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ParticipantThe common wisdom here has been to “wait”. The problem with waiting are that the real families that truly want to live the American dream are being told that this is the “market”. It is better to buy now. Well those people have lost equity like crazy over the last 3 years. The only way to combat this type of insidious behavior is to shine a light on it. Let the neighbors know, let each of the lenders know (assuming that they are different) let the FBI know – hell send her a letter that you know, go to other blogs…there are lots of them write a letter to the paper. If more people did this instead of laying down that would become the normal thing to do.
“Normal” behavior is defined by what most people do. In the world we live in, this lady’s behavior is “normal”. Actually, waiting is a choice to do nothing. Meaning that is your choice. Her behavior is unacceptable and she knows that it true.
I think that this “normal” behavior has been encouraged by the real estate industry and that it hurts real people looking for a real house that they can live in. BTW, that used to be the norm.
Oh for those that think that demand for real estate is created by regular people and not speculators I hartily disagree. The confict of interest in assuring people to use mutiple home purchases becasue of leverage is huge. Brokers don’t get paid on the down…they get paid on the whole deal. The business has turned into one of speculation: the “get rich quick menatality permeates any conversation that I have had with any agent over the last 5 years. Now they are telling us that is the deal: like it or not. But they are not talking about who is doing the buying….they are not talking about the huge amount of defaults…they are not talking about how many prime loans are defaulting (at a historic high)….all they do is tell you that prices are up….(or if they are down a little how great of an opportunity you’re missing) and that there are 10 buyers standing in line for every deal. Well even the NAR says prices are still going down………Its a battle of perception that they have to fight becasue they need prices up to keep their standard of living.
Why did 29 brand new condo’s 3 blocks from O’side pier have to go to auction if there is such unbelievable high demand? I don’t know but it could be that speculators don’t want the high carrying costs?
Why does the state have to impose a moratoria on Forclosure?!!!!!!!!!!!!If real estate is such a great investment? Why is there 8k govt rebate if real estate is in such great shape?………give me a frigging break.aldante
ParticipantThe common wisdom here has been to “wait”. The problem with waiting are that the real families that truly want to live the American dream are being told that this is the “market”. It is better to buy now. Well those people have lost equity like crazy over the last 3 years. The only way to combat this type of insidious behavior is to shine a light on it. Let the neighbors know, let each of the lenders know (assuming that they are different) let the FBI know – hell send her a letter that you know, go to other blogs…there are lots of them write a letter to the paper. If more people did this instead of laying down that would become the normal thing to do.
“Normal” behavior is defined by what most people do. In the world we live in, this lady’s behavior is “normal”. Actually, waiting is a choice to do nothing. Meaning that is your choice. Her behavior is unacceptable and she knows that it true.
I think that this “normal” behavior has been encouraged by the real estate industry and that it hurts real people looking for a real house that they can live in. BTW, that used to be the norm.
Oh for those that think that demand for real estate is created by regular people and not speculators I hartily disagree. The confict of interest in assuring people to use mutiple home purchases becasue of leverage is huge. Brokers don’t get paid on the down…they get paid on the whole deal. The business has turned into one of speculation: the “get rich quick menatality permeates any conversation that I have had with any agent over the last 5 years. Now they are telling us that is the deal: like it or not. But they are not talking about who is doing the buying….they are not talking about the huge amount of defaults…they are not talking about how many prime loans are defaulting (at a historic high)….all they do is tell you that prices are up….(or if they are down a little how great of an opportunity you’re missing) and that there are 10 buyers standing in line for every deal. Well even the NAR says prices are still going down………Its a battle of perception that they have to fight becasue they need prices up to keep their standard of living.
Why did 29 brand new condo’s 3 blocks from O’side pier have to go to auction if there is such unbelievable high demand? I don’t know but it could be that speculators don’t want the high carrying costs?
Why does the state have to impose a moratoria on Forclosure?!!!!!!!!!!!!If real estate is such a great investment? Why is there 8k govt rebate if real estate is in such great shape?………give me a frigging break.aldante
ParticipantI think that there are a lot of people that are buying properties. No doubt. I also know that here in Carlsbad there are properties that are being held back from market. I think that perception is very powerful and when I see houses sitting empty with no activity (two less then a mile from where I am renting)and realtors making statement asserting that prices are where they are because of no supply, it makes me just question their integrity. They know as well as I that for a while anyway perception is reality. I latched on to the exact same part of this article that you did Temeculaguy. Most of the mortgage activity is (!!!!) and has been (!!!!) refis. Not new purchases!! That is the entire point. Agents, mainstream media, bloggers, have taken the mortgage refis as signs of a rebound. This article at least shows that a)most of the activity that “interested parties” have pointed to as green shoots may just be “yellow weeds” b)$700 billion is not just a drop in the bucket….at the very least the mortgage business will suffer orginations or refi’s. In a time when 10% unemployment is reality, this will not help.
BTW my whole point is simply that the market will eventually prevail. All of the government action, all of the wealth transfer (and it has been massive) all of the fraud committed by homeowners, realtors, mortgage agents, appraisers, lawyers, “investors” simply delays the inevitable.
aldante
ParticipantI think that there are a lot of people that are buying properties. No doubt. I also know that here in Carlsbad there are properties that are being held back from market. I think that perception is very powerful and when I see houses sitting empty with no activity (two less then a mile from where I am renting)and realtors making statement asserting that prices are where they are because of no supply, it makes me just question their integrity. They know as well as I that for a while anyway perception is reality. I latched on to the exact same part of this article that you did Temeculaguy. Most of the mortgage activity is (!!!!) and has been (!!!!) refis. Not new purchases!! That is the entire point. Agents, mainstream media, bloggers, have taken the mortgage refis as signs of a rebound. This article at least shows that a)most of the activity that “interested parties” have pointed to as green shoots may just be “yellow weeds” b)$700 billion is not just a drop in the bucket….at the very least the mortgage business will suffer orginations or refi’s. In a time when 10% unemployment is reality, this will not help.
BTW my whole point is simply that the market will eventually prevail. All of the government action, all of the wealth transfer (and it has been massive) all of the fraud committed by homeowners, realtors, mortgage agents, appraisers, lawyers, “investors” simply delays the inevitable.
aldante
ParticipantI think that there are a lot of people that are buying properties. No doubt. I also know that here in Carlsbad there are properties that are being held back from market. I think that perception is very powerful and when I see houses sitting empty with no activity (two less then a mile from where I am renting)and realtors making statement asserting that prices are where they are because of no supply, it makes me just question their integrity. They know as well as I that for a while anyway perception is reality. I latched on to the exact same part of this article that you did Temeculaguy. Most of the mortgage activity is (!!!!) and has been (!!!!) refis. Not new purchases!! That is the entire point. Agents, mainstream media, bloggers, have taken the mortgage refis as signs of a rebound. This article at least shows that a)most of the activity that “interested parties” have pointed to as green shoots may just be “yellow weeds” b)$700 billion is not just a drop in the bucket….at the very least the mortgage business will suffer orginations or refi’s. In a time when 10% unemployment is reality, this will not help.
BTW my whole point is simply that the market will eventually prevail. All of the government action, all of the wealth transfer (and it has been massive) all of the fraud committed by homeowners, realtors, mortgage agents, appraisers, lawyers, “investors” simply delays the inevitable.
aldante
ParticipantI think that there are a lot of people that are buying properties. No doubt. I also know that here in Carlsbad there are properties that are being held back from market. I think that perception is very powerful and when I see houses sitting empty with no activity (two less then a mile from where I am renting)and realtors making statement asserting that prices are where they are because of no supply, it makes me just question their integrity. They know as well as I that for a while anyway perception is reality. I latched on to the exact same part of this article that you did Temeculaguy. Most of the mortgage activity is (!!!!) and has been (!!!!) refis. Not new purchases!! That is the entire point. Agents, mainstream media, bloggers, have taken the mortgage refis as signs of a rebound. This article at least shows that a)most of the activity that “interested parties” have pointed to as green shoots may just be “yellow weeds” b)$700 billion is not just a drop in the bucket….at the very least the mortgage business will suffer orginations or refi’s. In a time when 10% unemployment is reality, this will not help.
BTW my whole point is simply that the market will eventually prevail. All of the government action, all of the wealth transfer (and it has been massive) all of the fraud committed by homeowners, realtors, mortgage agents, appraisers, lawyers, “investors” simply delays the inevitable.
aldante
ParticipantI think that there are a lot of people that are buying properties. No doubt. I also know that here in Carlsbad there are properties that are being held back from market. I think that perception is very powerful and when I see houses sitting empty with no activity (two less then a mile from where I am renting)and realtors making statement asserting that prices are where they are because of no supply, it makes me just question their integrity. They know as well as I that for a while anyway perception is reality. I latched on to the exact same part of this article that you did Temeculaguy. Most of the mortgage activity is (!!!!) and has been (!!!!) refis. Not new purchases!! That is the entire point. Agents, mainstream media, bloggers, have taken the mortgage refis as signs of a rebound. This article at least shows that a)most of the activity that “interested parties” have pointed to as green shoots may just be “yellow weeds” b)$700 billion is not just a drop in the bucket….at the very least the mortgage business will suffer orginations or refi’s. In a time when 10% unemployment is reality, this will not help.
BTW my whole point is simply that the market will eventually prevail. All of the government action, all of the wealth transfer (and it has been massive) all of the fraud committed by homeowners, realtors, mortgage agents, appraisers, lawyers, “investors” simply delays the inevitable.
aldante
ParticipantTo me this is significant….my sarcasm is directed at those who keep insisting there is a whole lot of buying pressure out there……
aldante
ParticipantTo me this is significant….my sarcasm is directed at those who keep insisting there is a whole lot of buying pressure out there……
aldante
ParticipantTo me this is significant….my sarcasm is directed at those who keep insisting there is a whole lot of buying pressure out there……
aldante
ParticipantTo me this is significant….my sarcasm is directed at those who keep insisting there is a whole lot of buying pressure out there……
aldante
ParticipantTo me this is significant….my sarcasm is directed at those who keep insisting there is a whole lot of buying pressure out there……
aldante
ParticipantPalin/Rush 2012[/quote]
Never have I had more of a grotesque laugh then when I saw that………….
aldante
ParticipantPalin/Rush 2012[/quote]
Never have I had more of a grotesque laugh then when I saw that………….
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