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Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantNSR: The other adjunct to your observation, and the more ominous one in my opinion, is this: It suppresses dissent. One of the unspoken aspects of the PC movement is that it attempts to force a dialectic upon people. You cannot refer to someone as “handicapped”, rather, they are “physically challenged”. Someone is not “black”, rather, they are “African-American”.
Any deviation from this is immediately castigated, and called racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. This has the effect of suppressing free speech and expression out of fear of giving offense or being perceived as a racist, or worse.
Was the comment in question meant to suggest a return to the 1920s South and lynch mobs? Absolutely not. It was a poor choice of phrases, granted, but nothing worse than that. The immediate firestorm following shows the level of insane sensitivity now attached to any word that might possibly give offense.
It’s pathetic really. Orwell was absolutely right in his observation that controlling the language meant controlling the culture. There are certain posters here that would do well with a reading of “1984”. Big Brother loves you.
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantNSR: The other adjunct to your observation, and the more ominous one in my opinion, is this: It suppresses dissent. One of the unspoken aspects of the PC movement is that it attempts to force a dialectic upon people. You cannot refer to someone as “handicapped”, rather, they are “physically challenged”. Someone is not “black”, rather, they are “African-American”.
Any deviation from this is immediately castigated, and called racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. This has the effect of suppressing free speech and expression out of fear of giving offense or being perceived as a racist, or worse.
Was the comment in question meant to suggest a return to the 1920s South and lynch mobs? Absolutely not. It was a poor choice of phrases, granted, but nothing worse than that. The immediate firestorm following shows the level of insane sensitivity now attached to any word that might possibly give offense.
It’s pathetic really. Orwell was absolutely right in his observation that controlling the language meant controlling the culture. There are certain posters here that would do well with a reading of “1984”. Big Brother loves you.
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantNSR: The other adjunct to your observation, and the more ominous one in my opinion, is this: It suppresses dissent. One of the unspoken aspects of the PC movement is that it attempts to force a dialectic upon people. You cannot refer to someone as “handicapped”, rather, they are “physically challenged”. Someone is not “black”, rather, they are “African-American”.
Any deviation from this is immediately castigated, and called racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. This has the effect of suppressing free speech and expression out of fear of giving offense or being perceived as a racist, or worse.
Was the comment in question meant to suggest a return to the 1920s South and lynch mobs? Absolutely not. It was a poor choice of phrases, granted, but nothing worse than that. The immediate firestorm following shows the level of insane sensitivity now attached to any word that might possibly give offense.
It’s pathetic really. Orwell was absolutely right in his observation that controlling the language meant controlling the culture. There are certain posters here that would do well with a reading of “1984”. Big Brother loves you.
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantRus: For someone who pushes the idea of an American Empire so strongly, you seem to be agitating to help start one of your own.
Or maybe I’m misreading this?
I still like the coup idea. Drunkle could become Generalissimo Drunkle Dada, President For Life. I took a little artistic license with Idi Amin’s official title.
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantRus: For someone who pushes the idea of an American Empire so strongly, you seem to be agitating to help start one of your own.
Or maybe I’m misreading this?
I still like the coup idea. Drunkle could become Generalissimo Drunkle Dada, President For Life. I took a little artistic license with Idi Amin’s official title.
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantRus: For someone who pushes the idea of an American Empire so strongly, you seem to be agitating to help start one of your own.
Or maybe I’m misreading this?
I still like the coup idea. Drunkle could become Generalissimo Drunkle Dada, President For Life. I took a little artistic license with Idi Amin’s official title.
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantRus: For someone who pushes the idea of an American Empire so strongly, you seem to be agitating to help start one of your own.
Or maybe I’m misreading this?
I still like the coup idea. Drunkle could become Generalissimo Drunkle Dada, President For Life. I took a little artistic license with Idi Amin’s official title.
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantRus: For someone who pushes the idea of an American Empire so strongly, you seem to be agitating to help start one of your own.
Or maybe I’m misreading this?
I still like the coup idea. Drunkle could become Generalissimo Drunkle Dada, President For Life. I took a little artistic license with Idi Amin’s official title.
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantdrunkle: A coup d’etat is much more exciting, and will only add to your legend.
Buy a beret, a pearl handled .45, some mirrored sunglasses and a riding crop. You will also have to design and fashion an outrageous uniform replete with epaulets, medals and festooned with brightly colored piping.
I think that you and a handful of dedicated volunteers could seize (for starters) downtown Escondido, or Chula Vista, or even Del Mar (where they’re so soused in the evenings, they wouldn’t even notice). From there, you can build your revolution and head to Sacramento and thence to Washington, DC.
You would need someone to help with the propaganda posters and sloganeering, as well a media person for CNN and MTV. I think this country is ripe for revolution; why not you?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantdrunkle: A coup d’etat is much more exciting, and will only add to your legend.
Buy a beret, a pearl handled .45, some mirrored sunglasses and a riding crop. You will also have to design and fashion an outrageous uniform replete with epaulets, medals and festooned with brightly colored piping.
I think that you and a handful of dedicated volunteers could seize (for starters) downtown Escondido, or Chula Vista, or even Del Mar (where they’re so soused in the evenings, they wouldn’t even notice). From there, you can build your revolution and head to Sacramento and thence to Washington, DC.
You would need someone to help with the propaganda posters and sloganeering, as well a media person for CNN and MTV. I think this country is ripe for revolution; why not you?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantdrunkle: A coup d’etat is much more exciting, and will only add to your legend.
Buy a beret, a pearl handled .45, some mirrored sunglasses and a riding crop. You will also have to design and fashion an outrageous uniform replete with epaulets, medals and festooned with brightly colored piping.
I think that you and a handful of dedicated volunteers could seize (for starters) downtown Escondido, or Chula Vista, or even Del Mar (where they’re so soused in the evenings, they wouldn’t even notice). From there, you can build your revolution and head to Sacramento and thence to Washington, DC.
You would need someone to help with the propaganda posters and sloganeering, as well a media person for CNN and MTV. I think this country is ripe for revolution; why not you?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantdrunkle: A coup d’etat is much more exciting, and will only add to your legend.
Buy a beret, a pearl handled .45, some mirrored sunglasses and a riding crop. You will also have to design and fashion an outrageous uniform replete with epaulets, medals and festooned with brightly colored piping.
I think that you and a handful of dedicated volunteers could seize (for starters) downtown Escondido, or Chula Vista, or even Del Mar (where they’re so soused in the evenings, they wouldn’t even notice). From there, you can build your revolution and head to Sacramento and thence to Washington, DC.
You would need someone to help with the propaganda posters and sloganeering, as well a media person for CNN and MTV. I think this country is ripe for revolution; why not you?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantdrunkle: A coup d’etat is much more exciting, and will only add to your legend.
Buy a beret, a pearl handled .45, some mirrored sunglasses and a riding crop. You will also have to design and fashion an outrageous uniform replete with epaulets, medals and festooned with brightly colored piping.
I think that you and a handful of dedicated volunteers could seize (for starters) downtown Escondido, or Chula Vista, or even Del Mar (where they’re so soused in the evenings, they wouldn’t even notice). From there, you can build your revolution and head to Sacramento and thence to Washington, DC.
You would need someone to help with the propaganda posters and sloganeering, as well a media person for CNN and MTV. I think this country is ripe for revolution; why not you?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantzk: As a Catholic, I want to tread carefully on the issue of Mormonism. I don’t think of Hindus, or Buddhists, or Jews, or other Christian sects as wacky. I have an issue with Islam, but largely because it is a religion designed to be proselytized by the sword, and offers no equal accommodation with other faiths, especially where it is the dominant religion.
There is a demonstrable historicity to Jesus. One can find proof of his existence, as well as his teachings, and his torture and death at the hands of the Romans. Does this make him the Son of God? No, but I believe he is.
My main issue with the Mormons is how this religion came into being. An angel named Moroni brought a set of golden plates down to earth for Joseph Smith to read and transcribe. Transcription was achieved by using magic goggles (also provided by Moroni). The Book of Mormon is the result of this event. The Book of Mormon makes some pretty fantastical representations (Jesus coming to America after his resurrection is one), and these have been debunked by historians and scholars over the years. And not just Christian historians and scholars. BYU (Brigham Young University) has spent considerable time and money trying to prove that the representations made in the Book of Mormon did in fact happen, but has failed utterly.
Again, as a Catholic, I want to be very careful in using the word “cult” as that finger can justifiably be pointed right back at us. However, Catholicism’s theological underpinnings are sound, unlike Mormonism’s. Remember, Martin Luther was a Catholic priest prior to the Schism, and his issue with the Church was not theological, rather it centered on abuses (bastard children, sale of indulgences, land holdings and sales, etc) that were wholly earthly in nature.
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