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Participant[quote=AN]If you want alternative plan, please see my post in the 2nd page. I posted a MD’s proposal. I’ll post it again: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul339.html.%5B/quote%5D
Those are some good proposals (from 2006), but how do they address the issue of rising costs? From what I can tell those bills simply shuffle the cost from the taxpayer to the government (via credits). How will that actually lower costs? Those proposals seem happy to keep the insurance monopolies in the loop and do nothing to introduce more competition into the marketplace. They also do nothing to increase efficiency of the healthcare system. I’m not a tax/econonomics expert so I’d love to be convinced otherwise.
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Participant[quote=AN]If you want alternative plan, please see my post in the 2nd page. I posted a MD’s proposal. I’ll post it again: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul339.html.%5B/quote%5D
Those are some good proposals (from 2006), but how do they address the issue of rising costs? From what I can tell those bills simply shuffle the cost from the taxpayer to the government (via credits). How will that actually lower costs? Those proposals seem happy to keep the insurance monopolies in the loop and do nothing to introduce more competition into the marketplace. They also do nothing to increase efficiency of the healthcare system. I’m not a tax/econonomics expert so I’d love to be convinced otherwise.
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ParticipantZeit, can you or any of the opposition offer an alternative plan? Or are you happy with how things are now? Are you happy with the US being ranked somewhere around 30th-40th in health care quality despite paying double, triple or sometimes quadruple what the countries who are ranked in the top 10 pay? Are you content with the US being ranked 45th in life expectancy behind such great nations as Luxembourg, Malta, and Liechtenstein despite paying ridiculously more than those countries do for their healthcare? Are you content with the fact that we pay nearly 20% of our GDP on healthcare costs, with no correlative results to show for it?
Can we all at least agree that the status quo is not working and something needs to be done before healthcare costs bleed our country to death? Once that is established, can you offer something other than “ObamaCare” to solve the problem? Does the opposition have anything to offer other than opposition? If so, I haven’t heard it.
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ParticipantZeit, can you or any of the opposition offer an alternative plan? Or are you happy with how things are now? Are you happy with the US being ranked somewhere around 30th-40th in health care quality despite paying double, triple or sometimes quadruple what the countries who are ranked in the top 10 pay? Are you content with the US being ranked 45th in life expectancy behind such great nations as Luxembourg, Malta, and Liechtenstein despite paying ridiculously more than those countries do for their healthcare? Are you content with the fact that we pay nearly 20% of our GDP on healthcare costs, with no correlative results to show for it?
Can we all at least agree that the status quo is not working and something needs to be done before healthcare costs bleed our country to death? Once that is established, can you offer something other than “ObamaCare” to solve the problem? Does the opposition have anything to offer other than opposition? If so, I haven’t heard it.
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ParticipantZeit, can you or any of the opposition offer an alternative plan? Or are you happy with how things are now? Are you happy with the US being ranked somewhere around 30th-40th in health care quality despite paying double, triple or sometimes quadruple what the countries who are ranked in the top 10 pay? Are you content with the US being ranked 45th in life expectancy behind such great nations as Luxembourg, Malta, and Liechtenstein despite paying ridiculously more than those countries do for their healthcare? Are you content with the fact that we pay nearly 20% of our GDP on healthcare costs, with no correlative results to show for it?
Can we all at least agree that the status quo is not working and something needs to be done before healthcare costs bleed our country to death? Once that is established, can you offer something other than “ObamaCare” to solve the problem? Does the opposition have anything to offer other than opposition? If so, I haven’t heard it.
afx114
ParticipantZeit, can you or any of the opposition offer an alternative plan? Or are you happy with how things are now? Are you happy with the US being ranked somewhere around 30th-40th in health care quality despite paying double, triple or sometimes quadruple what the countries who are ranked in the top 10 pay? Are you content with the US being ranked 45th in life expectancy behind such great nations as Luxembourg, Malta, and Liechtenstein despite paying ridiculously more than those countries do for their healthcare? Are you content with the fact that we pay nearly 20% of our GDP on healthcare costs, with no correlative results to show for it?
Can we all at least agree that the status quo is not working and something needs to be done before healthcare costs bleed our country to death? Once that is established, can you offer something other than “ObamaCare” to solve the problem? Does the opposition have anything to offer other than opposition? If so, I haven’t heard it.
afx114
ParticipantZeit, can you or any of the opposition offer an alternative plan? Or are you happy with how things are now? Are you happy with the US being ranked somewhere around 30th-40th in health care quality despite paying double, triple or sometimes quadruple what the countries who are ranked in the top 10 pay? Are you content with the US being ranked 45th in life expectancy behind such great nations as Luxembourg, Malta, and Liechtenstein despite paying ridiculously more than those countries do for their healthcare? Are you content with the fact that we pay nearly 20% of our GDP on healthcare costs, with no correlative results to show for it?
Can we all at least agree that the status quo is not working and something needs to be done before healthcare costs bleed our country to death? Once that is established, can you offer something other than “ObamaCare” to solve the problem? Does the opposition have anything to offer other than opposition? If so, I haven’t heard it.
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ParticipantSpeaking of Jeff Bridges, have you checked out the new Tron Trailer yet?
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ParticipantSpeaking of Jeff Bridges, have you checked out the new Tron Trailer yet?
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ParticipantSpeaking of Jeff Bridges, have you checked out the new Tron Trailer yet?
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ParticipantSpeaking of Jeff Bridges, have you checked out the new Tron Trailer yet?
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ParticipantSpeaking of Jeff Bridges, have you checked out the new Tron Trailer yet?
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ParticipantHoly shit, did you guys just see G Gordon Liddy on Hardball?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA6oa0HkfuE
Their discussion is deja vu from a thread on here 8 or so months ago.
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ParticipantHoly shit, did you guys just see G Gordon Liddy on Hardball?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA6oa0HkfuE
Their discussion is deja vu from a thread on here 8 or so months ago.
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