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Participant[quote=AN]Yes all of north county can be considered as bedroom community. I’m not denying that they are bedroom communities. What I was trying to say is that PQ is not a lower middle class area. I guess they were 30 years ago, but they no longer are. You might go to dt a lot, I rarely do. However, I do go to the beach a lot. Also, in my profession, there are not that many jobs down there. So, Chula is way too far for most who work up here.
SD is not like your typical east coast cities where most of the jobs are in downtown. Most of the high paying jobs are up here. I see Chula Vista diversity in housing stock is like Escondido. I would have loved to get a house with 1/2 acre lot, however, I won’t sacrifice commute time for it. I’m a commute snob, so the furthest I’ll tolerate is 15 minutes door to door, regardless of traffic. I used to live 3 blocks away from work.[/quote]
AN, with the advent of the MR bonds, PQ went from “no-man’s land” to a very respectable ‘burb. I wouldn’t, by any stretch call it, “upper middle-class” but it is solidly middle-class today (exc. for the 4 sq. bl. of “Section 8.”) I don’t know much about the demographics, but I would venture it is probably quite a younger demographic than 91910. I have NO IDEA why some of these flimisily-built ’70’s or early ’80’s houses are fetching in the 400’s in PQ today, though. They are SO NOT WORTH IT!!
Yes, AN, I too, am a “commute snob” and have lived from 1 block to 16 miles from work. I am currently located exactly 10 miles from dtn. SD which is 18-23 minutes on wkdays and 11-15 mins. on wknds. I have never lived ANYWHERE in SD that was freeway dependent and never will. I agree about the commute from CV. I have neighbors on my street who attend UCSD. It takes them almost an hour to get up there and get parked in the morning rush. We also have bus lines (1/2 bl. either way) every 15 mins., headed for the trolley, which is one mile. This is another benefit that residents in the north inland areas don’t have access to. Even though I typically drive, it increases my options.
Participant[quote=AN]Yes all of north county can be considered as bedroom community. I’m not denying that they are bedroom communities. What I was trying to say is that PQ is not a lower middle class area. I guess they were 30 years ago, but they no longer are. You might go to dt a lot, I rarely do. However, I do go to the beach a lot. Also, in my profession, there are not that many jobs down there. So, Chula is way too far for most who work up here.
SD is not like your typical east coast cities where most of the jobs are in downtown. Most of the high paying jobs are up here. I see Chula Vista diversity in housing stock is like Escondido. I would have loved to get a house with 1/2 acre lot, however, I won’t sacrifice commute time for it. I’m a commute snob, so the furthest I’ll tolerate is 15 minutes door to door, regardless of traffic. I used to live 3 blocks away from work.[/quote]
AN, with the advent of the MR bonds, PQ went from “no-man’s land” to a very respectable ‘burb. I wouldn’t, by any stretch call it, “upper middle-class” but it is solidly middle-class today (exc. for the 4 sq. bl. of “Section 8.”) I don’t know much about the demographics, but I would venture it is probably quite a younger demographic than 91910. I have NO IDEA why some of these flimisily-built ’70’s or early ’80’s houses are fetching in the 400’s in PQ today, though. They are SO NOT WORTH IT!!
Yes, AN, I too, am a “commute snob” and have lived from 1 block to 16 miles from work. I am currently located exactly 10 miles from dtn. SD which is 18-23 minutes on wkdays and 11-15 mins. on wknds. I have never lived ANYWHERE in SD that was freeway dependent and never will. I agree about the commute from CV. I have neighbors on my street who attend UCSD. It takes them almost an hour to get up there and get parked in the morning rush. We also have bus lines (1/2 bl. either way) every 15 mins., headed for the trolley, which is one mile. This is another benefit that residents in the north inland areas don’t have access to. Even though I typically drive, it increases my options.
ParticipantAN, my frame of reference for my comments on PQ are from nearly 30 years ago. I myself have not been off the Carmel Mtn. exit since 1982.
My frame of reference for jobs is dtn. SD and, to a lesser extent, Mission Valley and Kearny Mesa. In my biz, dtn. SD has the most jobs. My coworkers in dtn. SD in the early ’80’s who grew up in SD were raising families then. What they REALLY wanted was to buy a place in Talmadge Park, College, Mission Hills or wherever their families and old stomping ground was, but most of the existing affordable properties were not much more than 1500 SF. The interest rate was high then and newer development in what were then bedrooms (MM & PQ) were offering more SF and interest-rate buy-downs. Some DID end up buying in PQ but it was a hardship for them to get dtn. every morning on time. There were less fwy. exits back then. The Poway Rd. exit was jammed with cars and it was at least 8 miles of nothing to get from I-15 to Poway.
AN, Mira Mesa, PQ, RB and later CV were ANNEXATIONS to SD. Thus, they were not contiguous and there were no roads going into SD, thus completely and utterly freeway dependent (one way in and out). NAS MIRAMAR was in the way. Black Mtn. and Mercy Rds. did not come through until much later. I have two (thin) Thomas Guides from the ’70’s that tell the story. Thus, these communities were “bedroom” communities. Now, Ramona and Valley Center would probably be called “bedrooms” of SD and PQ is merely a ‘burb.
The Mello-Roos Development Bonds were introduced about 1987. This put the annexed areas “on the map” so to speak. With the MR $$, police and fire substations, libraries and schools were built, causing these annexed communities to be self-contained. Before this, these communities contracted with law enforcement and fire agencies who had to travel to serve them.
I know there are many high-tech jobs in SV and the Golden Triangle now, so these annexed communities are more attractive to persons working in that field.
I helped a friend remove crunchy “accoustical ceiling” and paint, hang blinds and clean up landscaping in his two investment properties in MM back in 1983. They were near Camino Ruiz on “zodiac” streets. Neither of the properties had walls where I thought there should be one (’70’s “open floor plan” – LOL). Both were one story but the rooms just ran into one another and the only way you could tell you were entering another room was by the change in floor covering, i.e. carpet to vinyl. The kitchens were spartan and cabinets very cheap, as were the interior and closet doors. There was very little attic with which to store items. The orig. developments of MM and PQ were built for Navy and blue collar personnel who worked in the trades or at Miramar. Miramar road is still lined today with trades businesses as a testimony to this.
As to Chula, 91910 is very diverse in its housing stock, but for the most part, the structures are VERY well-built and situated on generous lots. Yes, there are some Section 8 apts. but in very small complexes (4-12 units). 91911 has larger section 8 complexes, up to 120 units. 91911, 91913, 91914 and 91915 are ALL annexations to CV. These zips, for the most part, are more homogenous in their housing styles. 92154 (south of Chula) was also annexed into SD and provided with City services in 1977. “Otay Mesa” area is NOT contiguous to SD in that you have to pass thru CV to get to it.
What can be said for NC 91950 (5 mi. from dtn. SD) and all points to the US border (prev. mentioned) is that we ARE “metropolitan” in the sense that we, in South Bay, can reach downtown and Mission Valley at least 15 different ways without benefit of a freeway. So, if the 5 and 805 are clogged, we can jump right off to many alternatives. The same CANNOT be said of annexations to SD NORTH of Miramar. For that reason, people living in those communities, technicality or no, are still situated in a far-flung ‘burb or former “bedroom,” IMO, where the lifestyle is NOT in any way comparable of that of the core of SD. Whether you feel it is better or worse is, of course, in the eye of the beholder 🙂
ParticipantAN, my frame of reference for my comments on PQ are from nearly 30 years ago. I myself have not been off the Carmel Mtn. exit since 1982.
My frame of reference for jobs is dtn. SD and, to a lesser extent, Mission Valley and Kearny Mesa. In my biz, dtn. SD has the most jobs. My coworkers in dtn. SD in the early ’80’s who grew up in SD were raising families then. What they REALLY wanted was to buy a place in Talmadge Park, College, Mission Hills or wherever their families and old stomping ground was, but most of the existing affordable properties were not much more than 1500 SF. The interest rate was high then and newer development in what were then bedrooms (MM & PQ) were offering more SF and interest-rate buy-downs. Some DID end up buying in PQ but it was a hardship for them to get dtn. every morning on time. There were less fwy. exits back then. The Poway Rd. exit was jammed with cars and it was at least 8 miles of nothing to get from I-15 to Poway.
AN, Mira Mesa, PQ, RB and later CV were ANNEXATIONS to SD. Thus, they were not contiguous and there were no roads going into SD, thus completely and utterly freeway dependent (one way in and out). NAS MIRAMAR was in the way. Black Mtn. and Mercy Rds. did not come through until much later. I have two (thin) Thomas Guides from the ’70’s that tell the story. Thus, these communities were “bedroom” communities. Now, Ramona and Valley Center would probably be called “bedrooms” of SD and PQ is merely a ‘burb.
The Mello-Roos Development Bonds were introduced about 1987. This put the annexed areas “on the map” so to speak. With the MR $$, police and fire substations, libraries and schools were built, causing these annexed communities to be self-contained. Before this, these communities contracted with law enforcement and fire agencies who had to travel to serve them.
I know there are many high-tech jobs in SV and the Golden Triangle now, so these annexed communities are more attractive to persons working in that field.
I helped a friend remove crunchy “accoustical ceiling” and paint, hang blinds and clean up landscaping in his two investment properties in MM back in 1983. They were near Camino Ruiz on “zodiac” streets. Neither of the properties had walls where I thought there should be one (’70’s “open floor plan” – LOL). Both were one story but the rooms just ran into one another and the only way you could tell you were entering another room was by the change in floor covering, i.e. carpet to vinyl. The kitchens were spartan and cabinets very cheap, as were the interior and closet doors. There was very little attic with which to store items. The orig. developments of MM and PQ were built for Navy and blue collar personnel who worked in the trades or at Miramar. Miramar road is still lined today with trades businesses as a testimony to this.
As to Chula, 91910 is very diverse in its housing stock, but for the most part, the structures are VERY well-built and situated on generous lots. Yes, there are some Section 8 apts. but in very small complexes (4-12 units). 91911 has larger section 8 complexes, up to 120 units. 91911, 91913, 91914 and 91915 are ALL annexations to CV. These zips, for the most part, are more homogenous in their housing styles. 92154 (south of Chula) was also annexed into SD and provided with City services in 1977. “Otay Mesa” area is NOT contiguous to SD in that you have to pass thru CV to get to it.
What can be said for NC 91950 (5 mi. from dtn. SD) and all points to the US border (prev. mentioned) is that we ARE “metropolitan” in the sense that we, in South Bay, can reach downtown and Mission Valley at least 15 different ways without benefit of a freeway. So, if the 5 and 805 are clogged, we can jump right off to many alternatives. The same CANNOT be said of annexations to SD NORTH of Miramar. For that reason, people living in those communities, technicality or no, are still situated in a far-flung ‘burb or former “bedroom,” IMO, where the lifestyle is NOT in any way comparable of that of the core of SD. Whether you feel it is better or worse is, of course, in the eye of the beholder 🙂
ParticipantAN, my frame of reference for my comments on PQ are from nearly 30 years ago. I myself have not been off the Carmel Mtn. exit since 1982.
My frame of reference for jobs is dtn. SD and, to a lesser extent, Mission Valley and Kearny Mesa. In my biz, dtn. SD has the most jobs. My coworkers in dtn. SD in the early ’80’s who grew up in SD were raising families then. What they REALLY wanted was to buy a place in Talmadge Park, College, Mission Hills or wherever their families and old stomping ground was, but most of the existing affordable properties were not much more than 1500 SF. The interest rate was high then and newer development in what were then bedrooms (MM & PQ) were offering more SF and interest-rate buy-downs. Some DID end up buying in PQ but it was a hardship for them to get dtn. every morning on time. There were less fwy. exits back then. The Poway Rd. exit was jammed with cars and it was at least 8 miles of nothing to get from I-15 to Poway.
AN, Mira Mesa, PQ, RB and later CV were ANNEXATIONS to SD. Thus, they were not contiguous and there were no roads going into SD, thus completely and utterly freeway dependent (one way in and out). NAS MIRAMAR was in the way. Black Mtn. and Mercy Rds. did not come through until much later. I have two (thin) Thomas Guides from the ’70’s that tell the story. Thus, these communities were “bedroom” communities. Now, Ramona and Valley Center would probably be called “bedrooms” of SD and PQ is merely a ‘burb.
The Mello-Roos Development Bonds were introduced about 1987. This put the annexed areas “on the map” so to speak. With the MR $$, police and fire substations, libraries and schools were built, causing these annexed communities to be self-contained. Before this, these communities contracted with law enforcement and fire agencies who had to travel to serve them.
I know there are many high-tech jobs in SV and the Golden Triangle now, so these annexed communities are more attractive to persons working in that field.
I helped a friend remove crunchy “accoustical ceiling” and paint, hang blinds and clean up landscaping in his two investment properties in MM back in 1983. They were near Camino Ruiz on “zodiac” streets. Neither of the properties had walls where I thought there should be one (’70’s “open floor plan” – LOL). Both were one story but the rooms just ran into one another and the only way you could tell you were entering another room was by the change in floor covering, i.e. carpet to vinyl. The kitchens were spartan and cabinets very cheap, as were the interior and closet doors. There was very little attic with which to store items. The orig. developments of MM and PQ were built for Navy and blue collar personnel who worked in the trades or at Miramar. Miramar road is still lined today with trades businesses as a testimony to this.
As to Chula, 91910 is very diverse in its housing stock, but for the most part, the structures are VERY well-built and situated on generous lots. Yes, there are some Section 8 apts. but in very small complexes (4-12 units). 91911 has larger section 8 complexes, up to 120 units. 91911, 91913, 91914 and 91915 are ALL annexations to CV. These zips, for the most part, are more homogenous in their housing styles. 92154 (south of Chula) was also annexed into SD and provided with City services in 1977. “Otay Mesa” area is NOT contiguous to SD in that you have to pass thru CV to get to it.
What can be said for NC 91950 (5 mi. from dtn. SD) and all points to the US border (prev. mentioned) is that we ARE “metropolitan” in the sense that we, in South Bay, can reach downtown and Mission Valley at least 15 different ways without benefit of a freeway. So, if the 5 and 805 are clogged, we can jump right off to many alternatives. The same CANNOT be said of annexations to SD NORTH of Miramar. For that reason, people living in those communities, technicality or no, are still situated in a far-flung ‘burb or former “bedroom,” IMO, where the lifestyle is NOT in any way comparable of that of the core of SD. Whether you feel it is better or worse is, of course, in the eye of the beholder 🙂
ParticipantAN, my frame of reference for my comments on PQ are from nearly 30 years ago. I myself have not been off the Carmel Mtn. exit since 1982.
My frame of reference for jobs is dtn. SD and, to a lesser extent, Mission Valley and Kearny Mesa. In my biz, dtn. SD has the most jobs. My coworkers in dtn. SD in the early ’80’s who grew up in SD were raising families then. What they REALLY wanted was to buy a place in Talmadge Park, College, Mission Hills or wherever their families and old stomping ground was, but most of the existing affordable properties were not much more than 1500 SF. The interest rate was high then and newer development in what were then bedrooms (MM & PQ) were offering more SF and interest-rate buy-downs. Some DID end up buying in PQ but it was a hardship for them to get dtn. every morning on time. There were less fwy. exits back then. The Poway Rd. exit was jammed with cars and it was at least 8 miles of nothing to get from I-15 to Poway.
AN, Mira Mesa, PQ, RB and later CV were ANNEXATIONS to SD. Thus, they were not contiguous and there were no roads going into SD, thus completely and utterly freeway dependent (one way in and out). NAS MIRAMAR was in the way. Black Mtn. and Mercy Rds. did not come through until much later. I have two (thin) Thomas Guides from the ’70’s that tell the story. Thus, these communities were “bedroom” communities. Now, Ramona and Valley Center would probably be called “bedrooms” of SD and PQ is merely a ‘burb.
The Mello-Roos Development Bonds were introduced about 1987. This put the annexed areas “on the map” so to speak. With the MR $$, police and fire substations, libraries and schools were built, causing these annexed communities to be self-contained. Before this, these communities contracted with law enforcement and fire agencies who had to travel to serve them.
I know there are many high-tech jobs in SV and the Golden Triangle now, so these annexed communities are more attractive to persons working in that field.
I helped a friend remove crunchy “accoustical ceiling” and paint, hang blinds and clean up landscaping in his two investment properties in MM back in 1983. They were near Camino Ruiz on “zodiac” streets. Neither of the properties had walls where I thought there should be one (’70’s “open floor plan” – LOL). Both were one story but the rooms just ran into one another and the only way you could tell you were entering another room was by the change in floor covering, i.e. carpet to vinyl. The kitchens were spartan and cabinets very cheap, as were the interior and closet doors. There was very little attic with which to store items. The orig. developments of MM and PQ were built for Navy and blue collar personnel who worked in the trades or at Miramar. Miramar road is still lined today with trades businesses as a testimony to this.
As to Chula, 91910 is very diverse in its housing stock, but for the most part, the structures are VERY well-built and situated on generous lots. Yes, there are some Section 8 apts. but in very small complexes (4-12 units). 91911 has larger section 8 complexes, up to 120 units. 91911, 91913, 91914 and 91915 are ALL annexations to CV. These zips, for the most part, are more homogenous in their housing styles. 92154 (south of Chula) was also annexed into SD and provided with City services in 1977. “Otay Mesa” area is NOT contiguous to SD in that you have to pass thru CV to get to it.
What can be said for NC 91950 (5 mi. from dtn. SD) and all points to the US border (prev. mentioned) is that we ARE “metropolitan” in the sense that we, in South Bay, can reach downtown and Mission Valley at least 15 different ways without benefit of a freeway. So, if the 5 and 805 are clogged, we can jump right off to many alternatives. The same CANNOT be said of annexations to SD NORTH of Miramar. For that reason, people living in those communities, technicality or no, are still situated in a far-flung ‘burb or former “bedroom,” IMO, where the lifestyle is NOT in any way comparable of that of the core of SD. Whether you feel it is better or worse is, of course, in the eye of the beholder 🙂
ParticipantAN, my frame of reference for my comments on PQ are from nearly 30 years ago. I myself have not been off the Carmel Mtn. exit since 1982.
My frame of reference for jobs is dtn. SD and, to a lesser extent, Mission Valley and Kearny Mesa. In my biz, dtn. SD has the most jobs. My coworkers in dtn. SD in the early ’80’s who grew up in SD were raising families then. What they REALLY wanted was to buy a place in Talmadge Park, College, Mission Hills or wherever their families and old stomping ground was, but most of the existing affordable properties were not much more than 1500 SF. The interest rate was high then and newer development in what were then bedrooms (MM & PQ) were offering more SF and interest-rate buy-downs. Some DID end up buying in PQ but it was a hardship for them to get dtn. every morning on time. There were less fwy. exits back then. The Poway Rd. exit was jammed with cars and it was at least 8 miles of nothing to get from I-15 to Poway.
AN, Mira Mesa, PQ, RB and later CV were ANNEXATIONS to SD. Thus, they were not contiguous and there were no roads going into SD, thus completely and utterly freeway dependent (one way in and out). NAS MIRAMAR was in the way. Black Mtn. and Mercy Rds. did not come through until much later. I have two (thin) Thomas Guides from the ’70’s that tell the story. Thus, these communities were “bedroom” communities. Now, Ramona and Valley Center would probably be called “bedrooms” of SD and PQ is merely a ‘burb.
The Mello-Roos Development Bonds were introduced about 1987. This put the annexed areas “on the map” so to speak. With the MR $$, police and fire substations, libraries and schools were built, causing these annexed communities to be self-contained. Before this, these communities contracted with law enforcement and fire agencies who had to travel to serve them.
I know there are many high-tech jobs in SV and the Golden Triangle now, so these annexed communities are more attractive to persons working in that field.
I helped a friend remove crunchy “accoustical ceiling” and paint, hang blinds and clean up landscaping in his two investment properties in MM back in 1983. They were near Camino Ruiz on “zodiac” streets. Neither of the properties had walls where I thought there should be one (’70’s “open floor plan” – LOL). Both were one story but the rooms just ran into one another and the only way you could tell you were entering another room was by the change in floor covering, i.e. carpet to vinyl. The kitchens were spartan and cabinets very cheap, as were the interior and closet doors. There was very little attic with which to store items. The orig. developments of MM and PQ were built for Navy and blue collar personnel who worked in the trades or at Miramar. Miramar road is still lined today with trades businesses as a testimony to this.
As to Chula, 91910 is very diverse in its housing stock, but for the most part, the structures are VERY well-built and situated on generous lots. Yes, there are some Section 8 apts. but in very small complexes (4-12 units). 91911 has larger section 8 complexes, up to 120 units. 91911, 91913, 91914 and 91915 are ALL annexations to CV. These zips, for the most part, are more homogenous in their housing styles. 92154 (south of Chula) was also annexed into SD and provided with City services in 1977. “Otay Mesa” area is NOT contiguous to SD in that you have to pass thru CV to get to it.
What can be said for NC 91950 (5 mi. from dtn. SD) and all points to the US border (prev. mentioned) is that we ARE “metropolitan” in the sense that we, in South Bay, can reach downtown and Mission Valley at least 15 different ways without benefit of a freeway. So, if the 5 and 805 are clogged, we can jump right off to many alternatives. The same CANNOT be said of annexations to SD NORTH of Miramar. For that reason, people living in those communities, technicality or no, are still situated in a far-flung ‘burb or former “bedroom,” IMO, where the lifestyle is NOT in any way comparable of that of the core of SD. Whether you feel it is better or worse is, of course, in the eye of the beholder 🙂
ParticipantJust viewed the pics. Orig. alum. sliders and orig. (or replaced) shingle roof (not tile). No backyard landscaping.
Sorry, AN, I still don’t see the “draw” in any of those categories. No offense to anyone, but PQ used to be known among San Diegans as a “lower middle-class bedroom.”
SDRealtor, I’m sorry to hear the flippers of this property paid too much at the courthouse steps, but this isn’t today’s buyer’s problem, IMO.
See this educational and enlightening page:
http://members.cox.net/mkpl2/hist/sdhist.html
I distinctly remember driving through that area as late as July ’79 and being diverted to Hwy 395. I remember ALL of RB being within view of the highway. Wasn’t it ’79 or ’80 that the I-15 finally came thru PQ?
Okay, bring on the Chula Juana jokes. We have a standing joke around here amongst RE professionals about certain high-up streets on either side of the I-805, which first came roaring thru here in 1984. Nacion and Fifield are great examples (on each side). The properties on these (and a few other) streets were immediately affected by what is known in RE parlance as “economic obsolescence.”
andymajumder, indulge me here and try this exercise this week. Take your folding chair and a large mug of coffee to the backyard of this place between 6:30 and 7:00 a.m. on a weekday (during commute on that side of hwy). Imagine you were sitting in your hot tub right after work. This is your environment 😉
ParticipantJust viewed the pics. Orig. alum. sliders and orig. (or replaced) shingle roof (not tile). No backyard landscaping.
Sorry, AN, I still don’t see the “draw” in any of those categories. No offense to anyone, but PQ used to be known among San Diegans as a “lower middle-class bedroom.”
SDRealtor, I’m sorry to hear the flippers of this property paid too much at the courthouse steps, but this isn’t today’s buyer’s problem, IMO.
See this educational and enlightening page:
http://members.cox.net/mkpl2/hist/sdhist.html
I distinctly remember driving through that area as late as July ’79 and being diverted to Hwy 395. I remember ALL of RB being within view of the highway. Wasn’t it ’79 or ’80 that the I-15 finally came thru PQ?
Okay, bring on the Chula Juana jokes. We have a standing joke around here amongst RE professionals about certain high-up streets on either side of the I-805, which first came roaring thru here in 1984. Nacion and Fifield are great examples (on each side). The properties on these (and a few other) streets were immediately affected by what is known in RE parlance as “economic obsolescence.”
andymajumder, indulge me here and try this exercise this week. Take your folding chair and a large mug of coffee to the backyard of this place between 6:30 and 7:00 a.m. on a weekday (during commute on that side of hwy). Imagine you were sitting in your hot tub right after work. This is your environment 😉
ParticipantJust viewed the pics. Orig. alum. sliders and orig. (or replaced) shingle roof (not tile). No backyard landscaping.
Sorry, AN, I still don’t see the “draw” in any of those categories. No offense to anyone, but PQ used to be known among San Diegans as a “lower middle-class bedroom.”
SDRealtor, I’m sorry to hear the flippers of this property paid too much at the courthouse steps, but this isn’t today’s buyer’s problem, IMO.
See this educational and enlightening page:
http://members.cox.net/mkpl2/hist/sdhist.html
I distinctly remember driving through that area as late as July ’79 and being diverted to Hwy 395. I remember ALL of RB being within view of the highway. Wasn’t it ’79 or ’80 that the I-15 finally came thru PQ?
Okay, bring on the Chula Juana jokes. We have a standing joke around here amongst RE professionals about certain high-up streets on either side of the I-805, which first came roaring thru here in 1984. Nacion and Fifield are great examples (on each side). The properties on these (and a few other) streets were immediately affected by what is known in RE parlance as “economic obsolescence.”
andymajumder, indulge me here and try this exercise this week. Take your folding chair and a large mug of coffee to the backyard of this place between 6:30 and 7:00 a.m. on a weekday (during commute on that side of hwy). Imagine you were sitting in your hot tub right after work. This is your environment 😉
ParticipantJust viewed the pics. Orig. alum. sliders and orig. (or replaced) shingle roof (not tile). No backyard landscaping.
Sorry, AN, I still don’t see the “draw” in any of those categories. No offense to anyone, but PQ used to be known among San Diegans as a “lower middle-class bedroom.”
SDRealtor, I’m sorry to hear the flippers of this property paid too much at the courthouse steps, but this isn’t today’s buyer’s problem, IMO.
See this educational and enlightening page:
http://members.cox.net/mkpl2/hist/sdhist.html
I distinctly remember driving through that area as late as July ’79 and being diverted to Hwy 395. I remember ALL of RB being within view of the highway. Wasn’t it ’79 or ’80 that the I-15 finally came thru PQ?
Okay, bring on the Chula Juana jokes. We have a standing joke around here amongst RE professionals about certain high-up streets on either side of the I-805, which first came roaring thru here in 1984. Nacion and Fifield are great examples (on each side). The properties on these (and a few other) streets were immediately affected by what is known in RE parlance as “economic obsolescence.”
andymajumder, indulge me here and try this exercise this week. Take your folding chair and a large mug of coffee to the backyard of this place between 6:30 and 7:00 a.m. on a weekday (during commute on that side of hwy). Imagine you were sitting in your hot tub right after work. This is your environment 😉
ParticipantJust viewed the pics. Orig. alum. sliders and orig. (or replaced) shingle roof (not tile). No backyard landscaping.
Sorry, AN, I still don’t see the “draw” in any of those categories. No offense to anyone, but PQ used to be known among San Diegans as a “lower middle-class bedroom.”
SDRealtor, I’m sorry to hear the flippers of this property paid too much at the courthouse steps, but this isn’t today’s buyer’s problem, IMO.
See this educational and enlightening page:
http://members.cox.net/mkpl2/hist/sdhist.html
I distinctly remember driving through that area as late as July ’79 and being diverted to Hwy 395. I remember ALL of RB being within view of the highway. Wasn’t it ’79 or ’80 that the I-15 finally came thru PQ?
Okay, bring on the Chula Juana jokes. We have a standing joke around here amongst RE professionals about certain high-up streets on either side of the I-805, which first came roaring thru here in 1984. Nacion and Fifield are great examples (on each side). The properties on these (and a few other) streets were immediately affected by what is known in RE parlance as “economic obsolescence.”
andymajumder, indulge me here and try this exercise this week. Take your folding chair and a large mug of coffee to the backyard of this place between 6:30 and 7:00 a.m. on a weekday (during commute on that side of hwy). Imagine you were sitting in your hot tub right after work. This is your environment 😉
ParticipantAre the (400+?) apt. units just off Carmel Mtn. exit of I-15 still Section 8? They were in the 80’s, early 90’s. Don’t know about now.
Is this cul-de-sac high up? From the map, looks like if it is, you will hear the constant hum of rubber from the fwy., day and night, unless it has double-paned windows and they are closed all year round.
andymajumder, this is NOT that big a house. Why the HUGE asking price?? Guess I’m clueless what the “draw” is here.
ParticipantAre the (400+?) apt. units just off Carmel Mtn. exit of I-15 still Section 8? They were in the 80’s, early 90’s. Don’t know about now.
Is this cul-de-sac high up? From the map, looks like if it is, you will hear the constant hum of rubber from the fwy., day and night, unless it has double-paned windows and they are closed all year round.
andymajumder, this is NOT that big a house. Why the HUGE asking price?? Guess I’m clueless what the “draw” is here.
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