OT: Health Care in Mexico vs. U.S. (related to “Father is visiting and hospitalized…”)

[davelj]

[quote=meadandale]If he’d have been brought to a hospital in Mexico in an emergency, the hospital would have demanded proof of insurance or his ability to pay before they even began treating him since he’s not a citizen. This happens all the time to US visitors who have been in serious automobile accidents in Mexico, often with tragic results.[/quote]

Clearly, we could learn something from Mexico in this regard.

[davelj]

[quote=ocrenter]for routine care, yes, go to Mexico.

this guy’s dad was having a stroke.

Time = Brain cells![/quote]

Precisely why I included the caveat, “I’m NOT suggesting that this would have been the optimal solution (I don’t know the circumstances) – just one that most folks don’t consider.”

[davelj]

[quote=ocrenter]for routine care, yes, go to Mexico.

this guy’s dad was having a stroke.

Time = Brain cells![/quote]

Precisely why I included the caveat, “I’m NOT suggesting that this would have been the optimal solution (I don’t know the circumstances) – just one that most folks don’t consider.”

[davelj]

[quote=ocrenter]for routine care, yes, go to Mexico.

this guy’s dad was having a stroke.

Time = Brain cells![/quote]

Precisely why I included the caveat, “I’m NOT suggesting that this would have been the optimal solution (I don’t know the circumstances) – just one that most folks don’t consider.”

[davelj]

[quote=ocrenter]for routine care, yes, go to Mexico.

this guy’s dad was having a stroke.

Time = Brain cells![/quote]

Precisely why I included the caveat, “I’m NOT suggesting that this would have been the optimal solution (I don’t know the circumstances) – just one that most folks don’t consider.”

[davelj]

[quote=ocrenter]for routine care, yes, go to Mexico.

this guy’s dad was having a stroke.

Time = Brain cells![/quote]

Precisely why I included the caveat, “I’m NOT suggesting that this would have been the optimal solution (I don’t know the circumstances) – just one that most folks don’t consider.”

[NotCranky]

I didn’t want to hijack the other thread but Mexico was on my mind too. I have more faith in effieciency and adequacy of the corner farmacy in Mexico then in our choices for routine care. You just go tell the farmacist what is going on, or what you have discerned that you need and they give it to you for a very reasonable price. No days off of work or dealing with the hassles of an appointment just to have someone spend 3.5 seconds to write prescrition.I wish that could happen here.

Dental work paid cash is not that bad with fairly good teeth,even here. I went to private dentist even when I had group type insurance because the choices they gave me had peviously cost me a tooth.

I think Mexico could be a viable option to insurance if it is hard/expensive to get and keep here.Especially if you are healthy and in the case that you also don’t care to live after you are too messed up to get down there anyway.

Options here are really bad/expensive for people with pre-existing conditions ,even benign ones, who want to work outside of the establishment’s system… Move away from the system and pay a gazillion dollars and risked getting dropped even for benign and old but “pre-existing” conditions.

About 10 years ago I woke up with my appendix giving out. Some friends took me to Mexico and I was admitted,knocked out,had the thing removed. I was given more patient, after care than my wife had when she had our children… including one cesarean,which is similar to my old fashioned style appendix surgery but bigger. It cost me $1800. Bedside manner, from the Dr. on down, puts what I have seen here in many instances to shame. I was 37 and that $1800 was less than what I would have paid for one year’s premiums on a policy, with huge deductibles, because I have a buldging disk from a fall. I have never,and will never ask for any medical follow up post-diagnosis on that disk. I have hardly ever let my insurance lapse and think I probably had blue shield at the time of the appendix issue. I don’t know how much an appendix removal costs here but my deductible was 5 times more than the surgery in Mexico cost me and it would have probably have been exceeded.Not to mention that the insurance company likely would have tried to find a reason not to pay any of it. The Blue shield policy was sold to me at a reasonable price and doubled in six months with out use on my part.

[NotCranky]

I didn’t want to hijack the other thread but Mexico was on my mind too. I have more faith in effieciency and adequacy of the corner farmacy in Mexico then in our choices for routine care. You just go tell the farmacist what is going on, or what you have discerned that you need and they give it to you for a very reasonable price. No days off of work or dealing with the hassles of an appointment just to have someone spend 3.5 seconds to write prescrition.I wish that could happen here.

Dental work paid cash is not that bad with fairly good teeth,even here. I went to private dentist even when I had group type insurance because the choices they gave me had peviously cost me a tooth.

I think Mexico could be a viable option to insurance if it is hard/expensive to get and keep here.Especially if you are healthy and in the case that you also don’t care to live after you are too messed up to get down there anyway.

Options here are really bad/expensive for people with pre-existing conditions ,even benign ones, who want to work outside of the establishment’s system… Move away from the system and pay a gazillion dollars and risked getting dropped even for benign and old but “pre-existing” conditions.

About 10 years ago I woke up with my appendix giving out. Some friends took me to Mexico and I was admitted,knocked out,had the thing removed. I was given more patient, after care than my wife had when she had our children… including one cesarean,which is similar to my old fashioned style appendix surgery but bigger. It cost me $1800. Bedside manner, from the Dr. on down, puts what I have seen here in many instances to shame. I was 37 and that $1800 was less than what I would have paid for one year’s premiums on a policy, with huge deductibles, because I have a buldging disk from a fall. I have never,and will never ask for any medical follow up post-diagnosis on that disk. I have hardly ever let my insurance lapse and think I probably had blue shield at the time of the appendix issue. I don’t know how much an appendix removal costs here but my deductible was 5 times more than the surgery in Mexico cost me and it would have probably have been exceeded.Not to mention that the insurance company likely would have tried to find a reason not to pay any of it. The Blue shield policy was sold to me at a reasonable price and doubled in six months with out use on my part.

[NotCranky]

I didn’t want to hijack the other thread but Mexico was on my mind too. I have more faith in effieciency and adequacy of the corner farmacy in Mexico then in our choices for routine care. You just go tell the farmacist what is going on, or what you have discerned that you need and they give it to you for a very reasonable price. No days off of work or dealing with the hassles of an appointment just to have someone spend 3.5 seconds to write prescrition.I wish that could happen here.

Dental work paid cash is not that bad with fairly good teeth,even here. I went to private dentist even when I had group type insurance because the choices they gave me had peviously cost me a tooth.

I think Mexico could be a viable option to insurance if it is hard/expensive to get and keep here.Especially if you are healthy and in the case that you also don’t care to live after you are too messed up to get down there anyway.

Options here are really bad/expensive for people with pre-existing conditions ,even benign ones, who want to work outside of the establishment’s system… Move away from the system and pay a gazillion dollars and risked getting dropped even for benign and old but “pre-existing” conditions.

About 10 years ago I woke up with my appendix giving out. Some friends took me to Mexico and I was admitted,knocked out,had the thing removed. I was given more patient, after care than my wife had when she had our children… including one cesarean,which is similar to my old fashioned style appendix surgery but bigger. It cost me $1800. Bedside manner, from the Dr. on down, puts what I have seen here in many instances to shame. I was 37 and that $1800 was less than what I would have paid for one year’s premiums on a policy, with huge deductibles, because I have a buldging disk from a fall. I have never,and will never ask for any medical follow up post-diagnosis on that disk. I have hardly ever let my insurance lapse and think I probably had blue shield at the time of the appendix issue. I don’t know how much an appendix removal costs here but my deductible was 5 times more than the surgery in Mexico cost me and it would have probably have been exceeded.Not to mention that the insurance company likely would have tried to find a reason not to pay any of it. The Blue shield policy was sold to me at a reasonable price and doubled in six months with out use on my part.

[NotCranky]

I didn’t want to hijack the other thread but Mexico was on my mind too. I have more faith in effieciency and adequacy of the corner farmacy in Mexico then in our choices for routine care. You just go tell the farmacist what is going on, or what you have discerned that you need and they give it to you for a very reasonable price. No days off of work or dealing with the hassles of an appointment just to have someone spend 3.5 seconds to write prescrition.I wish that could happen here.

Dental work paid cash is not that bad with fairly good teeth,even here. I went to private dentist even when I had group type insurance because the choices they gave me had peviously cost me a tooth.

I think Mexico could be a viable option to insurance if it is hard/expensive to get and keep here.Especially if you are healthy and in the case that you also don’t care to live after you are too messed up to get down there anyway.

Options here are really bad/expensive for people with pre-existing conditions ,even benign ones, who want to work outside of the establishment’s system… Move away from the system and pay a gazillion dollars and risked getting dropped even for benign and old but “pre-existing” conditions.

About 10 years ago I woke up with my appendix giving out. Some friends took me to Mexico and I was admitted,knocked out,had the thing removed. I was given more patient, after care than my wife had when she had our children… including one cesarean,which is similar to my old fashioned style appendix surgery but bigger. It cost me $1800. Bedside manner, from the Dr. on down, puts what I have seen here in many instances to shame. I was 37 and that $1800 was less than what I would have paid for one year’s premiums on a policy, with huge deductibles, because I have a buldging disk from a fall. I have never,and will never ask for any medical follow up post-diagnosis on that disk. I have hardly ever let my insurance lapse and think I probably had blue shield at the time of the appendix issue. I don’t know how much an appendix removal costs here but my deductible was 5 times more than the surgery in Mexico cost me and it would have probably have been exceeded.Not to mention that the insurance company likely would have tried to find a reason not to pay any of it. The Blue shield policy was sold to me at a reasonable price and doubled in six months with out use on my part.

[NotCranky]

I didn’t want to hijack the other thread but Mexico was on my mind too. I have more faith in effieciency and adequacy of the corner farmacy in Mexico then in our choices for routine care. You just go tell the farmacist what is going on, or what you have discerned that you need and they give it to you for a very reasonable price. No days off of work or dealing with the hassles of an appointment just to have someone spend 3.5 seconds to write prescrition.I wish that could happen here.

Dental work paid cash is not that bad with fairly good teeth,even here. I went to private dentist even when I had group type insurance because the choices they gave me had peviously cost me a tooth.

I think Mexico could be a viable option to insurance if it is hard/expensive to get and keep here.Especially if you are healthy and in the case that you also don’t care to live after you are too messed up to get down there anyway.

Options here are really bad/expensive for people with pre-existing conditions ,even benign ones, who want to work outside of the establishment’s system… Move away from the system and pay a gazillion dollars and risked getting dropped even for benign and old but “pre-existing” conditions.

About 10 years ago I woke up with my appendix giving out. Some friends took me to Mexico and I was admitted,knocked out,had the thing removed. I was given more patient, after care than my wife had when she had our children… including one cesarean,which is similar to my old fashioned style appendix surgery but bigger. It cost me $1800. Bedside manner, from the Dr. on down, puts what I have seen here in many instances to shame. I was 37 and that $1800 was less than what I would have paid for one year’s premiums on a policy, with huge deductibles, because I have a buldging disk from a fall. I have never,and will never ask for any medical follow up post-diagnosis on that disk. I have hardly ever let my insurance lapse and think I probably had blue shield at the time of the appendix issue. I don’t know how much an appendix removal costs here but my deductible was 5 times more than the surgery in Mexico cost me and it would have probably have been exceeded.Not to mention that the insurance company likely would have tried to find a reason not to pay any of it. The Blue shield policy was sold to me at a reasonable price and doubled in six months with out use on my part.

[Eugene]

[quote]: Mexico spends just 6% of its GDP on healthcare while the US spends over 16%.[/quote]

Mexico is significantly younger. Median age 26.3 years, 6.2% of population over 65. In the United States, median age is 36.7 years, 12.8% of population over 65.

BTW who’s your dentist? (You can answer via PM)

[Eugene]

[quote]: Mexico spends just 6% of its GDP on healthcare while the US spends over 16%.[/quote]

Mexico is significantly younger. Median age 26.3 years, 6.2% of population over 65. In the United States, median age is 36.7 years, 12.8% of population over 65.

BTW who’s your dentist? (You can answer via PM)

[Eugene]

[quote]: Mexico spends just 6% of its GDP on healthcare while the US spends over 16%.[/quote]

Mexico is significantly younger. Median age 26.3 years, 6.2% of population over 65. In the United States, median age is 36.7 years, 12.8% of population over 65.

BTW who’s your dentist? (You can answer via PM)

[Eugene]

[quote]: Mexico spends just 6% of its GDP on healthcare while the US spends over 16%.[/quote]

Mexico is significantly younger. Median age 26.3 years, 6.2% of population over 65. In the United States, median age is 36.7 years, 12.8% of population over 65.

BTW who’s your dentist? (You can answer via PM)

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