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I don’t think the fire/police are overpaid, I just question whether or not it is reasonable for them to retire with a lifelong pension at 53 when the rest of us working schlubs are expected to work until we drop since our 401Ks keep getting decimated by market crashes every decade or so. Life expectancies are going up — maybe 60 would be a better retirement age for fire&police personnel?

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I don’t think the fire/police are overpaid, I just question whether or not it is reasonable for them to retire with a lifelong pension at 53 when the rest of us working schlubs are expected to work until we drop since our 401Ks keep getting decimated by market crashes every decade or so. Life expectancies are going up — maybe 60 would be a better retirement age for fire&police personnel?

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The average non police life expectency for males in the us is in the high 70’s, police life expectancy is between 53 and 66 depending on the study (various studies for different departments, some including less traditonal “cops” like park rangers, federal agents, marshals, etc. but the best scenario is 66), I imagine fire is similar. For the boys and girls who strap it on and head into the actual fires or fights, they will live only into their fifties, so do you really envy them now?

Ummmm I don’t think this is the right website to be using the statistical mean as the basis for your argument 🙂

Certainly average life expectancy is lower among these groups, but I’d wager that the standard deviation in life expectancy is much higher than in the general population due to the dangerous and stressful nature of the work. More low samples due to on-the-job deaths and the mean is of course lowered. That doesn’t necessarily mean that a 60 year old retired firefighter is less likely to make it to 75.

I’m just sayin’…

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The average non police life expectency for males in the us is in the high 70’s, police life expectancy is between 53 and 66 depending on the study (various studies for different departments, some including less traditonal “cops” like park rangers, federal agents, marshals, etc. but the best scenario is 66), I imagine fire is similar. For the boys and girls who strap it on and head into the actual fires or fights, they will live only into their fifties, so do you really envy them now?

Ummmm I don’t think this is the right website to be using the statistical mean as the basis for your argument 🙂

Certainly average life expectancy is lower among these groups, but I’d wager that the standard deviation in life expectancy is much higher than in the general population due to the dangerous and stressful nature of the work. More low samples due to on-the-job deaths and the mean is of course lowered. That doesn’t necessarily mean that a 60 year old retired firefighter is less likely to make it to 75.

I’m just sayin’…

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The average non police life expectency for males in the us is in the high 70’s, police life expectancy is between 53 and 66 depending on the study (various studies for different departments, some including less traditonal “cops” like park rangers, federal agents, marshals, etc. but the best scenario is 66), I imagine fire is similar. For the boys and girls who strap it on and head into the actual fires or fights, they will live only into their fifties, so do you really envy them now?

Ummmm I don’t think this is the right website to be using the statistical mean as the basis for your argument 🙂

Certainly average life expectancy is lower among these groups, but I’d wager that the standard deviation in life expectancy is much higher than in the general population due to the dangerous and stressful nature of the work. More low samples due to on-the-job deaths and the mean is of course lowered. That doesn’t necessarily mean that a 60 year old retired firefighter is less likely to make it to 75.

I’m just sayin’…

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The average non police life expectency for males in the us is in the high 70’s, police life expectancy is between 53 and 66 depending on the study (various studies for different departments, some including less traditonal “cops” like park rangers, federal agents, marshals, etc. but the best scenario is 66), I imagine fire is similar. For the boys and girls who strap it on and head into the actual fires or fights, they will live only into their fifties, so do you really envy them now?

Ummmm I don’t think this is the right website to be using the statistical mean as the basis for your argument 🙂

Certainly average life expectancy is lower among these groups, but I’d wager that the standard deviation in life expectancy is much higher than in the general population due to the dangerous and stressful nature of the work. More low samples due to on-the-job deaths and the mean is of course lowered. That doesn’t necessarily mean that a 60 year old retired firefighter is less likely to make it to 75.

I’m just sayin’…

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The average non police life expectency for males in the us is in the high 70’s, police life expectancy is between 53 and 66 depending on the study (various studies for different departments, some including less traditonal “cops” like park rangers, federal agents, marshals, etc. but the best scenario is 66), I imagine fire is similar. For the boys and girls who strap it on and head into the actual fires or fights, they will live only into their fifties, so do you really envy them now?

Ummmm I don’t think this is the right website to be using the statistical mean as the basis for your argument 🙂

Certainly average life expectancy is lower among these groups, but I’d wager that the standard deviation in life expectancy is much higher than in the general population due to the dangerous and stressful nature of the work. More low samples due to on-the-job deaths and the mean is of course lowered. That doesn’t necessarily mean that a 60 year old retired firefighter is less likely to make it to 75.

I’m just sayin’…

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I guess I don’t really have a problem with good salaries and pensions for police and firefighters, but retiring at 53? Come on! For those of us in the private sector who have our retirement in the markets, there is no way we’re ever going to be able to retire at at even 65 and lots of us are going to work until we drop. I would like to see fire and police chiefs make it until at least 60 before they can retire.

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I guess I don’t really have a problem with good salaries and pensions for police and firefighters, but retiring at 53? Come on! For those of us in the private sector who have our retirement in the markets, there is no way we’re ever going to be able to retire at at even 65 and lots of us are going to work until we drop. I would like to see fire and police chiefs make it until at least 60 before they can retire.

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I guess I don’t really have a problem with good salaries and pensions for police and firefighters, but retiring at 53? Come on! For those of us in the private sector who have our retirement in the markets, there is no way we’re ever going to be able to retire at at even 65 and lots of us are going to work until we drop. I would like to see fire and police chiefs make it until at least 60 before they can retire.

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I guess I don’t really have a problem with good salaries and pensions for police and firefighters, but retiring at 53? Come on! For those of us in the private sector who have our retirement in the markets, there is no way we’re ever going to be able to retire at at even 65 and lots of us are going to work until we drop. I would like to see fire and police chiefs make it until at least 60 before they can retire.

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I guess I don’t really have a problem with good salaries and pensions for police and firefighters, but retiring at 53? Come on! For those of us in the private sector who have our retirement in the markets, there is no way we’re ever going to be able to retire at at even 65 and lots of us are going to work until we drop. I would like to see fire and police chiefs make it until at least 60 before they can retire.

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People aren’t buying cars here in San Diego because they are too busy buying $600K houses in Carmel Valley. Once they get moved in I’m sure they’ll all get back to buying new BMWs and Lexii.

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People aren’t buying cars here in San Diego because they are too busy buying $600K houses in Carmel Valley. Once they get moved in I’m sure they’ll all get back to buying new BMWs and Lexii.

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People aren’t buying cars here in San Diego because they are too busy buying $600K houses in Carmel Valley. Once they get moved in I’m sure they’ll all get back to buying new BMWs and Lexii.

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