?[/quote]

Let’s not stop with Rick Steve. How about all the positive reviews of Hyundai AND other foreign cars on newspapers and magazines… just a thought.

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[quote=ocrenter][quote=air_ogi]The right solution would be to start over, scrap the current system completely. Do what Taiwan did, research existing systems and implement pieces that work the best.

With all of this talk of socialism, the numbers are simple. Would you switch to socialist Canadian system if it meant Canada level healthcare and saving $4000 per member of you family every year?[/quote]

I think the most important take away from the Taiwan experience is that picking a single payer system does not equal a country is going down that socialist pathway. that’s just how the debate here in this country has morphed into.

in fact, if a government truly is pro-business, it’ll want to support that single payer system. As it would remove the burden of providing care from the employer and allow people the freedom to leave jobs and start new businesses.[/quote]

I really thought management at GM would’ve been begging for single-payer system or something like it.

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[quote=ocrenter][quote=air_ogi]The right solution would be to start over, scrap the current system completely. Do what Taiwan did, research existing systems and implement pieces that work the best.

With all of this talk of socialism, the numbers are simple. Would you switch to socialist Canadian system if it meant Canada level healthcare and saving $4000 per member of you family every year?[/quote]

I think the most important take away from the Taiwan experience is that picking a single payer system does not equal a country is going down that socialist pathway. that’s just how the debate here in this country has morphed into.

in fact, if a government truly is pro-business, it’ll want to support that single payer system. As it would remove the burden of providing care from the employer and allow people the freedom to leave jobs and start new businesses.[/quote]

I really thought management at GM would’ve been begging for single-payer system or something like it.

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[quote=ocrenter][quote=air_ogi]The right solution would be to start over, scrap the current system completely. Do what Taiwan did, research existing systems and implement pieces that work the best.

With all of this talk of socialism, the numbers are simple. Would you switch to socialist Canadian system if it meant Canada level healthcare and saving $4000 per member of you family every year?[/quote]

I think the most important take away from the Taiwan experience is that picking a single payer system does not equal a country is going down that socialist pathway. that’s just how the debate here in this country has morphed into.

in fact, if a government truly is pro-business, it’ll want to support that single payer system. As it would remove the burden of providing care from the employer and allow people the freedom to leave jobs and start new businesses.[/quote]

I really thought management at GM would’ve been begging for single-payer system or something like it.

[dbapig]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=air_ogi]The right solution would be to start over, scrap the current system completely. Do what Taiwan did, research existing systems and implement pieces that work the best.

With all of this talk of socialism, the numbers are simple. Would you switch to socialist Canadian system if it meant Canada level healthcare and saving $4000 per member of you family every year?[/quote]

I think the most important take away from the Taiwan experience is that picking a single payer system does not equal a country is going down that socialist pathway. that’s just how the debate here in this country has morphed into.

in fact, if a government truly is pro-business, it’ll want to support that single payer system. As it would remove the burden of providing care from the employer and allow people the freedom to leave jobs and start new businesses.[/quote]

I really thought management at GM would’ve been begging for single-payer system or something like it.

[dbapig]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=air_ogi]The right solution would be to start over, scrap the current system completely. Do what Taiwan did, research existing systems and implement pieces that work the best.

With all of this talk of socialism, the numbers are simple. Would you switch to socialist Canadian system if it meant Canada level healthcare and saving $4000 per member of you family every year?[/quote]

I think the most important take away from the Taiwan experience is that picking a single payer system does not equal a country is going down that socialist pathway. that’s just how the debate here in this country has morphed into.

in fact, if a government truly is pro-business, it’ll want to support that single payer system. As it would remove the burden of providing care from the employer and allow people the freedom to leave jobs and start new businesses.[/quote]

I really thought management at GM would’ve been begging for single-payer system or something like it.

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