[bob2007]

I’ve had the same experience as njtosd. Originally from Ohio. Moved back there, lasted 18 months. It was great to see the family on visits, snow (more like slush) and cold was fun and a novelty. Living and working there was different.

As with njtosd’s experience, most people grew up and live there, which I though would make things even better. Nice neighbors, family neighborhoods, etc. But in a lot of cases they are not as accepting of new people and its really hard to become a part of a group that has been together 20 years (since high school).

Cost savings were not even close to what I had calculated. Although housing was less, there were a lot of expenses I hadn’t considered: property tax was higher, trash pickup, utilities in winter, etc.

Living essentially indoors for 4-5 months a year was a major change from socal.

People are different, experiences are different, so yours may be completely different. But this story is a very common one.

PS. I would think texas is a better choice: loewer taxes, better weather, and one of the few growing economies with gov’t in place focused on making it better.

[bob2007]

I’ve had the same experience as njtosd. Originally from Ohio. Moved back there, lasted 18 months. It was great to see the family on visits, snow (more like slush) and cold was fun and a novelty. Living and working there was different.

As with njtosd’s experience, most people grew up and live there, which I though would make things even better. Nice neighbors, family neighborhoods, etc. But in a lot of cases they are not as accepting of new people and its really hard to become a part of a group that has been together 20 years (since high school).

Cost savings were not even close to what I had calculated. Although housing was less, there were a lot of expenses I hadn’t considered: property tax was higher, trash pickup, utilities in winter, etc.

Living essentially indoors for 4-5 months a year was a major change from socal.

People are different, experiences are different, so yours may be completely different. But this story is a very common one.

PS. I would think texas is a better choice: loewer taxes, better weather, and one of the few growing economies with gov’t in place focused on making it better.

[bob2007]

Lets say you are 100% correct on all the issues (and it sounds like you are from your argument).

Whenever someone prefaces something with “am I too blunt”, what it usually means is that they have the truth to tell, but are going to do it in a derogatory way.

In this case, your frustration comes straight though, and being in the real estate business that is understandable. I have written emails with a similar level of frustration, and it does seem to help to blow off some steam.

Since you asked for opinions, what I do is then decide if I want the business or not. If I don’t, then I write a very short reply letting them know I cannot accept the business. I am not blunt or derogatory, because at this point I don’t care any more.

If I want the business I write a letter similar to the flu edits, but I usually start over. I then write a positive but firm letter with the intent of persuading them to do the right thing and winning the business for myself.

For example,

Dear xxxx,

We would like to represent your property, but in my professional opinion some major changes would be required in maintenance and marketing.

The property is receiving xxx views but no further contact. This occurs when the presentation is poor and the asking price is high.

The specific maintenance items that need to be addressed are:
. paint
. dogs
. etc…

Based on your comps, the recommended selling price is: xxxx

Again, we would like to represent you in the sale of your property, but unless these items are addressed we will be unable to do so.

Love,

urbanrealtor

(not sure about the love)

[bob2007]

Lets say you are 100% correct on all the issues (and it sounds like you are from your argument).

Whenever someone prefaces something with “am I too blunt”, what it usually means is that they have the truth to tell, but are going to do it in a derogatory way.

In this case, your frustration comes straight though, and being in the real estate business that is understandable. I have written emails with a similar level of frustration, and it does seem to help to blow off some steam.

Since you asked for opinions, what I do is then decide if I want the business or not. If I don’t, then I write a very short reply letting them know I cannot accept the business. I am not blunt or derogatory, because at this point I don’t care any more.

If I want the business I write a letter similar to the flu edits, but I usually start over. I then write a positive but firm letter with the intent of persuading them to do the right thing and winning the business for myself.

For example,

Dear xxxx,

We would like to represent your property, but in my professional opinion some major changes would be required in maintenance and marketing.

The property is receiving xxx views but no further contact. This occurs when the presentation is poor and the asking price is high.

The specific maintenance items that need to be addressed are:
. paint
. dogs
. etc…

Based on your comps, the recommended selling price is: xxxx

Again, we would like to represent you in the sale of your property, but unless these items are addressed we will be unable to do so.

Love,

urbanrealtor

(not sure about the love)

[bob2007]

Lets say you are 100% correct on all the issues (and it sounds like you are from your argument).

Whenever someone prefaces something with “am I too blunt”, what it usually means is that they have the truth to tell, but are going to do it in a derogatory way.

In this case, your frustration comes straight though, and being in the real estate business that is understandable. I have written emails with a similar level of frustration, and it does seem to help to blow off some steam.

Since you asked for opinions, what I do is then decide if I want the business or not. If I don’t, then I write a very short reply letting them know I cannot accept the business. I am not blunt or derogatory, because at this point I don’t care any more.

If I want the business I write a letter similar to the flu edits, but I usually start over. I then write a positive but firm letter with the intent of persuading them to do the right thing and winning the business for myself.

For example,

Dear xxxx,

We would like to represent your property, but in my professional opinion some major changes would be required in maintenance and marketing.

The property is receiving xxx views but no further contact. This occurs when the presentation is poor and the asking price is high.

The specific maintenance items that need to be addressed are:
. paint
. dogs
. etc…

Based on your comps, the recommended selling price is: xxxx

Again, we would like to represent you in the sale of your property, but unless these items are addressed we will be unable to do so.

Love,

urbanrealtor

(not sure about the love)

[bob2007]

Lets say you are 100% correct on all the issues (and it sounds like you are from your argument).

Whenever someone prefaces something with “am I too blunt”, what it usually means is that they have the truth to tell, but are going to do it in a derogatory way.

In this case, your frustration comes straight though, and being in the real estate business that is understandable. I have written emails with a similar level of frustration, and it does seem to help to blow off some steam.

Since you asked for opinions, what I do is then decide if I want the business or not. If I don’t, then I write a very short reply letting them know I cannot accept the business. I am not blunt or derogatory, because at this point I don’t care any more.

If I want the business I write a letter similar to the flu edits, but I usually start over. I then write a positive but firm letter with the intent of persuading them to do the right thing and winning the business for myself.

For example,

Dear xxxx,

We would like to represent your property, but in my professional opinion some major changes would be required in maintenance and marketing.

The property is receiving xxx views but no further contact. This occurs when the presentation is poor and the asking price is high.

The specific maintenance items that need to be addressed are:
. paint
. dogs
. etc…

Based on your comps, the recommended selling price is: xxxx

Again, we would like to represent you in the sale of your property, but unless these items are addressed we will be unable to do so.

Love,

urbanrealtor

(not sure about the love)

[bob2007]

Lets say you are 100% correct on all the issues (and it sounds like you are from your argument).

Whenever someone prefaces something with “am I too blunt”, what it usually means is that they have the truth to tell, but are going to do it in a derogatory way.

In this case, your frustration comes straight though, and being in the real estate business that is understandable. I have written emails with a similar level of frustration, and it does seem to help to blow off some steam.

Since you asked for opinions, what I do is then decide if I want the business or not. If I don’t, then I write a very short reply letting them know I cannot accept the business. I am not blunt or derogatory, because at this point I don’t care any more.

If I want the business I write a letter similar to the flu edits, but I usually start over. I then write a positive but firm letter with the intent of persuading them to do the right thing and winning the business for myself.

For example,

Dear xxxx,

We would like to represent your property, but in my professional opinion some major changes would be required in maintenance and marketing.

The property is receiving xxx views but no further contact. This occurs when the presentation is poor and the asking price is high.

The specific maintenance items that need to be addressed are:
. paint
. dogs
. etc…

Based on your comps, the recommended selling price is: xxxx

Again, we would like to represent you in the sale of your property, but unless these items are addressed we will be unable to do so.

Love,

urbanrealtor

(not sure about the love)

[bob2007]

I went out looking at 5 series last weekend, through the costco program they were about $500 to $650 over invoice, Audi was $650 over invoice. I though everyone had to be at the $500 mark, but there appears to be some maneuvering going on. Not to mention that “invoice” and “dealer cost” are vastly different.

I drove a 2008 535i as well. I might be the only one that feels this way, but in my opinion the 2008 drove better than the 2011 535i or 550i. The 2011’s felt more disconnected from the road and had a soggy/floating feeling in the front end. I know, its the opposite of all the reviews….

But, the newer electronics were much better.

[bob2007]

I went out looking at 5 series last weekend, through the costco program they were about $500 to $650 over invoice, Audi was $650 over invoice. I though everyone had to be at the $500 mark, but there appears to be some maneuvering going on. Not to mention that “invoice” and “dealer cost” are vastly different.

I drove a 2008 535i as well. I might be the only one that feels this way, but in my opinion the 2008 drove better than the 2011 535i or 550i. The 2011’s felt more disconnected from the road and had a soggy/floating feeling in the front end. I know, its the opposite of all the reviews….

But, the newer electronics were much better.

[bob2007]

I went out looking at 5 series last weekend, through the costco program they were about $500 to $650 over invoice, Audi was $650 over invoice. I though everyone had to be at the $500 mark, but there appears to be some maneuvering going on. Not to mention that “invoice” and “dealer cost” are vastly different.

I drove a 2008 535i as well. I might be the only one that feels this way, but in my opinion the 2008 drove better than the 2011 535i or 550i. The 2011’s felt more disconnected from the road and had a soggy/floating feeling in the front end. I know, its the opposite of all the reviews….

But, the newer electronics were much better.

[bob2007]

I went out looking at 5 series last weekend, through the costco program they were about $500 to $650 over invoice, Audi was $650 over invoice. I though everyone had to be at the $500 mark, but there appears to be some maneuvering going on. Not to mention that “invoice” and “dealer cost” are vastly different.

I drove a 2008 535i as well. I might be the only one that feels this way, but in my opinion the 2008 drove better than the 2011 535i or 550i. The 2011’s felt more disconnected from the road and had a soggy/floating feeling in the front end. I know, its the opposite of all the reviews….

But, the newer electronics were much better.

[bob2007]

I went out looking at 5 series last weekend, through the costco program they were about $500 to $650 over invoice, Audi was $650 over invoice. I though everyone had to be at the $500 mark, but there appears to be some maneuvering going on. Not to mention that “invoice” and “dealer cost” are vastly different.

I drove a 2008 535i as well. I might be the only one that feels this way, but in my opinion the 2008 drove better than the 2011 535i or 550i. The 2011’s felt more disconnected from the road and had a soggy/floating feeling in the front end. I know, its the opposite of all the reviews….

But, the newer electronics were much better.

[bob2007]

I am not defending AT&T. I have an iphone, and converage is not good.

That said, when I consider purchasing anything with a subscription, I realize that the company’s business model is based on subscription payments. If its not reasonable I don’t do it. Anyone who tries to work around a contract of that complexity for a small amount of money is doomed to be frustrated. The potential to save $80 can’t be worth the wait on the phone, let alone the days of frustration you must be going through. While the company has a lot of faults, I can’t agree with you on the contract issue.

[bob2007]

I am not defending AT&T. I have an iphone, and converage is not good.

That said, when I consider purchasing anything with a subscription, I realize that the company’s business model is based on subscription payments. If its not reasonable I don’t do it. Anyone who tries to work around a contract of that complexity for a small amount of money is doomed to be frustrated. The potential to save $80 can’t be worth the wait on the phone, let alone the days of frustration you must be going through. While the company has a lot of faults, I can’t agree with you on the contract issue.

[bob2007]

I am not defending AT&T. I have an iphone, and converage is not good.

That said, when I consider purchasing anything with a subscription, I realize that the company’s business model is based on subscription payments. If its not reasonable I don’t do it. Anyone who tries to work around a contract of that complexity for a small amount of money is doomed to be frustrated. The potential to save $80 can’t be worth the wait on the phone, let alone the days of frustration you must be going through. While the company has a lot of faults, I can’t agree with you on the contract issue.

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