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CoronitaParticipantThe Onion is classic.
“Xi Jinping Vows To Combat Coronavirus By Making It Illegal To Mention Within A Week”
CoronitaParticipantWas over at Daiso and Zion Markets yesterday. Plenty of people wearing a surgical mask. And among a friend group, there was one parent that was admonished by other asian parents because her mother just came back from Hubei and was dropping offer grandkids at Ocean Air school for a few days, refuses to go see a doctor and refuses to go get tested by a doctor and continues to think she’s not sick and not contagious and doesn’t care. That’s also part of the problem. Some people who are at risk probably don’t care.
That said, US is probably going to be ok because it seems like we have the resources and medical facilities to deal with this, and the CDC seems to be on top of this and don’t have any motivations to cover things up or drag their feet… Neither do any of the asian nations, since they’ll probably just close their borders.
China will see the worst of it because as many of the CDC professionals already suspected, China’s local province tried to cover this up and didn’t respond to the issue quick enough and didn’t report these cases earlier to Beijing central in time for Beijing to send resources right away, and those people that already started to send out warnings from the local provinces were either arrested or suppressed and the state control media couldn’t report what was really happening, as some of the people locally there were already telling others over the phone or snapchat etc. So while Beijing responded rather quickly and drastically to quarantine the entire province, which is remarkable in itself, because it probably couldn’t have been done elsewhere, it’s probably too late. And only now is part of this truth being reported…
Here’s the english version of what happened earlier:
“China spent the crucial first days of the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak arresting people who posted about it online and threatening journalists”
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-information-crackdown-on-wuhan-coronavirus-2020-1
Don’t even try to draw a comparison between China’s control on the media and the Trump administration. While Trump administration has been trying its best to suppress the truth and shame journalists as disgusting at it is, none of our journalists are taking it.
There’s a reason why among many asians particularly Chinese why they are taking precautions (to the point of borderline paranoia). No one trusts the Chinese government. People from China that are here don’t trust what the Chinese government is saying. Because there’s a precedence for the mistrust. Anyone that lived or grew up in China or stayed there for some time enough to understand how the system really works understands and knows this sort game…it’s tolerated because how else do you control a country with over 1 billion people. You can’t possibly give them all equal rights, and god forbid democracy. Majority of them wouldn’t be able to make a sound decision..At least that’s the party line.Central authoritative government works great for public works when forcing an entire neighborhood to pack up and leave so that a high speed rail system can be put in a matter of weeks. Because if you live along the train tracks, you have no choice but to move. Sorry you lived there all your life, but Beijing needs a rail system put in, and all you whiners that are about to lose a home have no voice, and you can try to complain, but we’ll arrest you. Central authoritative government wont work if the local provinces aren’t singing the same tune and when professionals dealing with real people and real data can’t freely report what they are seeing…Well see this whenever there’s a outbreak like this.
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CoronitaParticipantBrian logic:
My best friend from China did better than you because I have to make you feel bad that someone did better than you
well maybe your best friend from China did better than you Brian simply because he didn’t waste all his time on piggington getting butt hurt about Trump, Republicans, and the state of the US. After all, he’s Asian and probably uses his time.to figure out how to improve himself that expecting everyone else to change.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi]Flu, you are doom and gloom here. Please don’t talk for me.
China will get through just fine. They will build their hospitals, showcase their technology and logistics. They will get infrastructure exports out of this.You think you did well investing in America? What if you were invested in China in the past 3 decades? You were the pessimist on China, so please shut up.[/quote]
Brian have YOU invested in China? Have YOU bought a house in Beijing? What makes you think some us didn’t? Have you even BEEN to China. Yes I understand you got this yellow fever going on in your blood that’s got your judgement sort of wacked, but come on man. open your eyes dude.
And furthermore. I don’t need a yardstick to measure how well I did relative to everyone else. I’m perfectly happy with where I am. Thank you very much for asking . I don’t need a specific party to win or a specific ugly politician to win in 2020. You and a few others seem to “need” that and “need” the world to come apart just so others can be as miserable as you are. That’s why you’re constantly camping out here trying to stir up the shitstorm of every thread about trump, the US economy, and everything else you don’t like, until recently when more than one person has finally started calling you out on it. or more recently when all the events no longer fit your narrative not spdrun. Then the two of you went into hiding, I guess embarrassed for predicting the unoredictable, only to re-emerge when current events “might” give you a shred of support to your extremely negative narrative like right now …. Where all the sudden you and spdrun surprise surprise are starting to post again after a few days of being silent after your narratives blew up in your faces the first few weeks of this month.
and it’s pretty predictable that once the current events no longer jive with your narratives, both of you will go into hiding again. Just like all those professed expects on Yahoo finance’s message boards when their narratives blow up in their faces too.
While as, some of us, who really have no vested interest in seeing anyone else explicitly fail or don’t think this is a zero sum game could care less how the wind blows at any instance in time. since neither good or bad would make or break us. But do tell us how well your fake.investments in fake areas like China turned out for you, since you did bring it up.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=spdrun]Nope. The markets were set for a fall with or without coronavirus. Impeachment, Brexit passing, and a general bubble that’s primed to pop. Donnie Boy finally blew his “big, ugly bubble” … 25% annual rise in the S&P 500 without a real rise in fundamentals. Market peak was 17 January, before coronavirus was a big deal in the US media.
I’m not happy about coronavirus — I will be happy if the economy gets us a social democrat as President this year, not a wrecker like Trump. We need public health insurance, more trains (beautiful trains), and cheap education, not $400 billion a year flushed down the toilet on military adventurism. Someone like Sanders would fix a lot of problems caused by the bad governance and military homicide sprees of the past 19-odd years.[/quote]
Oh please. you speak like you know what you are talking about if you did, you would have been better off sticking in things on an index fund for the past decade and financially done way better than what you have been unsuccessfully trying to do all these years since you first started posting on piggs. Because every year, just like some of you Uber bears, you tried to time a stock market crash, thinking the next big one would make you gobs of money to retire, it didn’t and so you pushed out your hope for that crash the next time, only to be disappointed again. that’s why you keep posting “here’s to a market crash” almost every year since you’ve been here. Meanwhile, just about everyone that did a drip investment all these years, diversified , paid off loans, paid off homes, live free and clear and still left things in the market for the long term have emerged way better than you have trying to time the markets. Because while some people were able to add a 3rd, 4th, 5th property these years, pay them off, you’re still wishing for that big crash before getting your next one. You’re looking forward to a 280 drop after how much the markets have climbed????? And of course when the markets were closing all this time , conveniently you were MIA on this board because you probably got butt hurt that you’ve been wrong all this time and didn’t want to get reminded of it. Just like if all the sudden that -280 pt plunge ends up turning only into a -50pt by the end of the day or actually turn green this week, you will silently disappear again like you did last time when the markets dipped -180pts and came right back the next day. I call it how it is.
For this virus to make a long permanent dent in the economy would require this thing to be a huge epidemic. Not even SARS had an long effect on the markets. IF that did happen and this was a huge epidemic… everyone has a lot bigger problems to worry about. you might be sick and end up dead anyway. Lol on thinking that people dying is going to make housing more affordable. If that were true, those of you wishing for that , if it were to happen, would probably end up dead too.
Oh well, I’m ready, I’m not afraid of death..Already came close a few times. You?
It kinda reminds of those times when we had all those fires in San Diego. There was this guy at work that no one liked who said a few times the fires were good since it would bring down home prices so he afford one. And then a few years later, when we had a even bigger fire, I heard from an ex coworker that he did end up buying a house in RB that ended up burning down in the subsequent fire…. So I don’t think you want to go there.
CoronitaParticipantCoronitaParticipant[quote=spdrun]Yield curve inversion coming soon … tick … tock … tick … tock. DOW futures -278 points. Ride ’em down, boys![/quote]
lol. I suspected you and flyerinhi would be happy seeing people die just to see the markets dip. Pretty sad reflection of character, but we already knew that, lol.
CoronitaParticipantso far the flu is still a bigger killer in the US and it will be interesting to see how the US health system handles this.
We might be a lot better way to handle this , not just because of the technology but simply we don’t have as large a population.
And worst comes to worst, you could quarantine all Asian people and let god sort us out. The concern some parents are having is kids has a lot of friends that are also chinese, and they have a lot of relatives and their friends and their relatives. Some probably were in central China or will be coming back from Central China….My kid was suppose to go hang out with a friend and I git a call from a parent that asked me “have you been to central China, or have anyone else you live with been”
I laughed and said no, and apologized for laughing because I was tempted to ask the parent the same question but thought it might be rude. Their kids are home because they took them out of Chinese school this week and next week..They need to make things for school, and parents asked if it was ok to go to a craft store in Poway instead of Hobby Lobby in Mira Mesa because they don’t want to go where there are a lot of Asian people. Again, insort of chuckled because even though I think that’s pretty extreme, I can understand this germaphobia reaction. And the funny part is…they are from mainland china originally. So maybe it’s an over reaction. Or maybe Chinese parents here don’t trust the Chinese government in what they say. it seems like they are slowly changing their tune and now saying it’s far more contagious than it was previously disclosed. Nice.
Conspiracy theorist says that using a virus as biological weapon would be very effective come to think about it. Infect a bunch of students studying in the US with a highly contagious virus that doesn’t show symptoms for 2-3 weeks over holiday, return to school and infect everyone else….I doubt this was planned or deliberate but it would be pretty effective if it was deliberate.
CoronitaParticipantI think I’m going to buy a few medical masks… you know just in case.
CoronitaParticipantCalifornia’s first case in Orange County.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/health-officials-confirm-case-virus-california-68538953
Not going any Asian supermarkets or restaurants for the next couple of weeks. Yes, admittedly I have germaphobia
CoronitaParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi]Doom and gloom coming from you, flu?
This is bad, but China will get thought it and all will be forgotten in time.
The silver lining is that they will be able to show their logistics prowess in the process.[/quote]you are seriously comparing an hypothetical “Brian theorized” trump economic meltdown that you have been pathetically trying and failing to push on piggington and demonstrating you are wrong….
….to a viral outbreak that killing people with local people actually reporting real numbers that 4x what the state run and controlled media is allowed to report …which itself should give pause for a thought to anyone who isnt dumbshit.Really? Are you even serious?????
You really need to win an argument for arguments sake? You are that pathetic? Really?
Ok, if it really makes you feel better. You win. You’re an exemplary model citizen. We should all aspire to be more like you. If it really really makes your cold, sick, spiteful, dark inards feel better. I’ll say what you want to hear so you can feel better about yourself….
CoronitaParticipant..or maybe it wasn’t from a wild animal after all….maybe it was from a lab….
“Virus-hit Wuhan has two laboratories linked to Chinese bio-warfare program”
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