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January 26, 2009 at 10:30 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337350January 26, 2009 at 10:24 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #336806
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBreeze: Sorry, but you’re clearly wrong on this and you’re pulling your information from biased sources (HuffPost).
How many people do you know that are in either Iraq or Afghanistan right now? I happen to know six (four in Iraq and two in Afghanistan). I can tell you, without any fear of contradiction, that the continuing disintegration of Afghanistan and the loss of operational tempo that was sustained during NATO’s assumption of various areas of responsibility was watched closely by Centcom and several operations plans at various troop levels were drawn up.
The operations plans were all contingent upon which units would be available for deployment and how many of the NATO forces would be supplanted by US forces and how long, in terms of sustaining combat operations, those forces would be there.
You DO NOT move entire US Army combat brigades or Marine Expeditionary Units/Forces overnight. A good friend of mine is an LTC with Centcom and we’ve been talking about this on and off for over the last year. I’d wager he has a far better handle, being one of those “boots on the ground” than any of the punditocracy over at HuffPost.
January 26, 2009 at 10:24 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337135Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBreeze: Sorry, but you’re clearly wrong on this and you’re pulling your information from biased sources (HuffPost).
How many people do you know that are in either Iraq or Afghanistan right now? I happen to know six (four in Iraq and two in Afghanistan). I can tell you, without any fear of contradiction, that the continuing disintegration of Afghanistan and the loss of operational tempo that was sustained during NATO’s assumption of various areas of responsibility was watched closely by Centcom and several operations plans at various troop levels were drawn up.
The operations plans were all contingent upon which units would be available for deployment and how many of the NATO forces would be supplanted by US forces and how long, in terms of sustaining combat operations, those forces would be there.
You DO NOT move entire US Army combat brigades or Marine Expeditionary Units/Forces overnight. A good friend of mine is an LTC with Centcom and we’ve been talking about this on and off for over the last year. I’d wager he has a far better handle, being one of those “boots on the ground” than any of the punditocracy over at HuffPost.
January 26, 2009 at 10:24 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337223Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBreeze: Sorry, but you’re clearly wrong on this and you’re pulling your information from biased sources (HuffPost).
How many people do you know that are in either Iraq or Afghanistan right now? I happen to know six (four in Iraq and two in Afghanistan). I can tell you, without any fear of contradiction, that the continuing disintegration of Afghanistan and the loss of operational tempo that was sustained during NATO’s assumption of various areas of responsibility was watched closely by Centcom and several operations plans at various troop levels were drawn up.
The operations plans were all contingent upon which units would be available for deployment and how many of the NATO forces would be supplanted by US forces and how long, in terms of sustaining combat operations, those forces would be there.
You DO NOT move entire US Army combat brigades or Marine Expeditionary Units/Forces overnight. A good friend of mine is an LTC with Centcom and we’ve been talking about this on and off for over the last year. I’d wager he has a far better handle, being one of those “boots on the ground” than any of the punditocracy over at HuffPost.
January 26, 2009 at 10:24 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337251Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBreeze: Sorry, but you’re clearly wrong on this and you’re pulling your information from biased sources (HuffPost).
How many people do you know that are in either Iraq or Afghanistan right now? I happen to know six (four in Iraq and two in Afghanistan). I can tell you, without any fear of contradiction, that the continuing disintegration of Afghanistan and the loss of operational tempo that was sustained during NATO’s assumption of various areas of responsibility was watched closely by Centcom and several operations plans at various troop levels were drawn up.
The operations plans were all contingent upon which units would be available for deployment and how many of the NATO forces would be supplanted by US forces and how long, in terms of sustaining combat operations, those forces would be there.
You DO NOT move entire US Army combat brigades or Marine Expeditionary Units/Forces overnight. A good friend of mine is an LTC with Centcom and we’ve been talking about this on and off for over the last year. I’d wager he has a far better handle, being one of those “boots on the ground” than any of the punditocracy over at HuffPost.
January 26, 2009 at 10:24 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337340Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBreeze: Sorry, but you’re clearly wrong on this and you’re pulling your information from biased sources (HuffPost).
How many people do you know that are in either Iraq or Afghanistan right now? I happen to know six (four in Iraq and two in Afghanistan). I can tell you, without any fear of contradiction, that the continuing disintegration of Afghanistan and the loss of operational tempo that was sustained during NATO’s assumption of various areas of responsibility was watched closely by Centcom and several operations plans at various troop levels were drawn up.
The operations plans were all contingent upon which units would be available for deployment and how many of the NATO forces would be supplanted by US forces and how long, in terms of sustaining combat operations, those forces would be there.
You DO NOT move entire US Army combat brigades or Marine Expeditionary Units/Forces overnight. A good friend of mine is an LTC with Centcom and we’ve been talking about this on and off for over the last year. I’d wager he has a far better handle, being one of those “boots on the ground” than any of the punditocracy over at HuffPost.
January 26, 2009 at 10:12 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #336785Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBreeze: Well, if you’re going to cull quotes from that lefty wag, The HuffPost, I’m going to cull quotes from that righty rag, the WSJ. Attached is an op-ed piece on Obama and Iraq and it makes for interesting reading.
Breeze, you should (and I’m being serious now) go back and look at how Obama has “reshaped his narrative” on Iraq. Look at where he started, in terms of discussing the withdrawal and drawdown, and look at where he is RIGHT NOW. Then we can intelligently discuss where, exactly, the central front in the war is and what his future plans actually look like.
January 26, 2009 at 10:12 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337113Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBreeze: Well, if you’re going to cull quotes from that lefty wag, The HuffPost, I’m going to cull quotes from that righty rag, the WSJ. Attached is an op-ed piece on Obama and Iraq and it makes for interesting reading.
Breeze, you should (and I’m being serious now) go back and look at how Obama has “reshaped his narrative” on Iraq. Look at where he started, in terms of discussing the withdrawal and drawdown, and look at where he is RIGHT NOW. Then we can intelligently discuss where, exactly, the central front in the war is and what his future plans actually look like.
January 26, 2009 at 10:12 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337202Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBreeze: Well, if you’re going to cull quotes from that lefty wag, The HuffPost, I’m going to cull quotes from that righty rag, the WSJ. Attached is an op-ed piece on Obama and Iraq and it makes for interesting reading.
Breeze, you should (and I’m being serious now) go back and look at how Obama has “reshaped his narrative” on Iraq. Look at where he started, in terms of discussing the withdrawal and drawdown, and look at where he is RIGHT NOW. Then we can intelligently discuss where, exactly, the central front in the war is and what his future plans actually look like.
January 26, 2009 at 10:12 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337230Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBreeze: Well, if you’re going to cull quotes from that lefty wag, The HuffPost, I’m going to cull quotes from that righty rag, the WSJ. Attached is an op-ed piece on Obama and Iraq and it makes for interesting reading.
Breeze, you should (and I’m being serious now) go back and look at how Obama has “reshaped his narrative” on Iraq. Look at where he started, in terms of discussing the withdrawal and drawdown, and look at where he is RIGHT NOW. Then we can intelligently discuss where, exactly, the central front in the war is and what his future plans actually look like.
January 26, 2009 at 10:12 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337317Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBreeze: Well, if you’re going to cull quotes from that lefty wag, The HuffPost, I’m going to cull quotes from that righty rag, the WSJ. Attached is an op-ed piece on Obama and Iraq and it makes for interesting reading.
Breeze, you should (and I’m being serious now) go back and look at how Obama has “reshaped his narrative” on Iraq. Look at where he started, in terms of discussing the withdrawal and drawdown, and look at where he is RIGHT NOW. Then we can intelligently discuss where, exactly, the central front in the war is and what his future plans actually look like.
January 26, 2009 at 9:58 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #336775Allan from Fallbrook
Participantafx: The US pursued and prosecuted a successful strategy in Afghanistan prior to the handover to NATO forces. The problem was that the NATO forces, by and large, did not want to fight (the exception being the Canadians).
Most of the NATO forces confine themselves to their own areas of operation and do not actively patrol and do not seek out the Taliban or al-Qaeda forces in battle.
Granted, there are other problems there, the largest being the Karzai government, but the Obama “surge” you reference has been in the planning stages for a while now.
January 26, 2009 at 9:58 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337103Allan from Fallbrook
Participantafx: The US pursued and prosecuted a successful strategy in Afghanistan prior to the handover to NATO forces. The problem was that the NATO forces, by and large, did not want to fight (the exception being the Canadians).
Most of the NATO forces confine themselves to their own areas of operation and do not actively patrol and do not seek out the Taliban or al-Qaeda forces in battle.
Granted, there are other problems there, the largest being the Karzai government, but the Obama “surge” you reference has been in the planning stages for a while now.
January 26, 2009 at 9:58 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337192Allan from Fallbrook
Participantafx: The US pursued and prosecuted a successful strategy in Afghanistan prior to the handover to NATO forces. The problem was that the NATO forces, by and large, did not want to fight (the exception being the Canadians).
Most of the NATO forces confine themselves to their own areas of operation and do not actively patrol and do not seek out the Taliban or al-Qaeda forces in battle.
Granted, there are other problems there, the largest being the Karzai government, but the Obama “surge” you reference has been in the planning stages for a while now.
January 26, 2009 at 9:58 PM in reply to: OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties” #337220Allan from Fallbrook
Participantafx: The US pursued and prosecuted a successful strategy in Afghanistan prior to the handover to NATO forces. The problem was that the NATO forces, by and large, did not want to fight (the exception being the Canadians).
Most of the NATO forces confine themselves to their own areas of operation and do not actively patrol and do not seek out the Taliban or al-Qaeda forces in battle.
Granted, there are other problems there, the largest being the Karzai government, but the Obama “surge” you reference has been in the planning stages for a while now.
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