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CoronitaParticipant[quote=flu][quote=spdrun]^^^ Why would the US military want to destroy our own economy? This makes zero sense. Also, viruses can seemingly come out of nowhere. See also: 1918-20 “Spanish” flu and Polio.[/quote]
Why so defensive? You have been begging for this for last five years. Let economy and Americans suffer for your personal gain. You should be jumping on deals left and right[/quote]
Exactly, based on you and brian’s and other’s prior post, I thought people would be happy that a once in a lifetime catastrophic event like a pandemic virus wreaks havoc on the economy. I thought your plan was to celebrate that if the virus gets worse and wreaks havoc on highly dense tourist focus areas like Las Vegas, people should be very giddy and happy with the ultimate mass job losses and layoffs that will happen. And when that happens, lots of people won’t be able to pay rent or mortgages, and they will have to fold and leave the place, and property values will go upside down…including all the people that bought homes specifically for the purposes of Airbnb and vrbo and now having a tough time renting out. Isn’t this usually the point in time where you guys laugh at how people are getting screwed, calling them dumbasses as in the past posts, and can’t wait for things to tank even further? Didn’t a few days ago, you even said the virus would be a good thing as it apparently would make people sterile or debilitate people? Or did you think it would only apply to others, and somehow you would be immune to this?.
And those of us sitting on a boatload of cash can go in like vultures and pick the flesh of the remaining dead bodies, profitting off of the misfortunes of others. I thought you and Brian of all people would be jumping up and down all over this…Come on man, when are we going to do this? aren’t you excited and giddly we are gonna get our chance ..You are finally going to be able to laugh your asses off at all the people that will be financially affected by this pandemic who finally get thrown on the street because they are unemployed and sick and this is the once in a lifetime event has given you a wonderful profitable opportunity, like the way you had always dreamed of!!!!This is exactly what you guys wanted. Got cash in hand, waiting for people to eat shit…. Awesome!!!!!!Who’s going to show me foreclosures in vegas. I want in!!!!
(too bad I hate Vegas and have no desire to own property there)
CoronitaParticipantI should stop taking about Vegas. I’m sounding like a Vegas LETDLITA. I don’t live there, I don’t even like the cheesiness of Vegas with a fake Egypt, fake Paris, fake New York, fake Venice, and a few other fake immitations. Maybe if I wanted to get a crash course in being refined and cultured, I could say I visited Paris, New York, Venice, Egypt (in fine print at the Strip)
CoronitaParticipant[quote=flu]Ok, you got me. Not really going for all you can eat shrimp buffet. Going for stripper[/quote]
You know in PRC, they started washing and burning the paper money because it too can carry the virus and live a few hours. So unless strippers reinvent and start taking Venmo, you probably have a greater chance of getting the virus from going to a stripper joint than you are playing poker. Or wear latex gloves.
Hey, I think there’s a business idea right there. Cashless stripper joint.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=flu]Thanks for tips. Not going to gamble. Going for unlimited shrimp buffet and maybe stripper[/quote]
Um. That might be a problem. Because many hotels closed the buffet.
https://www.latimes.com/travel/story/2020-03-10/seven-las-vegas-buffets-shut-down-coronavirus-fears
Come on man. They had to close something as a symbolic gesture. Why not close the loss leading all you can eat buffet and keep the gaming tables open. Profit over public health. Very trumpish imho.
I don’t see how Vegas or the gaming industry could quickly recover. It’s usually the last leg to recover and first leg to go down, historically speaking. So there’s no hurry, better deals ahead. I think during the height of 9/11 friends were receiving free from CA flight+ free hotel stay hoping you would show up to gamble. I’m pretty sure we will see this not so far into the future.
So are you staying at the Trump Hotel? lol
CoronitaParticipant[quote=flu]Just checked prices of air Bnb in Vegas. Prices plummeting! I had rooms booked for trip in May. Now I’m in process of booking penthouse condo on the strip for half price of hotel room. I’m canceling hotel, this much better
Maybe Las Vegas is solution for California homeless problem. We can buy them condos there for fraction of what it costs to support them here[/quote]
Friend, better bring your P100 respirator mask.
I wasn’t that far off and this was before the national emergency was declared.
https://news3lv.com/news/local/9-new-coronavirus-cases-reported-in-clark-county-total-now-at-14
But hotel prices should continue to plummet as well as increased job losses.
https://vegasinc.lasvegassun.com/business/gaming/2020/mar/13/demand-decreased-coronavirus-forces-layoffs-strip/Looks like the mayor ain’t too happy about the Coronavirus news coverage.
Looks like Vegas is going to wait to the very end to declare an emergency. Totally understand why. There’s a boatload of money at stake which obviously is more more important than the public health…. That was similar to Mnuchin and Kudlow’s objection to the EU (and now UK) travel ban. Fortunately, Birx won and beat Mnuchin and Kudlow.
Don’t forget to pack a can of Lysol and hand wipes to wipe down your poker chips, crap dice, and cards. You know they say the Coronavirus can live up to 48hours on plastic like surfaces. It was engineered that way by the US military, according to the best chinese reseachers
CoronitaParticipantI like gold because of only one reason. It looks cool! Bling bling.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=flu]Coronita my friend I think you on to something. This look very bad for Vegas. Is there way we can short vegas real estate? So happy not invested there. Much happiness[/quote]
I don’t think you need to short anything. thingd will shake out by themselves . Asian tourists love going to Vegas. I suspect that signficantly went down when Coronavirus caused Asia to panic. They are staying home, they can’t leave or don’t want to. That was already bad enough. Now that the US is freaking out about this virus, people are staying indoors and avoiding crowded places. Furthermore, some states are banning large venue events. Casinos are a breeding ground for a highly contagious virus. it’s indoors, close quarters, higher population density.Think about it. People say this virus can last on surfaces for a long time. What goes on in casino? People touching poker chips, cards, dice, money, strippers. ok maybe the last one is a stretch. Just about every condition to spread a virus. This puts casinos in a damned if you do damned if you don’t no win situation. Shutdown the casinos, your business tanks. Keep the casinos open , risk spreading a high contagious virus. I suspect the gaming industry will try a half ass solution first. Dont shutdown the entire casino, but close certain venues to try to convince tourists they got it under control. Maybe cancel some shows or some events, but keep the casinos open. It won’t work. it’s the same problem that a cruise ship has. Maybe worse because lots of human contact with items that can transfer virus, unless they start spraying every poker chips with lysol. This is a triple whammy. In a national crisis, that already affects tourism, in this specific international crisis, the international tourists are out, and on top of that, you have a national lockdown strongly encouraging social distancing which is virtually impossible for a casino.
And a geographical location that depends on a majority of this sort of business, it’s a train wreck that will happen. Look no further that what’s happening in Macau right now.
Also, in the short short term , you can’t bet on sports venues that get cancelled, lol.
The gaming industry out of all tourist industries is royally fvcked, right up there with the cruise industry. Especially when this sort of event happens not because of a normal economic boom bust cycle that businesses might have planning for. This was one of those random global disasters that no one was preparing for , especially the gaming industry.. Just wait when the gaming industry and cruise industry signficantly contracts and all those extra workers are no longer needed. Cant pay rent, can’t pay mortgage, can’t find job. They will move where the jobs are.
SD has a certain level of tourism too, but at the same time there was diversification into high tech , biotech, and already defense/military industry here, and now a lot on healthcare.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte][quote=Coronita]https://nypost.com/2020/03/14/bernie-bros-warn-of-massive-exodus-if-democrats-nominate-joe-biden/
I don’t understand the logic here. If Joe gets the nomination versus Bernie, Bernie people rather have Trump in office versus Joe.
What’s wrong with people?
Makes no sense.
[/quote]Well. One could make the same argument about me saying I’d rather vote 3rd party than for Sanders. In essence, that would be giving the race to the incumbent.[/quote]
yes, but the difference is there’s no other third party socialist. At that point, it’s picking the lesser of the evils.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=Hobie]High school kids are prepping for AP tests in May now. With Calif schools closing I wonder how the scores will fare against those states that have not closed.
Rise in Kaplin type specific study on-line coarses.
Again, this might be the turning point for on-line education vs. in person university classrooms.[/quote]
Don’t worry, concerned parent.
We, the College Board will come up with some adversity score that will make for any deficit due to the lack of preparation students on the west coast have. Your only issue is might be that you have to be poor or one of the protected groups to qualify. Asians, Indians, caucasians, you are expected to spend your own money for after school enrichment since you guys are all wealthy and have a disproportionate unfair financial advantage and wealth inequality. You guys study all the time anyway, so things like a pandemic outbreak shouldn’t affect that A++ you are always suppose to get under any circumstances since you guys are known for doing that…always studying. In fact, now that school is closed, most of you Asian, indian, and well to do Caucasian families have more time to prepare for the AP tests, since you aren’t suppose to go out of your house anyway. So you guys are lucky if you don’t get a penalty score for the extra time you now have to prepare for the AP.Then again, if the east coast defers closing schools and later has an outbreak requiring schools to be closed later anyway, maybe the west coast will be the only kids taking the test, and then since it’s curved, everyone has the same level of preparation anyway, well except the Asian, indian, and well to do Caucasian kids where we were expecting you to study during the school closures anyway.. Then the penalty score still might apply to you.
-College Board
Former AP student…. I never found classrooms to be that useful for acing the APs. If there was a diagnosis , I probably would have had adhd since incant sit still in a classroom….locking myself in the library going through a bunch of practice tests the last 3 weeks did. Could have skipped the first year and a half of college. I ended up repeating the classes to get easy A’s lol
CoronitaParticipanthttps://nypost.com/2020/03/14/bernie-bros-warn-of-massive-exodus-if-democrats-nominate-joe-biden/
I don’t understand the logic here. If Joe gets the nomination versus Bernie, Bernie people rather have Trump in office versus Joe.
What’s wrong with people?
Makes no sense.So assuming Biden wins, are there enough independent moderates or moderates willing to cross the line to overcome whatever sit outs the socialists are thinking? I hope so.
Very bizarre.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=The-Shoveler]Can’t help but feel we are really going to regret all these drastic measures (economically). Hopefully this is over in a month or two. There are lots of rumors that China is lying about having this under control as well.[/quote]
Some part of the economy will take a hit, others I’m not so sure.
I don’t think technology will be that bad. As you alluded to, technology will probably be used to try to avoid human contact. For example, we need to spend more money to make remote conference calls more efficient and we have already spent quite a bit. We now need to build out more co-location data farms. It’s not for the same previous reasons that a natural disaster would take out a geographical location, the new concern is if a pandemic cripples workers in one location. Also, the cost is going to be the need to hire more redundant workers.
Biotech and pharma will do well.
Tourism will take a pretty big hit. Just the number of closures and people not wanting to travel. I’m sure the gaming industry will take a big hit. And workers in those industry will take a hit. And any businesses that depends on those workers will take a big and shocking hit Sichuan Casino is advertising heavily. I’m getting an offer for free flights and heavily discounted hotel stays at Vegas (free flight + buy 1 night stay for an extra 2 for free), haven’t seen anything like this since right after 9/11, lol. As tempted I am to “work from home at Vegas” next week , I’ll pass….don’t want to get sick by entering a petridish for a virus. And Asian tourists, a magnet for gambling, probably had fallen or will fall off the cliff. Most of that is discretionary spending that is the first to immediately vaporize very very quickly in any sort of short term unexpected unplanned disaster, more so than a gradual cyclical slow unwind of the economy. Just refer back to the aftermath of 9/11 for reference where people were freaked out and didn’t want to go anywhere.
The other complaint some of my guys are saying is now that they have to work from home, it sucks they are stuck in a 1/1 rental. They now want to live in at least a 2/2, and they were asking the age old question… Is it a good time to buy a 2/2 because renting sucks. I thought about this. Since people no longer need to spend so much time or money commuting to work , maybe that extra cost savings per month does make sense for them to upgrade from a 1/1 to 2/2. even after we return to normal times I don’t think we will continue to work the way we did where everyone returns to the office. It might even make sense to downgrade our office space since if we have gotten use to remote worker, you really don’t need such a big office lease and the company can save money that way too.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte][img_assist|nid=26987|title=COVID-19 vs Seasonal Flu|desc=|link=node|align=center|width=466|height=542][/quote]
The interesting part of this chart is the left side of the U is conveniently absent.
I’m not nearly worried for myself or my kid as I am for people like my parents and my relatives
CoronitaParticipant[quote=ltsdd][quote=Coronita]Im not too worried. You know who is really running the show? It’s not Trump, it’s not Pence.
Deborah Birx.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_L._Birx%5B/quote%5DOne of the bobbleheads behind trump during the news conference, the other being the coronavirus czar (aka pence), that doesn’t even know how many people have been tested? Anyhow, what I tried to point out in the video is the “(oh it’s bad then) I didn’t do it” rambling response from our commander in tweets.[/quote]
Birx actually is pretty highly regarded for her previous work. If you take a look at her background she originally served under the Obama administration , I’m not kidding. And she is known for her work with HIV. Pence is a joke be running this BUT fortunately realized this is way over his head and got someone reasonably competent.
Interesting article from Bloomberg news media (that would never paint this administration in any sort of positive light btw) that highlighted what went down. To Shoveler’s point, it seems like a decision was made to choose between public health versus the economy. Mnuchin and Kudlow were strongly opposed to the EU travel ban. Birx was the one that pushed for the travel ban. Birx won out. Fortunately for us.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=ltsdd][quote=Coronita][quote=flu]All those bigly CEOs joining in to help! It’s great and he’s finally showing he can be a leader when we need him. #Trump2020[/quote]
Come on friend. Really? We know he showed up late just so he wouldn’t tank the markets. Slimeball.
Nothing can top Sarah Palin’s performance on Masked Singer, lol. awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX78DbOXVJ8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zJPcC1-uAeM%5B/quote%5D
This performance takes the cake:
https://twitter.com/NewsHour/status/1238572800186757120%5B/quote%5D
I’m not too worried. You know who is really running the show? It’s not Trump, it’s not Pence.
Deborah Birx.
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