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Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantRus: I would agree with you on certain points, and disagree with you on others.
I think Carter’s appeasement of Brezhnev and the Soviet Union, and his willingness to turn a blind eye to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, as well as doing nothing while the Cubans were running riot in Angola, did tremendous damage to US prestige throughout the world, and encouraged other despots, who no longer feared America as a counterweight to the Soviet Union.
In an earlier time, Chamberlain’s appeasement of Hitler at Munich in 1938, along with France and Britain’s standing idle during the Anschluss and the later annexation of Czechoslovakia, led directly to the invasion of Poland in 1939 and WWII.
Appeasement does not work. I am not arguing for war, rather I am arguing that History is brutally unforgiving when it comes to the weak or the morally unwilling.
As to our being in front, I would argue that the UN’s involvement in places like Bosnia, Rwanda, Somalia, etc has been nothing short of disastrous. Even a morally divisive war like Vietnam is remarkable for what happened after the US left Southeast Asia, meaning the genocidal actions of the North Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge following the “liberation”.
I would never argue that the US is always right. Far from it. We have more than our share of blood on our hands, and our actions at times have been far from pure. But sometimes the alternative is not between good and bad, but bad and worse.
ParticipantRus: I would agree with you on certain points, and disagree with you on others.
I think Carter’s appeasement of Brezhnev and the Soviet Union, and his willingness to turn a blind eye to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, as well as doing nothing while the Cubans were running riot in Angola, did tremendous damage to US prestige throughout the world, and encouraged other despots, who no longer feared America as a counterweight to the Soviet Union.
In an earlier time, Chamberlain’s appeasement of Hitler at Munich in 1938, along with France and Britain’s standing idle during the Anschluss and the later annexation of Czechoslovakia, led directly to the invasion of Poland in 1939 and WWII.
Appeasement does not work. I am not arguing for war, rather I am arguing that History is brutally unforgiving when it comes to the weak or the morally unwilling.
As to our being in front, I would argue that the UN’s involvement in places like Bosnia, Rwanda, Somalia, etc has been nothing short of disastrous. Even a morally divisive war like Vietnam is remarkable for what happened after the US left Southeast Asia, meaning the genocidal actions of the North Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge following the “liberation”.
I would never argue that the US is always right. Far from it. We have more than our share of blood on our hands, and our actions at times have been far from pure. But sometimes the alternative is not between good and bad, but bad and worse.
ParticipantRus: I would agree with you on certain points, and disagree with you on others.
I think Carter’s appeasement of Brezhnev and the Soviet Union, and his willingness to turn a blind eye to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, as well as doing nothing while the Cubans were running riot in Angola, did tremendous damage to US prestige throughout the world, and encouraged other despots, who no longer feared America as a counterweight to the Soviet Union.
In an earlier time, Chamberlain’s appeasement of Hitler at Munich in 1938, along with France and Britain’s standing idle during the Anschluss and the later annexation of Czechoslovakia, led directly to the invasion of Poland in 1939 and WWII.
Appeasement does not work. I am not arguing for war, rather I am arguing that History is brutally unforgiving when it comes to the weak or the morally unwilling.
As to our being in front, I would argue that the UN’s involvement in places like Bosnia, Rwanda, Somalia, etc has been nothing short of disastrous. Even a morally divisive war like Vietnam is remarkable for what happened after the US left Southeast Asia, meaning the genocidal actions of the North Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge following the “liberation”.
I would never argue that the US is always right. Far from it. We have more than our share of blood on our hands, and our actions at times have been far from pure. But sometimes the alternative is not between good and bad, but bad and worse.
ParticipantBugs: I grew up there and have quite a few friends still there. Most of them are in Tech, and make good money, but I get the sense that the situation there is starting to deteriorate. Companies like Google will help prop the market up (take a look at home sales in Mountain View, Cupertino and Los Altos to get a sense of the “Google Effect” and the “Apple Effect”), but that can only last for so long.
Following the dot.bomb bust in 2000, I remember seeing neighborhoods in Mountain View lose 30% of their value over the next few years, so Bay Area housing is not immune.
I have been watching the San Francisco housing market (through SocketSite.com) and it is interesting to note two things: (1) The number of cancellations in downtown SF condo transactions, and (2) The slow declination of per square ft pricing of homes in the City of San Francisco proper. While these two events might signify nothing ultimately, they are indicators of a downward trend.
ParticipantBugs: I grew up there and have quite a few friends still there. Most of them are in Tech, and make good money, but I get the sense that the situation there is starting to deteriorate. Companies like Google will help prop the market up (take a look at home sales in Mountain View, Cupertino and Los Altos to get a sense of the “Google Effect” and the “Apple Effect”), but that can only last for so long.
Following the dot.bomb bust in 2000, I remember seeing neighborhoods in Mountain View lose 30% of their value over the next few years, so Bay Area housing is not immune.
I have been watching the San Francisco housing market (through SocketSite.com) and it is interesting to note two things: (1) The number of cancellations in downtown SF condo transactions, and (2) The slow declination of per square ft pricing of homes in the City of San Francisco proper. While these two events might signify nothing ultimately, they are indicators of a downward trend.
ParticipantBugs: I grew up there and have quite a few friends still there. Most of them are in Tech, and make good money, but I get the sense that the situation there is starting to deteriorate. Companies like Google will help prop the market up (take a look at home sales in Mountain View, Cupertino and Los Altos to get a sense of the “Google Effect” and the “Apple Effect”), but that can only last for so long.
Following the dot.bomb bust in 2000, I remember seeing neighborhoods in Mountain View lose 30% of their value over the next few years, so Bay Area housing is not immune.
I have been watching the San Francisco housing market (through SocketSite.com) and it is interesting to note two things: (1) The number of cancellations in downtown SF condo transactions, and (2) The slow declination of per square ft pricing of homes in the City of San Francisco proper. While these two events might signify nothing ultimately, they are indicators of a downward trend.
ParticipantBugs: I grew up there and have quite a few friends still there. Most of them are in Tech, and make good money, but I get the sense that the situation there is starting to deteriorate. Companies like Google will help prop the market up (take a look at home sales in Mountain View, Cupertino and Los Altos to get a sense of the “Google Effect” and the “Apple Effect”), but that can only last for so long.
Following the dot.bomb bust in 2000, I remember seeing neighborhoods in Mountain View lose 30% of their value over the next few years, so Bay Area housing is not immune.
I have been watching the San Francisco housing market (through SocketSite.com) and it is interesting to note two things: (1) The number of cancellations in downtown SF condo transactions, and (2) The slow declination of per square ft pricing of homes in the City of San Francisco proper. While these two events might signify nothing ultimately, they are indicators of a downward trend.
ParticipantBugs: I grew up there and have quite a few friends still there. Most of them are in Tech, and make good money, but I get the sense that the situation there is starting to deteriorate. Companies like Google will help prop the market up (take a look at home sales in Mountain View, Cupertino and Los Altos to get a sense of the “Google Effect” and the “Apple Effect”), but that can only last for so long.
Following the dot.bomb bust in 2000, I remember seeing neighborhoods in Mountain View lose 30% of their value over the next few years, so Bay Area housing is not immune.
I have been watching the San Francisco housing market (through SocketSite.com) and it is interesting to note two things: (1) The number of cancellations in downtown SF condo transactions, and (2) The slow declination of per square ft pricing of homes in the City of San Francisco proper. While these two events might signify nothing ultimately, they are indicators of a downward trend.
ParticipantRus: I wouldn’t say I was a fan of Reagan’s, rather I was supportive of his policies. I did believe that the Russians were a threat to us and the free world, a belief that is supported by Putin’s policies in present day Russia.
Following Carter’s disastrous Presidency, something had to change regarding America’s position in the world, and I think Reagan was the right guy in the right place at the right time.
As a Republican, I am very disappointed in Bush, but not surprised. I think anybody with the wherewithal to do a little research, and read a little news, would have seen what Bush was about, and well before he took office.
Ultimately, the people are responsible for those we elect, and Bush is our responsibility (those that voted for him, that is).
ParticipantRus: I wouldn’t say I was a fan of Reagan’s, rather I was supportive of his policies. I did believe that the Russians were a threat to us and the free world, a belief that is supported by Putin’s policies in present day Russia.
Following Carter’s disastrous Presidency, something had to change regarding America’s position in the world, and I think Reagan was the right guy in the right place at the right time.
As a Republican, I am very disappointed in Bush, but not surprised. I think anybody with the wherewithal to do a little research, and read a little news, would have seen what Bush was about, and well before he took office.
Ultimately, the people are responsible for those we elect, and Bush is our responsibility (those that voted for him, that is).
ParticipantRus: I wouldn’t say I was a fan of Reagan’s, rather I was supportive of his policies. I did believe that the Russians were a threat to us and the free world, a belief that is supported by Putin’s policies in present day Russia.
Following Carter’s disastrous Presidency, something had to change regarding America’s position in the world, and I think Reagan was the right guy in the right place at the right time.
As a Republican, I am very disappointed in Bush, but not surprised. I think anybody with the wherewithal to do a little research, and read a little news, would have seen what Bush was about, and well before he took office.
Ultimately, the people are responsible for those we elect, and Bush is our responsibility (those that voted for him, that is).
ParticipantRus: I wouldn’t say I was a fan of Reagan’s, rather I was supportive of his policies. I did believe that the Russians were a threat to us and the free world, a belief that is supported by Putin’s policies in present day Russia.
Following Carter’s disastrous Presidency, something had to change regarding America’s position in the world, and I think Reagan was the right guy in the right place at the right time.
As a Republican, I am very disappointed in Bush, but not surprised. I think anybody with the wherewithal to do a little research, and read a little news, would have seen what Bush was about, and well before he took office.
Ultimately, the people are responsible for those we elect, and Bush is our responsibility (those that voted for him, that is).
ParticipantRus: I wouldn’t say I was a fan of Reagan’s, rather I was supportive of his policies. I did believe that the Russians were a threat to us and the free world, a belief that is supported by Putin’s policies in present day Russia.
Following Carter’s disastrous Presidency, something had to change regarding America’s position in the world, and I think Reagan was the right guy in the right place at the right time.
As a Republican, I am very disappointed in Bush, but not surprised. I think anybody with the wherewithal to do a little research, and read a little news, would have seen what Bush was about, and well before he took office.
Ultimately, the people are responsible for those we elect, and Bush is our responsibility (those that voted for him, that is).
Participantraptorduck: Well, geez, who wouldn’t? I love Los Altos and LAH, as well as Palo Alto Hills (near the country club).
I went to Saint Francis in Mountain View (off of Miramonte) and spent a considerable amount of time in Los Altos and LAH.
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