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ParticipantWell, if gay marriage and interracial marriage rulings are any example, polygamy might well become legal when about 40% of people approve of the practice. That sort of large minority isn’t happening right now, except maybe in Utah where they were forced to write a ban into their original constitution.
Realize for a moment, though, that polygamy laws come from the dominant culture. We may find it distateful, but polygamy is legal in the Muslim world because their religion allows it. It used to be legal in pre-state Utah beecause their religion allowed it. I think our problem with polygamy isn’t hippie triads living in San Francisco and abusing Vaseline, but cultures where women are bred to be property.
ParticipantA key point for me is, as Mark Holmes posted early in the discussion, marriage rights are a life-changing, crucial matter for gay couples, and a preference (whether strong or weak) for the rest of us. One can oppose gay marriage, but stop well short of amending a constitution to ban it. To do otherwise is to hazard democracy becoming the proverbial two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
(Personally, I think initiative constitutional amendments are a travesty for exactly this reason)
ParticipantA key point for me is, as Mark Holmes posted early in the discussion, marriage rights are a life-changing, crucial matter for gay couples, and a preference (whether strong or weak) for the rest of us. One can oppose gay marriage, but stop well short of amending a constitution to ban it. To do otherwise is to hazard democracy becoming the proverbial two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
(Personally, I think initiative constitutional amendments are a travesty for exactly this reason)
ParticipantA key point for me is, as Mark Holmes posted early in the discussion, marriage rights are a life-changing, crucial matter for gay couples, and a preference (whether strong or weak) for the rest of us. One can oppose gay marriage, but stop well short of amending a constitution to ban it. To do otherwise is to hazard democracy becoming the proverbial two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
(Personally, I think initiative constitutional amendments are a travesty for exactly this reason)
ParticipantA key point for me is, as Mark Holmes posted early in the discussion, marriage rights are a life-changing, crucial matter for gay couples, and a preference (whether strong or weak) for the rest of us. One can oppose gay marriage, but stop well short of amending a constitution to ban it. To do otherwise is to hazard democracy becoming the proverbial two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
(Personally, I think initiative constitutional amendments are a travesty for exactly this reason)
ParticipantA key point for me is, as Mark Holmes posted early in the discussion, marriage rights are a life-changing, crucial matter for gay couples, and a preference (whether strong or weak) for the rest of us. One can oppose gay marriage, but stop well short of amending a constitution to ban it. To do otherwise is to hazard democracy becoming the proverbial two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
(Personally, I think initiative constitutional amendments are a travesty for exactly this reason)
ParticipantLikewise, my Raytheon branch in Santa Barbara has a few openings right now in Process, Product, and Systems Engr
ParticipantLikewise, my Raytheon branch in Santa Barbara has a few openings right now in Process, Product, and Systems Engr
ParticipantLikewise, my Raytheon branch in Santa Barbara has a few openings right now in Process, Product, and Systems Engr
ParticipantLikewise, my Raytheon branch in Santa Barbara has a few openings right now in Process, Product, and Systems Engr
ParticipantLikewise, my Raytheon branch in Santa Barbara has a few openings right now in Process, Product, and Systems Engr
ParticipantFearful,
I’d expect that the increase in down payment requirements takes a lot of the less educated buyers out of the game. If you have $50-100k in savings, you’ve probably put more thought into where the market is going, and whether it makes sense to wait a year. Cash in hand probably correlates reasonably well with the ability to delay gratification while prices are plummeting.
ParticipantFearful,
I’d expect that the increase in down payment requirements takes a lot of the less educated buyers out of the game. If you have $50-100k in savings, you’ve probably put more thought into where the market is going, and whether it makes sense to wait a year. Cash in hand probably correlates reasonably well with the ability to delay gratification while prices are plummeting.
ParticipantFearful,
I’d expect that the increase in down payment requirements takes a lot of the less educated buyers out of the game. If you have $50-100k in savings, you’ve probably put more thought into where the market is going, and whether it makes sense to wait a year. Cash in hand probably correlates reasonably well with the ability to delay gratification while prices are plummeting.
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