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  • September 29, 2008 at 7:46 PM in reply to: Money Supply #278141
    cr
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    I’ve read Mish’s argument for deflation, and I don’t fully agree.

    For one, I don’t think we have seen the full extent of CPI inflation as result of the Fed’s slashing of rates, weak dollar, commodity and raw material prices increases etc.

    I also know that retailers are only starting to pass on price increases, and I think later this year, early next we will see those effects.

    Mish’s argument is people will spend less and drive prices down, but that only goes so far, because you can’t exactly put off buying food.

    The most important factor in getting the US out this recession will be job creation.

    The only area I see providing that will be the retiring of baby boomers over the next decade, but that of course has it’s own implications.

    Delfation will only come once our Government has thrown every good dollar they can print at the problem and still not clean up the mess, and is forced to raise rates.

    Though all of those could suddenly turn for the better and we’d still be a society based on debt, and I question how long that can last.

    September 29, 2008 at 7:46 PM in reply to: Money Supply #278178
    cr
    Participant

    I’ve read Mish’s argument for deflation, and I don’t fully agree.

    For one, I don’t think we have seen the full extent of CPI inflation as result of the Fed’s slashing of rates, weak dollar, commodity and raw material prices increases etc.

    I also know that retailers are only starting to pass on price increases, and I think later this year, early next we will see those effects.

    Mish’s argument is people will spend less and drive prices down, but that only goes so far, because you can’t exactly put off buying food.

    The most important factor in getting the US out this recession will be job creation.

    The only area I see providing that will be the retiring of baby boomers over the next decade, but that of course has it’s own implications.

    Delfation will only come once our Government has thrown every good dollar they can print at the problem and still not clean up the mess, and is forced to raise rates.

    Though all of those could suddenly turn for the better and we’d still be a society based on debt, and I question how long that can last.

    September 29, 2008 at 7:46 PM in reply to: Money Supply #278190
    cr
    Participant

    I’ve read Mish’s argument for deflation, and I don’t fully agree.

    For one, I don’t think we have seen the full extent of CPI inflation as result of the Fed’s slashing of rates, weak dollar, commodity and raw material prices increases etc.

    I also know that retailers are only starting to pass on price increases, and I think later this year, early next we will see those effects.

    Mish’s argument is people will spend less and drive prices down, but that only goes so far, because you can’t exactly put off buying food.

    The most important factor in getting the US out this recession will be job creation.

    The only area I see providing that will be the retiring of baby boomers over the next decade, but that of course has it’s own implications.

    Delfation will only come once our Government has thrown every good dollar they can print at the problem and still not clean up the mess, and is forced to raise rates.

    Though all of those could suddenly turn for the better and we’d still be a society based on debt, and I question how long that can last.

    September 29, 2008 at 7:36 PM in reply to: Off Topic Clip of Peloski’s speech that cratered deal. She should resign. #277859
    cr
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    Haven’t you guys figured it out yet?

    Democrat and Republican means anymore nothing except if I’m on one side and you’re on the other my sole job is to discredit your side.

    The finger pointing I read on here is disappointingly similar to what I see on CSPAN. It’s pointless.

    Be glad this didn’t in it’s current form regardless of why, and when the next bills comes around we should continue to speak our minds on that, because it likely won’t be any better until the Government seeks advise outside it’s own world of “experts”, the same ones who got us into this mess.

    September 29, 2008 at 7:36 PM in reply to: Off Topic Clip of Peloski’s speech that cratered deal. She should resign. #278122
    cr
    Participant

    Haven’t you guys figured it out yet?

    Democrat and Republican means anymore nothing except if I’m on one side and you’re on the other my sole job is to discredit your side.

    The finger pointing I read on here is disappointingly similar to what I see on CSPAN. It’s pointless.

    Be glad this didn’t in it’s current form regardless of why, and when the next bills comes around we should continue to speak our minds on that, because it likely won’t be any better until the Government seeks advise outside it’s own world of “experts”, the same ones who got us into this mess.

    September 29, 2008 at 7:36 PM in reply to: Off Topic Clip of Peloski’s speech that cratered deal. She should resign. #278136
    cr
    Participant

    Haven’t you guys figured it out yet?

    Democrat and Republican means anymore nothing except if I’m on one side and you’re on the other my sole job is to discredit your side.

    The finger pointing I read on here is disappointingly similar to what I see on CSPAN. It’s pointless.

    Be glad this didn’t in it’s current form regardless of why, and when the next bills comes around we should continue to speak our minds on that, because it likely won’t be any better until the Government seeks advise outside it’s own world of “experts”, the same ones who got us into this mess.

    September 29, 2008 at 7:36 PM in reply to: Off Topic Clip of Peloski’s speech that cratered deal. She should resign. #278173
    cr
    Participant

    Haven’t you guys figured it out yet?

    Democrat and Republican means anymore nothing except if I’m on one side and you’re on the other my sole job is to discredit your side.

    The finger pointing I read on here is disappointingly similar to what I see on CSPAN. It’s pointless.

    Be glad this didn’t in it’s current form regardless of why, and when the next bills comes around we should continue to speak our minds on that, because it likely won’t be any better until the Government seeks advise outside it’s own world of “experts”, the same ones who got us into this mess.

    September 29, 2008 at 7:36 PM in reply to: Off Topic Clip of Peloski’s speech that cratered deal. She should resign. #278185
    cr
    Participant

    Haven’t you guys figured it out yet?

    Democrat and Republican means anymore nothing except if I’m on one side and you’re on the other my sole job is to discredit your side.

    The finger pointing I read on here is disappointingly similar to what I see on CSPAN. It’s pointless.

    Be glad this didn’t in it’s current form regardless of why, and when the next bills comes around we should continue to speak our minds on that, because it likely won’t be any better until the Government seeks advise outside it’s own world of “experts”, the same ones who got us into this mess.

    September 29, 2008 at 6:34 PM in reply to: How the house members voted today on the bailout bill….. #277780
    cr
    Participant

    I posted this on another topic, but it’s California only. If you see your rep here start emailing:

    Republicans voting yes:
    Wally Herger (Chico)
    Dan Lungren (Gold River)
    George Radanovich (Mariposa)
    Howard “Buck” McKeon (Santa Clarita)
    David Dreier (San Dimas)
    Jerry Lewis (Redlands)
    Gary Miller (Diamond Bar)
    Ken Calvert (Corona)
    Mary Bono Mack (Palm Springs)
    John Campbell (Irvine)

    Republicans voting no:
    John Doolittle (Roseville)
    David Nunes (Tulare)
    Kevin McCarthy (Bakersfield)
    Elton Gallegly (Simi Valley)
    Ed Royce (Fullerton)
    Dana Rohrabacher (Huntington Beach)
    Darrell Issa (Vista)
    Brian Bilbray (Carlsbad)
    Duncan Hunter (Alpine)

    Democrats voting yes:
    Doris Matsui (Sacramento)
    George Miller (Martinez)
    Nancy Pelosi (San Francisco)
    Ellen Tauscher (Alamo)
    Jerry McNerney (Pleasanton)
    Jackie Speier (Hillsborough)
    Anna Eshoo (Menlo Park)
    Mike Honda (San Jose)
    Zoe Lofgren (San Jose)
    Sam Farr (Carmel)
    Dennis Cardoza (Atwater)
    Jim Costa (Fresno)
    Lois Capps (Santa Barbara)
    Howard Berman (Valley Village)
    Henry Waxman (Beverly Hills)
    Maxine Waters (Los Angeles)
    Jane Harman (Venice)
    Laura Richardson (Long Beach)
    Susan Davis (San Diego)

    Democrats voting no:
    Mike Thompson (St. Helena)
    Lynn Woolsey (Petaluma)
    Barbara Lee (Oakland)
    Pete Stark (Fremont)
    Brad Sherman (Sherman Oaks)
    Adam Schiff (Burbank)
    Xavier Becerra (Los Angeles)
    Hilda Solis (El Monte)
    Diane Watson (Los Angeles)
    Lucille Roybal-Allard (East Los Angeles)
    Grace Napolitano (Norwalk)
    Linda Sanchez (Lakewood)
    Joe Baca (Rialto)
    Loretta Sanchez (Garden Grove)
    Bob Filner (Chula Vista)

    September 29, 2008 at 6:34 PM in reply to: How the house members voted today on the bailout bill….. #278042
    cr
    Participant

    I posted this on another topic, but it’s California only. If you see your rep here start emailing:

    Republicans voting yes:
    Wally Herger (Chico)
    Dan Lungren (Gold River)
    George Radanovich (Mariposa)
    Howard “Buck” McKeon (Santa Clarita)
    David Dreier (San Dimas)
    Jerry Lewis (Redlands)
    Gary Miller (Diamond Bar)
    Ken Calvert (Corona)
    Mary Bono Mack (Palm Springs)
    John Campbell (Irvine)

    Republicans voting no:
    John Doolittle (Roseville)
    David Nunes (Tulare)
    Kevin McCarthy (Bakersfield)
    Elton Gallegly (Simi Valley)
    Ed Royce (Fullerton)
    Dana Rohrabacher (Huntington Beach)
    Darrell Issa (Vista)
    Brian Bilbray (Carlsbad)
    Duncan Hunter (Alpine)

    Democrats voting yes:
    Doris Matsui (Sacramento)
    George Miller (Martinez)
    Nancy Pelosi (San Francisco)
    Ellen Tauscher (Alamo)
    Jerry McNerney (Pleasanton)
    Jackie Speier (Hillsborough)
    Anna Eshoo (Menlo Park)
    Mike Honda (San Jose)
    Zoe Lofgren (San Jose)
    Sam Farr (Carmel)
    Dennis Cardoza (Atwater)
    Jim Costa (Fresno)
    Lois Capps (Santa Barbara)
    Howard Berman (Valley Village)
    Henry Waxman (Beverly Hills)
    Maxine Waters (Los Angeles)
    Jane Harman (Venice)
    Laura Richardson (Long Beach)
    Susan Davis (San Diego)

    Democrats voting no:
    Mike Thompson (St. Helena)
    Lynn Woolsey (Petaluma)
    Barbara Lee (Oakland)
    Pete Stark (Fremont)
    Brad Sherman (Sherman Oaks)
    Adam Schiff (Burbank)
    Xavier Becerra (Los Angeles)
    Hilda Solis (El Monte)
    Diane Watson (Los Angeles)
    Lucille Roybal-Allard (East Los Angeles)
    Grace Napolitano (Norwalk)
    Linda Sanchez (Lakewood)
    Joe Baca (Rialto)
    Loretta Sanchez (Garden Grove)
    Bob Filner (Chula Vista)

    September 29, 2008 at 6:34 PM in reply to: How the house members voted today on the bailout bill….. #278056
    cr
    Participant

    I posted this on another topic, but it’s California only. If you see your rep here start emailing:

    Republicans voting yes:
    Wally Herger (Chico)
    Dan Lungren (Gold River)
    George Radanovich (Mariposa)
    Howard “Buck” McKeon (Santa Clarita)
    David Dreier (San Dimas)
    Jerry Lewis (Redlands)
    Gary Miller (Diamond Bar)
    Ken Calvert (Corona)
    Mary Bono Mack (Palm Springs)
    John Campbell (Irvine)

    Republicans voting no:
    John Doolittle (Roseville)
    David Nunes (Tulare)
    Kevin McCarthy (Bakersfield)
    Elton Gallegly (Simi Valley)
    Ed Royce (Fullerton)
    Dana Rohrabacher (Huntington Beach)
    Darrell Issa (Vista)
    Brian Bilbray (Carlsbad)
    Duncan Hunter (Alpine)

    Democrats voting yes:
    Doris Matsui (Sacramento)
    George Miller (Martinez)
    Nancy Pelosi (San Francisco)
    Ellen Tauscher (Alamo)
    Jerry McNerney (Pleasanton)
    Jackie Speier (Hillsborough)
    Anna Eshoo (Menlo Park)
    Mike Honda (San Jose)
    Zoe Lofgren (San Jose)
    Sam Farr (Carmel)
    Dennis Cardoza (Atwater)
    Jim Costa (Fresno)
    Lois Capps (Santa Barbara)
    Howard Berman (Valley Village)
    Henry Waxman (Beverly Hills)
    Maxine Waters (Los Angeles)
    Jane Harman (Venice)
    Laura Richardson (Long Beach)
    Susan Davis (San Diego)

    Democrats voting no:
    Mike Thompson (St. Helena)
    Lynn Woolsey (Petaluma)
    Barbara Lee (Oakland)
    Pete Stark (Fremont)
    Brad Sherman (Sherman Oaks)
    Adam Schiff (Burbank)
    Xavier Becerra (Los Angeles)
    Hilda Solis (El Monte)
    Diane Watson (Los Angeles)
    Lucille Roybal-Allard (East Los Angeles)
    Grace Napolitano (Norwalk)
    Linda Sanchez (Lakewood)
    Joe Baca (Rialto)
    Loretta Sanchez (Garden Grove)
    Bob Filner (Chula Vista)

    September 29, 2008 at 6:34 PM in reply to: How the house members voted today on the bailout bill….. #278093
    cr
    Participant

    I posted this on another topic, but it’s California only. If you see your rep here start emailing:

    Republicans voting yes:
    Wally Herger (Chico)
    Dan Lungren (Gold River)
    George Radanovich (Mariposa)
    Howard “Buck” McKeon (Santa Clarita)
    David Dreier (San Dimas)
    Jerry Lewis (Redlands)
    Gary Miller (Diamond Bar)
    Ken Calvert (Corona)
    Mary Bono Mack (Palm Springs)
    John Campbell (Irvine)

    Republicans voting no:
    John Doolittle (Roseville)
    David Nunes (Tulare)
    Kevin McCarthy (Bakersfield)
    Elton Gallegly (Simi Valley)
    Ed Royce (Fullerton)
    Dana Rohrabacher (Huntington Beach)
    Darrell Issa (Vista)
    Brian Bilbray (Carlsbad)
    Duncan Hunter (Alpine)

    Democrats voting yes:
    Doris Matsui (Sacramento)
    George Miller (Martinez)
    Nancy Pelosi (San Francisco)
    Ellen Tauscher (Alamo)
    Jerry McNerney (Pleasanton)
    Jackie Speier (Hillsborough)
    Anna Eshoo (Menlo Park)
    Mike Honda (San Jose)
    Zoe Lofgren (San Jose)
    Sam Farr (Carmel)
    Dennis Cardoza (Atwater)
    Jim Costa (Fresno)
    Lois Capps (Santa Barbara)
    Howard Berman (Valley Village)
    Henry Waxman (Beverly Hills)
    Maxine Waters (Los Angeles)
    Jane Harman (Venice)
    Laura Richardson (Long Beach)
    Susan Davis (San Diego)

    Democrats voting no:
    Mike Thompson (St. Helena)
    Lynn Woolsey (Petaluma)
    Barbara Lee (Oakland)
    Pete Stark (Fremont)
    Brad Sherman (Sherman Oaks)
    Adam Schiff (Burbank)
    Xavier Becerra (Los Angeles)
    Hilda Solis (El Monte)
    Diane Watson (Los Angeles)
    Lucille Roybal-Allard (East Los Angeles)
    Grace Napolitano (Norwalk)
    Linda Sanchez (Lakewood)
    Joe Baca (Rialto)
    Loretta Sanchez (Garden Grove)
    Bob Filner (Chula Vista)

    September 29, 2008 at 6:34 PM in reply to: How the house members voted today on the bailout bill….. #278105
    cr
    Participant

    I posted this on another topic, but it’s California only. If you see your rep here start emailing:

    Republicans voting yes:
    Wally Herger (Chico)
    Dan Lungren (Gold River)
    George Radanovich (Mariposa)
    Howard “Buck” McKeon (Santa Clarita)
    David Dreier (San Dimas)
    Jerry Lewis (Redlands)
    Gary Miller (Diamond Bar)
    Ken Calvert (Corona)
    Mary Bono Mack (Palm Springs)
    John Campbell (Irvine)

    Republicans voting no:
    John Doolittle (Roseville)
    David Nunes (Tulare)
    Kevin McCarthy (Bakersfield)
    Elton Gallegly (Simi Valley)
    Ed Royce (Fullerton)
    Dana Rohrabacher (Huntington Beach)
    Darrell Issa (Vista)
    Brian Bilbray (Carlsbad)
    Duncan Hunter (Alpine)

    Democrats voting yes:
    Doris Matsui (Sacramento)
    George Miller (Martinez)
    Nancy Pelosi (San Francisco)
    Ellen Tauscher (Alamo)
    Jerry McNerney (Pleasanton)
    Jackie Speier (Hillsborough)
    Anna Eshoo (Menlo Park)
    Mike Honda (San Jose)
    Zoe Lofgren (San Jose)
    Sam Farr (Carmel)
    Dennis Cardoza (Atwater)
    Jim Costa (Fresno)
    Lois Capps (Santa Barbara)
    Howard Berman (Valley Village)
    Henry Waxman (Beverly Hills)
    Maxine Waters (Los Angeles)
    Jane Harman (Venice)
    Laura Richardson (Long Beach)
    Susan Davis (San Diego)

    Democrats voting no:
    Mike Thompson (St. Helena)
    Lynn Woolsey (Petaluma)
    Barbara Lee (Oakland)
    Pete Stark (Fremont)
    Brad Sherman (Sherman Oaks)
    Adam Schiff (Burbank)
    Xavier Becerra (Los Angeles)
    Hilda Solis (El Monte)
    Diane Watson (Los Angeles)
    Lucille Roybal-Allard (East Los Angeles)
    Grace Napolitano (Norwalk)
    Linda Sanchez (Lakewood)
    Joe Baca (Rialto)
    Loretta Sanchez (Garden Grove)
    Bob Filner (Chula Vista)

    September 29, 2008 at 5:20 PM in reply to: Massive financial bailout fails in the House #277958
    cr
    Participant

    Here’s an easier to read vote tally of California Reps:

    Republicans voting yes:
    Wally Herger (Chico)
    Dan Lungren (Gold River)
    George Radanovich (Mariposa)
    Howard “Buck” McKeon (Santa Clarita)
    David Dreier (San Dimas)
    Jerry Lewis (Redlands)
    Gary Miller (Diamond Bar)
    Ken Calvert (Corona)
    Mary Bono Mack (Palm Springs)
    John Campbell (Irvine)

    Republicans voting no:
    John Doolittle (Roseville)
    David Nunes (Tulare)
    Kevin McCarthy (Bakersfield)
    Elton Gallegly (Simi Valley)
    Ed Royce (Fullerton)
    Dana Rohrabacher (Huntington Beach)
    Darrell Issa (Vista)
    Brian Bilbray (Carlsbad)
    Duncan Hunter (Alpine)

    Democrats voting yes:
    Doris Matsui (Sacramento)
    George Miller (Martinez)
    Nancy Pelosi (San Francisco)
    Ellen Tauscher (Alamo)
    Jerry McNerney (Pleasanton)
    Jackie Speier (Hillsborough)
    Anna Eshoo (Menlo Park)
    Mike Honda (San Jose)
    Zoe Lofgren (San Jose)
    Sam Farr (Carmel)
    Dennis Cardoza (Atwater)
    Jim Costa (Fresno)
    Lois Capps (Santa Barbara)
    Howard Berman (Valley Village)
    Henry Waxman (Beverly Hills)
    Maxine Waters (Los Angeles)
    Jane Harman (Venice)
    Laura Richardson (Long Beach)
    Susan Davis (San Diego)

    Democrats voting no:
    Mike Thompson (St. Helena)
    Lynn Woolsey (Petaluma)
    Barbara Lee (Oakland)
    Pete Stark (Fremont)
    Brad Sherman (Sherman Oaks)
    Adam Schiff (Burbank)
    Xavier Becerra (Los Angeles)
    Hilda Solis (El Monte)
    Diane Watson (Los Angeles)
    Lucille Roybal-Allard (East Los Angeles)
    Grace Napolitano (Norwalk)
    Linda Sanchez (Lakewood)
    Joe Baca (Rialto)
    Loretta Sanchez (Garden Grove)
    Bob Filner (Chula Vista)

    September 29, 2008 at 5:20 PM in reply to: Massive financial bailout fails in the House #277971
    cr
    Participant

    Here’s an easier to read vote tally of California Reps:

    Republicans voting yes:
    Wally Herger (Chico)
    Dan Lungren (Gold River)
    George Radanovich (Mariposa)
    Howard “Buck” McKeon (Santa Clarita)
    David Dreier (San Dimas)
    Jerry Lewis (Redlands)
    Gary Miller (Diamond Bar)
    Ken Calvert (Corona)
    Mary Bono Mack (Palm Springs)
    John Campbell (Irvine)

    Republicans voting no:
    John Doolittle (Roseville)
    David Nunes (Tulare)
    Kevin McCarthy (Bakersfield)
    Elton Gallegly (Simi Valley)
    Ed Royce (Fullerton)
    Dana Rohrabacher (Huntington Beach)
    Darrell Issa (Vista)
    Brian Bilbray (Carlsbad)
    Duncan Hunter (Alpine)

    Democrats voting yes:
    Doris Matsui (Sacramento)
    George Miller (Martinez)
    Nancy Pelosi (San Francisco)
    Ellen Tauscher (Alamo)
    Jerry McNerney (Pleasanton)
    Jackie Speier (Hillsborough)
    Anna Eshoo (Menlo Park)
    Mike Honda (San Jose)
    Zoe Lofgren (San Jose)
    Sam Farr (Carmel)
    Dennis Cardoza (Atwater)
    Jim Costa (Fresno)
    Lois Capps (Santa Barbara)
    Howard Berman (Valley Village)
    Henry Waxman (Beverly Hills)
    Maxine Waters (Los Angeles)
    Jane Harman (Venice)
    Laura Richardson (Long Beach)
    Susan Davis (San Diego)

    Democrats voting no:
    Mike Thompson (St. Helena)
    Lynn Woolsey (Petaluma)
    Barbara Lee (Oakland)
    Pete Stark (Fremont)
    Brad Sherman (Sherman Oaks)
    Adam Schiff (Burbank)
    Xavier Becerra (Los Angeles)
    Hilda Solis (El Monte)
    Diane Watson (Los Angeles)
    Lucille Roybal-Allard (East Los Angeles)
    Grace Napolitano (Norwalk)
    Linda Sanchez (Lakewood)
    Joe Baca (Rialto)
    Loretta Sanchez (Garden Grove)
    Bob Filner (Chula Vista)

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