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CoronitaParticipant[quote=CA renter]For one thing, phaster, while you’ve been obsessing about what other people’s benefits are costing, there are people who’ve been actively working on solutions to these problems. One part of the solution began about 20 years ago when public employers started to get rid of retiree healthcare…which will begin affecting retirement ages (causing them to go up) within the next 10 years as employees without retiree healthcare stay on longer in order to retain their medical coverage. This is something that is not yet being calculated in the actuarial data, and may never be included, even though it will have a fairly significant effect, especially WRT public safety workers. In 2013, PEPRA was enacted, and many employees are receiving lower benefits and paying more toward their retirement. Over the past few years, employers have also been renegotiating contracts, and employees have been paying more toward their retirement and healthcare costs — even longer-term employees are being affected.
More solutions are being worked on at this very moment, and we’ll begin to see a combination of changes within the next 2-3 years, IMO, as benefit formulas are reevaluated and contribution requirements are updated.
All that being said, I still can’t help but wonder if you like to focus so much on the benefits that have been **earned** by public employees in order to distract people’s attention from the multi-billion dollar annual giveaway to property owners such as yourself in the form of Prop 13 subsidies. Most people favor Prop 13 protection for a single primary residence, but they strongly dislike subsidizing the profits of wealthy commercial and residential landlords, wealthy owners of large tracts of land, and entitled heirs of expensive California properties who did absolutely nothing to deserve these billions of dollars in tax subsidies every year.
If you truly care about the heath of our state and local economies, they you should be willing to take the first step yourself. We can discuss the costs of those who’ve earned their benefits AFTER those who have not earned their tax subsidies refuse/refund this money first. Go ahead…prove to everyone how much you care about the financial health of our governmental agencies by paying back your unearned subsidy first (thousands of dollars per year). After you’ve done that, then you can come back and talk to us about reducing the compensation that other people have actually worked for and earned.
BTW, you’re not educating or informing anyone of anything. The pension issue was beaten to death LONG before you ever came into the picture.[/quote]
Yes, phaster please go off and argue with CAR about public pensions.
I don’t know why you continue to drag me into this discussion.Yes, I recognize there is a longer term problem. But it’s not on my radar of important things that I care about. I was dragged into this only because on one thread I brought up CA municipal bonds, and only because on that thread someone asked about a vanguard fund performance, which BTW YTD, again wasn’t bad at all. I might end up selling some in December if the Fed raises rates anyway, and if there are better things out there. And if I do, it will take exactly 1 day for the transaction to complete, which again, is contrary to your belief that a crisis will financially impact me holding this tiny percentage in my portfolio.
Why you keep bringing me into this pension issue is beyond me. Talk and argue with CAR please. CAR is very opinionated on public pensions and the public sector.
And you will get much more response in any fights you try to pick over public pensions. I don’t care about this topic. If you want to talk about peak oil, and what a joke it is, let me know. 🙂Meanwhile, please use your free Obamacare and seek medical care for your drug addiction.
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CoronitaParticipant[quote=utcsox][quote=flu]Not exactly the issue I thought would take down trump, but at this point anything that takes him down is fine with me.
I just hope there’s not a huge impact down ticket. But if there is, all the right wing nut jobs can definitely blame Trump on that one.
It is pretty funny to watch all the republicans that recently endorsed or supported Trump all the sudden squirm.[/quote]
I disagree. For the last year, we have seen what prominent Republicans leaders can live with. They can live with his racist views of Mexican immigrants, Muslims, and African Americans. And somehow suddenly they are all outrage by the grab me by the P**** statement? Why do these elected Republicans who kowtow to Trump deserve to hold on to their offices? If they cannot even stand against Trump, somehow we shall trust them to do the right things when they are re-elected again?[/quote]
I can’t say I disagree with you. It seems like some people care more about keeping their job than doing the right thing.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=flu]Remember folks… Filner apparently was removed from office, right?[/quote]Um, Filner was a Democrat. And a very competent one at that (I can’t say the same for his Republican running mate, Carl De Maio, lol). Filner never grabbed anyone’s crotch but just got into the habit of appearing to “proposition” co-workers and colleagues. That was too much liability for City so they were able to successfully get him to resign.[/quote]
Yes, he was a democrat. Your point? People with a questionable character should be removed from office.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]imagine some future candidate.
hes great.
you love him.
hes the best candidate. however, he loves to have sex with animals. thats a crime. but he can refrain while in office. do i not elect him just because he prefers having sex, with , say geese? no. i just dont really care. i cannot judge someones character in that way. a guy who likes to have sex with geese could still be the better leader.
i dont think trump sees it as nonconsensual. in his warped little mind, theyre consenting because hes a rich star. hes sick, and weird, but if he were the best candidate, i dont know that this should absolutely disqualify him. he thinks hes gods gift to women, that everyone wants him. like the bestiality guy should still be elected, maybe this in itself is not a fatal character flaw.
i dont know..[/quote]
Uh, no…. And besides, he’s not qualified.
CoronitaParticipantMan, this is a historic event. I can’t believe some of the GOP are trying to figure out if there’s a way to remove Trump from the ticket, just a few weeks before the election. Wow, just wow..
I wonder how badly his brand is damaged by this…
CoronitaParticipantRemember folks… Filner apparently was removed from office, right?
CoronitaParticipantNot exactly the issue I thought would take down trump, but at this point anything that takes him down is fine with me.
I just hope there’s not a huge impact down ticket. But if there is, all the right wing nut jobs can definitely blame Trump on that one.
It is pretty funny to watch all the republicans that recently endorsed or supported Trump all the sudden squirm.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]
i was not offended in that context. it was jocular.
if he had been serious and meanspirited about going and grabbing some pussy at that moment, it would have been offensive. this was more of howard sternish performance art.
not great, politically, but i remain unoffended…[/quote]
Well, I guess there are things people say and do from the past that finally catches up when they are running for public office.
I think most of the pigg posters can rule out running for public office 🙂
CoronitaParticipantThe irony to this is after this weekend, I don’t think many people are paying that much attention to the latest WikiLeaks and/or Russian hacks.
McCain is out…(never understood why he was in. He was going to win anyway Az, as a respectable person)
Wow, if there’s this much ammunication when the elections are still weeks away, I can’t imagine what more dirt there is that will be released 2 weeks before election.
Karma sure is a bitch.
I think we have a new name for Trump..
#Gropin’Trump
CoronitaParticipantYou folks did catch the news a few months ago about how Trump was accused of committing rape with underage girl(ss). It was quickly dismissed by his supporters at the time, back in June. But it looks like a judge is now going to hear the case(s)..
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/federal-judge-orders-hearing-in-donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-case/
CoronitaParticipantZk,
Trump said it: “zero chance he will quit”….No worries about pence.
CoronitaParticipantWow. Thanks Phaster, for dedicating a new post for me.
My thoughts on the charger stadium? No….
Leave it alone. Don’t build anything new. Take it or leave it as is.
….Otherwise, I need to find another place to autocross, and there is no better place to autocross in CA than on the west parking lot….
CoronitaParticipantWow, mroe control-c , control-v from phaster. So, you’re posting what was posted a few months ago by others. Nothing earth shattering here.
Get off the drugs phaster. Or at least start a new thread. Sheesh, why you keep posting on a BG thread is beyond me. Get off the the drugs.
How’s peak oil doing? 🙂
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