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July 5, 2012 at 9:46 PM in reply to: OT: Politically Correctness has sucken to an all time low…. #747298
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Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=briansd1]What would the Founding Fathers think?
Back then, babies were born on farms and on the frontiers. Plenty of Anerican citizens were undocumented. There are still plenty today.[/quote]
Brian: Seriously? Bubba, you really do NOT have a working grasp of American History, do you? Specifically, the writings of the Founding Fathers on citizenship, the right of franchise and maintaining the integrity of the Republic.
Also, the illogic of your assertion that plenty of “American citizens” (key words being American + Citizen) were born on farms and thus lacked documentation is laughable. This is now the logical litmus test for determining if someone is or is not an American citizen?
That reminds me of your counter-argument when I pointed out that nearly 3/4 of black babies are now born out of wedlock and you attempted to assert that, without welfare, it would be WORSE… At some point, logic has to intrude. Doesn’t it?[/quote]
You should have your own talk radio show. This is very entertaining. Brian would be a caller, not the host.
Participantflu,
I sent you some more of the taxes that apply to many working people and not just the “rich.”
Participant[quote=flu][quote=spdrun]^^^
Good to hear. The longer housing prices stay sane, the better, so that Gen Y can get a leg up on the X’er and boomer idiots who are underwater. Must be nice renting from someone 25 years younger who owns 3 properties of the kind that you paid through the nose for.[/quote]
Lol….
You generation Y’ers are going to be bending over paying a lot of taxes to support all the benefits of of the Baby Boomers, during a period of time when the U.S. is not necessarily going to be the leader in a global economy and have way fewer opportunities that generations before you. Double whammy. there’s going to be fewer of you to spread the tax burden over, and the tax burden is going to be bigger with all the entitlement programs that will be due..
Us generation X’ers are going to get hurt too, but not nearly as much as you generation Y’ers and beyond. Not to mention. IF you really think Baby boomers are going to be in bad financial shape, how do you expect them to pay you for rent? Government subsidy, funded by your tax dollars?
I said this before…Be careful what you wish for…Younger generation are going to be burdened more and more with the debt of the previous generation.[/quote]Maybe the death panels will turn the old people into soylent green for the younger people, so they can keep taxing them.
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=SK in CV][quote=Veritas]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj7cT5xD2aM[/quote]
Interesting. But the supreme court ruled that it’s not a tax. Nuance is importance.[/quote]
SK: Good point, as many are missing the nuance in the Roberts’ decision, which did emphatically reject the Obama Administration’s Commerce Clause argument: “The power to regulate commerce presupposes the existence of commercial activity to be regulated. … The individual mandate, however, does not regulate existing commercial activity. It instead compels individuals to become active in commerce by purchasing a product, on the ground that their failure to do so affects interstate commerce. Construing the Commerce Clause to permit Congress to regulate individuals precisely because they are doing nothing would open a new and potentially vast domain to congressional authority. … Allowing Congress to justify federal regulation by pointing to the effect of inaction on commerce would bring countless decisions an individual could potentially make within the scope of federal regulation, and – under the government’s theory – empower Congress to make those decisions for him.”
While some, like Brian, are gloating over what they perceive as a clear-cut victory, in truth, it’s anything but. The rebuke: “Under our written Constitution … the limitation of congressional authority is not solely a matter of legislative grace.”
This is Madison versus Wilson, and the battle isn’t finished yet.[/quote]
Excellent discussion as always by Allan and SK, but as Shakespeare might say: “A tax by any other name would smell as sweet.” And Zeit might say looks like a tax, walks like a tax, etc.
Participant“The Supreme Court upheld most of President Obama’s Health Care law, including the controversial individual mandate that nearly all Americans obtain health insurance or be subject to a fine. The court said that fine ultimately amounts to a tax, and therefore the government does have the power to impose it.”
“In other words, the Court said that Congress can impose a ‘tax’ on people if they don’t buy health insurance.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303561504577494472052048242.html
ParticipantThanks for posting about Fiestaware. I am always on the look out for a good product that is made in the USA. All our cars except for the old VW are made in the USA. 3 are GM. Not sure I would buy GM now though.
ParticipantMade In America: “The unlikely partnership between Starbucks, with its 200,000 employees, and tiny American Mug grows out of the debate over outsourcing by American companies and what responsibility, if any, they bear for addressing the decline of the country’s job market.”
Participant“The idea that the 2012 election in the United States will be decided by the actions of a handful of leaders in Europe is gaining traction. Fast.
May 1, 2012 at 10:35 AM in reply to: OT: Well, you have until 2013 to buy stuff from amazon without paying state sales tax… #742556Participantflu,
“BUT, the bigger issue i find disturbing is CA and brown (and frankly other states) seem to be just about trying every possible thing to nickel and dime everyone from businesses to consumers…When we really should be focusing on reducing spending… I don’t see how this is going to help in the long run… Less business in state? Amazon is counting on a federal ruling to shoot this thing down…”
This is an excellent point. They are desperate. Real estate is flat and they are not getting the income. Look at all the cuts that are being proposed in schools. They need to generate income or they will not be able to sustain their spending levels. They still don’t get it.
ParticipantAnother Made in the USA sighting: Argee Corp. products. They are sold in the Home Depot, Sears, etc. They have a large line of products that are heavier gauge plastic than the made in China products.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/apr/22/tp-still-made-in-the-usa/
ParticipantFrench fry grease would at least smell better than gas.
ParticipantI think we are screwed in Afghanistan, too. The history there of the invaders leaving in ruin for decades even in modern history is solemn testament to the outcome. It is another quagmire for us. And a complete waste of blood and treasure.
ParticipantElectric cars doomed to fail:
“While the sales of some electric cars are up month-over-month, the number of electric cars sold is tiny in comparison to the rest of the auto market. It will likely remain that way unless changes are made fast says Adner, who is also the author of the new book, The Wide Lens: A Strategy for Innovation.”http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/why-electric-car-doomed-fail-150050289.html
ParticipantThis was an interesting study and I am not sure what to make of it: “What’s perhaps most interesting is that changes in gas prices, “had little impact on hybrid segment loyalty,” according to Polk. In the company’s quarterly hybrid analysis from 2008 through 2011, loyalty rates ranged from 26.4 to 41.8 percent, but spent most of the time in the 30s.”
Maybe it is the cost of the battery that contributes to the loyalty:
A: It should be noted that the Prius traction batteries are under warranty for 8-10 years or 100,000 miles, and so will be replaced for free before then in the case of failure. However, should the battery fail outside this timeline, the estimated cost of traction battery replacement is $3,000.
http://www.toyotapriusbattery.com/faq.html -
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