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CoronitaParticipantI don't want to be a donkey, but how did AMD top estimates?
AMD 7.58, +0.02, +0.3%) reported a fourth-quarter net loss of $1.772 billion, or $3.06 per share, compared with a loss of $576 million, or $1.08 per share, for the same period last year.
Revenue for the period remained relatively flat at $1.77 billion — shy of the $1.79 billion expected by analysts, according to estimates from Thomson Financial.It's dropped from a high of $41 in early 2006 to $7.58 and took a 1.7 billion write off on its ATI acquisition.
The company reported late Thursday its quarterly loss declined, excluding a $1.61 billion impairment charge for overspending on its 2006 acquisition of graphics chip maker ATI Technologies Inc.
Excluding such one-time items, AMD posted a loss 17 cents per share. Analysts polled by Thomson Financial, on average, expected a loss of 36 cents a share.
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Surely by now you know how the game is played. It's not always about how much money you actually make or lose .It's about meeting, beating, or falling short of expectations. 🙂
AMD, though in the crapper, posted a 17cents/share loss. Ah, but all the analysts were expecting much worse. Like I said, it might not make sense, but why did intel which pretty much made money, but came short of expectations drop 20+%, while amd, which lost money, rose after earnings about 13%. No expert here, but I think AMD probably has more potential to go up on rumors and momentum more so than intel at this point. Me thinks AMD pretty much flushed out a lot of bad news earlier . And i won't be surprised in theirs rumors of a takeover, buyout on the horizon. At $6/share a few days ago, it was cheap to take a chance. Highly speculative, but I figure that fund from UAE that invested in AMD at $8/share would be worse off 🙂
The impression i got from intel during the con-call was that they are hiding behind their numbers, just in case the recession does impact them- their saying they're not being hit by the recession, that the channels are good, and they expect to do just fine in Q1, yet they still didn't revise their q1 numbers.
Take a look at apple for another instance. Great company, great products, makes a hell of lot of money. Came short on analysts expectations. Stock gets wacked.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
CoronitaParticipantI don't want to be a donkey, but how did AMD top estimates?
AMD 7.58, +0.02, +0.3%) reported a fourth-quarter net loss of $1.772 billion, or $3.06 per share, compared with a loss of $576 million, or $1.08 per share, for the same period last year.
Revenue for the period remained relatively flat at $1.77 billion — shy of the $1.79 billion expected by analysts, according to estimates from Thomson Financial.It's dropped from a high of $41 in early 2006 to $7.58 and took a 1.7 billion write off on its ATI acquisition.
The company reported late Thursday its quarterly loss declined, excluding a $1.61 billion impairment charge for overspending on its 2006 acquisition of graphics chip maker ATI Technologies Inc.
Excluding such one-time items, AMD posted a loss 17 cents per share. Analysts polled by Thomson Financial, on average, expected a loss of 36 cents a share.
….
Surely by now you know how the game is played. It's not always about how much money you actually make or lose .It's about meeting, beating, or falling short of expectations. 🙂
AMD, though in the crapper, posted a 17cents/share loss. Ah, but all the analysts were expecting much worse. Like I said, it might not make sense, but why did intel which pretty much made money, but came short of expectations drop 20+%, while amd, which lost money, rose after earnings about 13%. No expert here, but I think AMD probably has more potential to go up on rumors and momentum more so than intel at this point. Me thinks AMD pretty much flushed out a lot of bad news earlier . And i won't be surprised in theirs rumors of a takeover, buyout on the horizon. At $6/share a few days ago, it was cheap to take a chance. Highly speculative, but I figure that fund from UAE that invested in AMD at $8/share would be worse off 🙂
The impression i got from intel during the con-call was that they are hiding behind their numbers, just in case the recession does impact them- their saying they're not being hit by the recession, that the channels are good, and they expect to do just fine in Q1, yet they still didn't revise their q1 numbers.
Take a look at apple for another instance. Great company, great products, makes a hell of lot of money. Came short on analysts expectations. Stock gets wacked.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
CoronitaParticipantI don't want to be a donkey, but how did AMD top estimates?
AMD 7.58, +0.02, +0.3%) reported a fourth-quarter net loss of $1.772 billion, or $3.06 per share, compared with a loss of $576 million, or $1.08 per share, for the same period last year.
Revenue for the period remained relatively flat at $1.77 billion — shy of the $1.79 billion expected by analysts, according to estimates from Thomson Financial.It's dropped from a high of $41 in early 2006 to $7.58 and took a 1.7 billion write off on its ATI acquisition.
The company reported late Thursday its quarterly loss declined, excluding a $1.61 billion impairment charge for overspending on its 2006 acquisition of graphics chip maker ATI Technologies Inc.
Excluding such one-time items, AMD posted a loss 17 cents per share. Analysts polled by Thomson Financial, on average, expected a loss of 36 cents a share.
….
Surely by now you know how the game is played. It's not always about how much money you actually make or lose .It's about meeting, beating, or falling short of expectations. 🙂
AMD, though in the crapper, posted a 17cents/share loss. Ah, but all the analysts were expecting much worse. Like I said, it might not make sense, but why did intel which pretty much made money, but came short of expectations drop 20+%, while amd, which lost money, rose after earnings about 13%. No expert here, but I think AMD probably has more potential to go up on rumors and momentum more so than intel at this point. Me thinks AMD pretty much flushed out a lot of bad news earlier . And i won't be surprised in theirs rumors of a takeover, buyout on the horizon. At $6/share a few days ago, it was cheap to take a chance. Highly speculative, but I figure that fund from UAE that invested in AMD at $8/share would be worse off 🙂
The impression i got from intel during the con-call was that they are hiding behind their numbers, just in case the recession does impact them- their saying they're not being hit by the recession, that the channels are good, and they expect to do just fine in Q1, yet they still didn't revise their q1 numbers.
Take a look at apple for another instance. Great company, great products, makes a hell of lot of money. Came short on analysts expectations. Stock gets wacked.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
CoronitaParticipantI don't want to be a donkey, but how did AMD top estimates?
AMD 7.58, +0.02, +0.3%) reported a fourth-quarter net loss of $1.772 billion, or $3.06 per share, compared with a loss of $576 million, or $1.08 per share, for the same period last year.
Revenue for the period remained relatively flat at $1.77 billion — shy of the $1.79 billion expected by analysts, according to estimates from Thomson Financial.It's dropped from a high of $41 in early 2006 to $7.58 and took a 1.7 billion write off on its ATI acquisition.
The company reported late Thursday its quarterly loss declined, excluding a $1.61 billion impairment charge for overspending on its 2006 acquisition of graphics chip maker ATI Technologies Inc.
Excluding such one-time items, AMD posted a loss 17 cents per share. Analysts polled by Thomson Financial, on average, expected a loss of 36 cents a share.
….
Surely by now you know how the game is played. It's not always about how much money you actually make or lose .It's about meeting, beating, or falling short of expectations. 🙂
AMD, though in the crapper, posted a 17cents/share loss. Ah, but all the analysts were expecting much worse. Like I said, it might not make sense, but why did intel which pretty much made money, but came short of expectations drop 20+%, while amd, which lost money, rose after earnings about 13%. No expert here, but I think AMD probably has more potential to go up on rumors and momentum more so than intel at this point. Me thinks AMD pretty much flushed out a lot of bad news earlier . And i won't be surprised in theirs rumors of a takeover, buyout on the horizon. At $6/share a few days ago, it was cheap to take a chance. Highly speculative, but I figure that fund from UAE that invested in AMD at $8/share would be worse off 🙂
The impression i got from intel during the con-call was that they are hiding behind their numbers, just in case the recession does impact them- their saying they're not being hit by the recession, that the channels are good, and they expect to do just fine in Q1, yet they still didn't revise their q1 numbers.
Take a look at apple for another instance. Great company, great products, makes a hell of lot of money. Came short on analysts expectations. Stock gets wacked.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
CoronitaParticipantWhat are you talking about? APPL blew away all estimates. What they did was lower guidance for next quarter, which is still higher than last year's.
"OMG! Apple's best quarter ever? We are all DOOMED!! SELL!!"
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1062.html
Sure, for the past quarter …..But you know how the game is played. It's not always just about how much a company actually makes, a lot has to do about meeting,beating, or falling short of expectations. Apple fell short on guidance for the next quarter, and it raised concerns of a slowdown (perhaps unfounded..but time will tell) And it announced this on a really bad day on wall street. Perhaps wall street has set the bar too high, but it is what it is. And when at a rich $200/share, any slight deviation from expectation, it was bound to get wacked. I doubt we'll see $200/share again in the short term. And if they have another quarter that just meets or lowers expectations next time, I would think wall street is going to wack the stock some more. As much as i like their products, I cant convince myself to buy shares at this level.
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The company's earnings-per-share guidance of 94 cents was 15 cents short of what Wall Street was expecting. The sales forecast of $6.8 billion was roughly $200 million short of analyst estimates. The period covers the first three months of 2008.
Apple executives provided little explanation for the guidance shortfall, noting that sales are still expected to grow 29 percent, more than in previous years.
Apple has historically given conservative guidance, but the size of the miss rattled investors already skittish about the health of the economy.
Lower-than-expected sales of iPods loomed over the results.
Many analysts were expecting Apple to sell around 25 million iPods during the holiday quarter. Apple, however, sold 22.1 million, a figure that stirred fears sales will suffer as the company tries to convince consumers to buy higher-end iPods.
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—– Sour grapes for everyone!
CoronitaParticipantWhat are you talking about? APPL blew away all estimates. What they did was lower guidance for next quarter, which is still higher than last year's.
"OMG! Apple's best quarter ever? We are all DOOMED!! SELL!!"
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1062.html
Sure, for the past quarter …..But you know how the game is played. It's not always just about how much a company actually makes, a lot has to do about meeting,beating, or falling short of expectations. Apple fell short on guidance for the next quarter, and it raised concerns of a slowdown (perhaps unfounded..but time will tell) And it announced this on a really bad day on wall street. Perhaps wall street has set the bar too high, but it is what it is. And when at a rich $200/share, any slight deviation from expectation, it was bound to get wacked. I doubt we'll see $200/share again in the short term. And if they have another quarter that just meets or lowers expectations next time, I would think wall street is going to wack the stock some more. As much as i like their products, I cant convince myself to buy shares at this level.
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The company's earnings-per-share guidance of 94 cents was 15 cents short of what Wall Street was expecting. The sales forecast of $6.8 billion was roughly $200 million short of analyst estimates. The period covers the first three months of 2008.
Apple executives provided little explanation for the guidance shortfall, noting that sales are still expected to grow 29 percent, more than in previous years.
Apple has historically given conservative guidance, but the size of the miss rattled investors already skittish about the health of the economy.
Lower-than-expected sales of iPods loomed over the results.
Many analysts were expecting Apple to sell around 25 million iPods during the holiday quarter. Apple, however, sold 22.1 million, a figure that stirred fears sales will suffer as the company tries to convince consumers to buy higher-end iPods.
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—– Sour grapes for everyone!
CoronitaParticipantWhat are you talking about? APPL blew away all estimates. What they did was lower guidance for next quarter, which is still higher than last year's.
"OMG! Apple's best quarter ever? We are all DOOMED!! SELL!!"
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1062.html
Sure, for the past quarter …..But you know how the game is played. It's not always just about how much a company actually makes, a lot has to do about meeting,beating, or falling short of expectations. Apple fell short on guidance for the next quarter, and it raised concerns of a slowdown (perhaps unfounded..but time will tell) And it announced this on a really bad day on wall street. Perhaps wall street has set the bar too high, but it is what it is. And when at a rich $200/share, any slight deviation from expectation, it was bound to get wacked. I doubt we'll see $200/share again in the short term. And if they have another quarter that just meets or lowers expectations next time, I would think wall street is going to wack the stock some more. As much as i like their products, I cant convince myself to buy shares at this level.
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The company's earnings-per-share guidance of 94 cents was 15 cents short of what Wall Street was expecting. The sales forecast of $6.8 billion was roughly $200 million short of analyst estimates. The period covers the first three months of 2008.
Apple executives provided little explanation for the guidance shortfall, noting that sales are still expected to grow 29 percent, more than in previous years.
Apple has historically given conservative guidance, but the size of the miss rattled investors already skittish about the health of the economy.
Lower-than-expected sales of iPods loomed over the results.
Many analysts were expecting Apple to sell around 25 million iPods during the holiday quarter. Apple, however, sold 22.1 million, a figure that stirred fears sales will suffer as the company tries to convince consumers to buy higher-end iPods.
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—– Sour grapes for everyone!
CoronitaParticipantWhat are you talking about? APPL blew away all estimates. What they did was lower guidance for next quarter, which is still higher than last year's.
"OMG! Apple's best quarter ever? We are all DOOMED!! SELL!!"
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1062.html
Sure, for the past quarter …..But you know how the game is played. It's not always just about how much a company actually makes, a lot has to do about meeting,beating, or falling short of expectations. Apple fell short on guidance for the next quarter, and it raised concerns of a slowdown (perhaps unfounded..but time will tell) And it announced this on a really bad day on wall street. Perhaps wall street has set the bar too high, but it is what it is. And when at a rich $200/share, any slight deviation from expectation, it was bound to get wacked. I doubt we'll see $200/share again in the short term. And if they have another quarter that just meets or lowers expectations next time, I would think wall street is going to wack the stock some more. As much as i like their products, I cant convince myself to buy shares at this level.
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The company's earnings-per-share guidance of 94 cents was 15 cents short of what Wall Street was expecting. The sales forecast of $6.8 billion was roughly $200 million short of analyst estimates. The period covers the first three months of 2008.
Apple executives provided little explanation for the guidance shortfall, noting that sales are still expected to grow 29 percent, more than in previous years.
Apple has historically given conservative guidance, but the size of the miss rattled investors already skittish about the health of the economy.
Lower-than-expected sales of iPods loomed over the results.
Many analysts were expecting Apple to sell around 25 million iPods during the holiday quarter. Apple, however, sold 22.1 million, a figure that stirred fears sales will suffer as the company tries to convince consumers to buy higher-end iPods.
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—– Sour grapes for everyone!
CoronitaParticipantWhat are you talking about? APPL blew away all estimates. What they did was lower guidance for next quarter, which is still higher than last year's.
"OMG! Apple's best quarter ever? We are all DOOMED!! SELL!!"
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1062.html
Sure, for the past quarter …..But you know how the game is played. It's not always just about how much a company actually makes, a lot has to do about meeting,beating, or falling short of expectations. Apple fell short on guidance for the next quarter, and it raised concerns of a slowdown (perhaps unfounded..but time will tell) And it announced this on a really bad day on wall street. Perhaps wall street has set the bar too high, but it is what it is. And when at a rich $200/share, any slight deviation from expectation, it was bound to get wacked. I doubt we'll see $200/share again in the short term. And if they have another quarter that just meets or lowers expectations next time, I would think wall street is going to wack the stock some more. As much as i like their products, I cant convince myself to buy shares at this level.
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The company's earnings-per-share guidance of 94 cents was 15 cents short of what Wall Street was expecting. The sales forecast of $6.8 billion was roughly $200 million short of analyst estimates. The period covers the first three months of 2008.
Apple executives provided little explanation for the guidance shortfall, noting that sales are still expected to grow 29 percent, more than in previous years.
Apple has historically given conservative guidance, but the size of the miss rattled investors already skittish about the health of the economy.
Lower-than-expected sales of iPods loomed over the results.
Many analysts were expecting Apple to sell around 25 million iPods during the holiday quarter. Apple, however, sold 22.1 million, a figure that stirred fears sales will suffer as the company tries to convince consumers to buy higher-end iPods.
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—– Sour grapes for everyone!
CoronitaParticipantIt looks like the 'sky is falling' thing may be related to one rogue trader in France committing something like 7 billion dollars worth of securities fraud.
Nice for once that we aren't to blame!
In a somehow sick and twisted way.. I think it's quite astonishing that a single trader can cause this much damage to a company. I mean, being friends with a lot of wall street brats, I know that it's possible…But it just amazes me. Kinda cool that a single person has that much influence.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
CoronitaParticipantIt looks like the 'sky is falling' thing may be related to one rogue trader in France committing something like 7 billion dollars worth of securities fraud.
Nice for once that we aren't to blame!
In a somehow sick and twisted way.. I think it's quite astonishing that a single trader can cause this much damage to a company. I mean, being friends with a lot of wall street brats, I know that it's possible…But it just amazes me. Kinda cool that a single person has that much influence.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
CoronitaParticipantIt looks like the 'sky is falling' thing may be related to one rogue trader in France committing something like 7 billion dollars worth of securities fraud.
Nice for once that we aren't to blame!
In a somehow sick and twisted way.. I think it's quite astonishing that a single trader can cause this much damage to a company. I mean, being friends with a lot of wall street brats, I know that it's possible…But it just amazes me. Kinda cool that a single person has that much influence.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
CoronitaParticipantIt looks like the 'sky is falling' thing may be related to one rogue trader in France committing something like 7 billion dollars worth of securities fraud.
Nice for once that we aren't to blame!
In a somehow sick and twisted way.. I think it's quite astonishing that a single trader can cause this much damage to a company. I mean, being friends with a lot of wall street brats, I know that it's possible…But it just amazes me. Kinda cool that a single person has that much influence.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
CoronitaParticipantIt looks like the 'sky is falling' thing may be related to one rogue trader in France committing something like 7 billion dollars worth of securities fraud.
Nice for once that we aren't to blame!
In a somehow sick and twisted way.. I think it's quite astonishing that a single trader can cause this much damage to a company. I mean, being friends with a lot of wall street brats, I know that it's possible…But it just amazes me. Kinda cool that a single person has that much influence.
[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]
—– Sour grapes for everyone!
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