OT: Health Care in Mexico vs. U.S. (related to “Father is visiting and hospitalized…”)

[Eugene]

[quote]: Mexico spends just 6% of its GDP on healthcare while the US spends over 16%.[/quote]

Mexico is significantly younger. Median age 26.3 years, 6.2% of population over 65. In the United States, median age is 36.7 years, 12.8% of population over 65.

BTW who’s your dentist? (You can answer via PM)

[briansd1]

US health care is great in terms of technology but it sucks in terms of “care” unless you have money or connections and a good relationship with a doctor.

But if you belong to those health insurance groups and don’t know anybody, good luck getting an appointment. Call the central appointment line and wait for a 2 weeks for an appointment. That doesn’t help if you’re sick and need to see the doctor right away. So you end up going to urgent care or the emergency room (very costly care).

Waiting 2 weeks for an appointment is fine if you have chronic conditions (such as high blood pressure or cholesterol) that need periodic monitoring, tests and prescription refills. Basically, you’re always sick and need constant monitoring — an ongoing stream of revenue to the system.

As far as dental is concerned… US dentists only care about about making money off of you.

Doctors/dentists operate with the help of consultants to squeeze the most money out of you.

They want to charge your for night guards.. to replace your crowns that are still fine.. make you come back and forth to make it “worth” more, etc…

A lot of it is a sales and up-sell job and not “care” in the sense of the Hippocratic oath.

My bro is a facial surgeon so I know how it works. Most of his work is elective surgery not covered or not fully covered by insurance. He’s got it down now on running his practice but the management consultant showed him the way.

Although I have health insurance, I never go to the doctor because I take care of myself well and am never sick. I refuse to feed the system.

I used to have dental insurance.. but no longer. It’s a joke. I get my cleanings once a year in Thailand, Malaysia, Costa Rica, or wherever it’s cheap, and where I happen to be. I just ask someone to give me a referral. Even with dental coverage in USA, your co-pay would be more than the full service overseas.

I get dental x-rays every other year. That’s good enough as I never have cavities.

The American health system is focused on money, not care (all a facade).

Sure if you need bypass, transplant, stents and the high tech stuff, the American system is the best.

But day to day care for healthy people who want to maintain good health is the worse. The system doesn’t want to see you because you’re not worth any money.

Information is plentiful but it’s up to you to educate yourself. People won’t tell you anything useful unless it’s to sell you something. By that time, it’s too late.

I’ve never been to the doctor in Mexico but I agree wholeheartedly with davelj. Can you post the name of your doctor or dentist (or that of the medical group) for those who may be interested?

[briansd1]

US health care is great in terms of technology but it sucks in terms of “care” unless you have money or connections and a good relationship with a doctor.

But if you belong to those health insurance groups and don’t know anybody, good luck getting an appointment. Call the central appointment line and wait for a 2 weeks for an appointment. That doesn’t help if you’re sick and need to see the doctor right away. So you end up going to urgent care or the emergency room (very costly care).

Waiting 2 weeks for an appointment is fine if you have chronic conditions (such as high blood pressure or cholesterol) that need periodic monitoring, tests and prescription refills. Basically, you’re always sick and need constant monitoring — an ongoing stream of revenue to the system.

As far as dental is concerned… US dentists only care about about making money off of you.

Doctors/dentists operate with the help of consultants to squeeze the most money out of you.

They want to charge your for night guards.. to replace your crowns that are still fine.. make you come back and forth to make it “worth” more, etc…

A lot of it is a sales and up-sell job and not “care” in the sense of the Hippocratic oath.

My bro is a facial surgeon so I know how it works. Most of his work is elective surgery not covered or not fully covered by insurance. He’s got it down now on running his practice but the management consultant showed him the way.

Although I have health insurance, I never go to the doctor because I take care of myself well and am never sick. I refuse to feed the system.

I used to have dental insurance.. but no longer. It’s a joke. I get my cleanings once a year in Thailand, Malaysia, Costa Rica, or wherever it’s cheap, and where I happen to be. I just ask someone to give me a referral. Even with dental coverage in USA, your co-pay would be more than the full service overseas.

I get dental x-rays every other year. That’s good enough as I never have cavities.

The American health system is focused on money, not care (all a facade).

Sure if you need bypass, transplant, stents and the high tech stuff, the American system is the best.

But day to day care for healthy people who want to maintain good health is the worse. The system doesn’t want to see you because you’re not worth any money.

Information is plentiful but it’s up to you to educate yourself. People won’t tell you anything useful unless it’s to sell you something. By that time, it’s too late.

I’ve never been to the doctor in Mexico but I agree wholeheartedly with davelj. Can you post the name of your doctor or dentist (or that of the medical group) for those who may be interested?

[briansd1]

US health care is great in terms of technology but it sucks in terms of “care” unless you have money or connections and a good relationship with a doctor.

But if you belong to those health insurance groups and don’t know anybody, good luck getting an appointment. Call the central appointment line and wait for a 2 weeks for an appointment. That doesn’t help if you’re sick and need to see the doctor right away. So you end up going to urgent care or the emergency room (very costly care).

Waiting 2 weeks for an appointment is fine if you have chronic conditions (such as high blood pressure or cholesterol) that need periodic monitoring, tests and prescription refills. Basically, you’re always sick and need constant monitoring — an ongoing stream of revenue to the system.

As far as dental is concerned… US dentists only care about about making money off of you.

Doctors/dentists operate with the help of consultants to squeeze the most money out of you.

They want to charge your for night guards.. to replace your crowns that are still fine.. make you come back and forth to make it “worth” more, etc…

A lot of it is a sales and up-sell job and not “care” in the sense of the Hippocratic oath.

My bro is a facial surgeon so I know how it works. Most of his work is elective surgery not covered or not fully covered by insurance. He’s got it down now on running his practice but the management consultant showed him the way.

Although I have health insurance, I never go to the doctor because I take care of myself well and am never sick. I refuse to feed the system.

I used to have dental insurance.. but no longer. It’s a joke. I get my cleanings once a year in Thailand, Malaysia, Costa Rica, or wherever it’s cheap, and where I happen to be. I just ask someone to give me a referral. Even with dental coverage in USA, your co-pay would be more than the full service overseas.

I get dental x-rays every other year. That’s good enough as I never have cavities.

The American health system is focused on money, not care (all a facade).

Sure if you need bypass, transplant, stents and the high tech stuff, the American system is the best.

But day to day care for healthy people who want to maintain good health is the worse. The system doesn’t want to see you because you’re not worth any money.

Information is plentiful but it’s up to you to educate yourself. People won’t tell you anything useful unless it’s to sell you something. By that time, it’s too late.

I’ve never been to the doctor in Mexico but I agree wholeheartedly with davelj. Can you post the name of your doctor or dentist (or that of the medical group) for those who may be interested?

[briansd1]

US health care is great in terms of technology but it sucks in terms of “care” unless you have money or connections and a good relationship with a doctor.

But if you belong to those health insurance groups and don’t know anybody, good luck getting an appointment. Call the central appointment line and wait for a 2 weeks for an appointment. That doesn’t help if you’re sick and need to see the doctor right away. So you end up going to urgent care or the emergency room (very costly care).

Waiting 2 weeks for an appointment is fine if you have chronic conditions (such as high blood pressure or cholesterol) that need periodic monitoring, tests and prescription refills. Basically, you’re always sick and need constant monitoring — an ongoing stream of revenue to the system.

As far as dental is concerned… US dentists only care about about making money off of you.

Doctors/dentists operate with the help of consultants to squeeze the most money out of you.

They want to charge your for night guards.. to replace your crowns that are still fine.. make you come back and forth to make it “worth” more, etc…

A lot of it is a sales and up-sell job and not “care” in the sense of the Hippocratic oath.

My bro is a facial surgeon so I know how it works. Most of his work is elective surgery not covered or not fully covered by insurance. He’s got it down now on running his practice but the management consultant showed him the way.

Although I have health insurance, I never go to the doctor because I take care of myself well and am never sick. I refuse to feed the system.

I used to have dental insurance.. but no longer. It’s a joke. I get my cleanings once a year in Thailand, Malaysia, Costa Rica, or wherever it’s cheap, and where I happen to be. I just ask someone to give me a referral. Even with dental coverage in USA, your co-pay would be more than the full service overseas.

I get dental x-rays every other year. That’s good enough as I never have cavities.

The American health system is focused on money, not care (all a facade).

Sure if you need bypass, transplant, stents and the high tech stuff, the American system is the best.

But day to day care for healthy people who want to maintain good health is the worse. The system doesn’t want to see you because you’re not worth any money.

Information is plentiful but it’s up to you to educate yourself. People won’t tell you anything useful unless it’s to sell you something. By that time, it’s too late.

I’ve never been to the doctor in Mexico but I agree wholeheartedly with davelj. Can you post the name of your doctor or dentist (or that of the medical group) for those who may be interested?

[briansd1]

US health care is great in terms of technology but it sucks in terms of “care” unless you have money or connections and a good relationship with a doctor.

But if you belong to those health insurance groups and don’t know anybody, good luck getting an appointment. Call the central appointment line and wait for a 2 weeks for an appointment. That doesn’t help if you’re sick and need to see the doctor right away. So you end up going to urgent care or the emergency room (very costly care).

Waiting 2 weeks for an appointment is fine if you have chronic conditions (such as high blood pressure or cholesterol) that need periodic monitoring, tests and prescription refills. Basically, you’re always sick and need constant monitoring — an ongoing stream of revenue to the system.

As far as dental is concerned… US dentists only care about about making money off of you.

Doctors/dentists operate with the help of consultants to squeeze the most money out of you.

They want to charge your for night guards.. to replace your crowns that are still fine.. make you come back and forth to make it “worth” more, etc…

A lot of it is a sales and up-sell job and not “care” in the sense of the Hippocratic oath.

My bro is a facial surgeon so I know how it works. Most of his work is elective surgery not covered or not fully covered by insurance. He’s got it down now on running his practice but the management consultant showed him the way.

Although I have health insurance, I never go to the doctor because I take care of myself well and am never sick. I refuse to feed the system.

I used to have dental insurance.. but no longer. It’s a joke. I get my cleanings once a year in Thailand, Malaysia, Costa Rica, or wherever it’s cheap, and where I happen to be. I just ask someone to give me a referral. Even with dental coverage in USA, your co-pay would be more than the full service overseas.

I get dental x-rays every other year. That’s good enough as I never have cavities.

The American health system is focused on money, not care (all a facade).

Sure if you need bypass, transplant, stents and the high tech stuff, the American system is the best.

But day to day care for healthy people who want to maintain good health is the worse. The system doesn’t want to see you because you’re not worth any money.

Information is plentiful but it’s up to you to educate yourself. People won’t tell you anything useful unless it’s to sell you something. By that time, it’s too late.

I’ve never been to the doctor in Mexico but I agree wholeheartedly with davelj. Can you post the name of your doctor or dentist (or that of the medical group) for those who may be interested?

[blahblahblah]

My dentist doesn’t have dental insurance.

Thanks for the tip about Mexico. I can never actually get to see a dermatologist for cancer screenings even though I have what is supposed to be good insurance ($190/month, $5K deductible). If I can get any appointment at all, I have to wait for 2 months and then I can only see the PA. I will look into going down to TJ, maybe I can get screened by a real dermatologist down there more easily. I also need a personal physician since I’m getting a little older and maybe TJ might be the place to find one…

[blahblahblah]

My dentist doesn’t have dental insurance.

Thanks for the tip about Mexico. I can never actually get to see a dermatologist for cancer screenings even though I have what is supposed to be good insurance ($190/month, $5K deductible). If I can get any appointment at all, I have to wait for 2 months and then I can only see the PA. I will look into going down to TJ, maybe I can get screened by a real dermatologist down there more easily. I also need a personal physician since I’m getting a little older and maybe TJ might be the place to find one…

[blahblahblah]

My dentist doesn’t have dental insurance.

Thanks for the tip about Mexico. I can never actually get to see a dermatologist for cancer screenings even though I have what is supposed to be good insurance ($190/month, $5K deductible). If I can get any appointment at all, I have to wait for 2 months and then I can only see the PA. I will look into going down to TJ, maybe I can get screened by a real dermatologist down there more easily. I also need a personal physician since I’m getting a little older and maybe TJ might be the place to find one…

[blahblahblah]

My dentist doesn’t have dental insurance.

Thanks for the tip about Mexico. I can never actually get to see a dermatologist for cancer screenings even though I have what is supposed to be good insurance ($190/month, $5K deductible). If I can get any appointment at all, I have to wait for 2 months and then I can only see the PA. I will look into going down to TJ, maybe I can get screened by a real dermatologist down there more easily. I also need a personal physician since I’m getting a little older and maybe TJ might be the place to find one…

[blahblahblah]

My dentist doesn’t have dental insurance.

Thanks for the tip about Mexico. I can never actually get to see a dermatologist for cancer screenings even though I have what is supposed to be good insurance ($190/month, $5K deductible). If I can get any appointment at all, I have to wait for 2 months and then I can only see the PA. I will look into going down to TJ, maybe I can get screened by a real dermatologist down there more easily. I also need a personal physician since I’m getting a little older and maybe TJ might be the place to find one…

[davelj]

[quote=briansd1]
I’ve never been to the doctor in Mexico but I agree wholeheartedly with davelj. Can you post the name of your doctor or dentist (or that of the medical group) for those who may be interested?[/quote]

Happy to.

This guy is my dentist, but there are MANY to choose from, many have websites, and I’ve never heard a complaint about any dentists in TJ:

http://www.dentistintijuanamexico.com/index.htm

My doctor is at Hospital Angeles (see the link in the original post) and, as with dentists, you have a lot of choices.

[davelj]

[quote=briansd1]
I’ve never been to the doctor in Mexico but I agree wholeheartedly with davelj. Can you post the name of your doctor or dentist (or that of the medical group) for those who may be interested?[/quote]

Happy to.

This guy is my dentist, but there are MANY to choose from, many have websites, and I’ve never heard a complaint about any dentists in TJ:

http://www.dentistintijuanamexico.com/index.htm

My doctor is at Hospital Angeles (see the link in the original post) and, as with dentists, you have a lot of choices.

[davelj]

[quote=briansd1]
I’ve never been to the doctor in Mexico but I agree wholeheartedly with davelj. Can you post the name of your doctor or dentist (or that of the medical group) for those who may be interested?[/quote]

Happy to.

This guy is my dentist, but there are MANY to choose from, many have websites, and I’ve never heard a complaint about any dentists in TJ:

http://www.dentistintijuanamexico.com/index.htm

My doctor is at Hospital Angeles (see the link in the original post) and, as with dentists, you have a lot of choices.

[davelj]

[quote=briansd1]
I’ve never been to the doctor in Mexico but I agree wholeheartedly with davelj. Can you post the name of your doctor or dentist (or that of the medical group) for those who may be interested?[/quote]

Happy to.

This guy is my dentist, but there are MANY to choose from, many have websites, and I’ve never heard a complaint about any dentists in TJ:

http://www.dentistintijuanamexico.com/index.htm

My doctor is at Hospital Angeles (see the link in the original post) and, as with dentists, you have a lot of choices.

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