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Participant[quote=patb][quote=Jumby]My company just brokered a $1.5 million dollar NPN. New home builder went under in Mississippi, 35 homes. 85% of them completely done, with appraised value at $95k a piece being conservative. They also were GO Zone qualified. The investor made out….and so did I for brokering the deal.
I learned the biz thanks to this guy Dean who I personally vouch for…
P.S. Don’t be turned off by his direct response marketing, his program is legit and right now is a perfect time to be on top of this.[/quote]
risk is proportionate to reward.
You want returns, take on risks.[/quote]
So given the potential returns I’ve heard bandied about, these must be very high risk investments.
Participant[quote=patb][quote=Jumby]My company just brokered a $1.5 million dollar NPN. New home builder went under in Mississippi, 35 homes. 85% of them completely done, with appraised value at $95k a piece being conservative. They also were GO Zone qualified. The investor made out….and so did I for brokering the deal.
I learned the biz thanks to this guy Dean who I personally vouch for…
P.S. Don’t be turned off by his direct response marketing, his program is legit and right now is a perfect time to be on top of this.[/quote]
risk is proportionate to reward.
You want returns, take on risks.[/quote]
So given the potential returns I’ve heard bandied about, these must be very high risk investments.
Participant[quote=patb][quote=Jumby]My company just brokered a $1.5 million dollar NPN. New home builder went under in Mississippi, 35 homes. 85% of them completely done, with appraised value at $95k a piece being conservative. They also were GO Zone qualified. The investor made out….and so did I for brokering the deal.
I learned the biz thanks to this guy Dean who I personally vouch for…
P.S. Don’t be turned off by his direct response marketing, his program is legit and right now is a perfect time to be on top of this.[/quote]
risk is proportionate to reward.
You want returns, take on risks.[/quote]
So given the potential returns I’ve heard bandied about, these must be very high risk investments.
Participant[quote=patb][quote=Jumby]My company just brokered a $1.5 million dollar NPN. New home builder went under in Mississippi, 35 homes. 85% of them completely done, with appraised value at $95k a piece being conservative. They also were GO Zone qualified. The investor made out….and so did I for brokering the deal.
I learned the biz thanks to this guy Dean who I personally vouch for…
P.S. Don’t be turned off by his direct response marketing, his program is legit and right now is a perfect time to be on top of this.[/quote]
risk is proportionate to reward.
You want returns, take on risks.[/quote]
So given the potential returns I’ve heard bandied about, these must be very high risk investments.
ParticipantThe vote against the health care bill, is a vote against health care reform. I hear these insipid, poorly informed arguments, that are mostly baseless and come from a fear of the unknown, or some partisan BS, or worse some utopian idealism that is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle. There is no precedent in the US for a single payer system, or government run option, or any mixture or combination of systems that currently exist through out the world. Therefore there is no experience of another system, so how can you possibly argue that because something works in another part of the world, it can’t possibly work in the US. These arguments either stem from an arrogance that everything in the US is better, or from an ignorance, or lack of experience of other systems. A closed mind and ignorance makes a people their own worst enemy.
Why not do what Taiwan did? Go around the world and take the best bits of all the other systems, discarding what doesn’t work, and forge a health care reform plan that can’t fail to make everyone proud and happy. Why is that so hard?
ParticipantThe vote against the health care bill, is a vote against health care reform. I hear these insipid, poorly informed arguments, that are mostly baseless and come from a fear of the unknown, or some partisan BS, or worse some utopian idealism that is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle. There is no precedent in the US for a single payer system, or government run option, or any mixture or combination of systems that currently exist through out the world. Therefore there is no experience of another system, so how can you possibly argue that because something works in another part of the world, it can’t possibly work in the US. These arguments either stem from an arrogance that everything in the US is better, or from an ignorance, or lack of experience of other systems. A closed mind and ignorance makes a people their own worst enemy.
Why not do what Taiwan did? Go around the world and take the best bits of all the other systems, discarding what doesn’t work, and forge a health care reform plan that can’t fail to make everyone proud and happy. Why is that so hard?
ParticipantThe vote against the health care bill, is a vote against health care reform. I hear these insipid, poorly informed arguments, that are mostly baseless and come from a fear of the unknown, or some partisan BS, or worse some utopian idealism that is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle. There is no precedent in the US for a single payer system, or government run option, or any mixture or combination of systems that currently exist through out the world. Therefore there is no experience of another system, so how can you possibly argue that because something works in another part of the world, it can’t possibly work in the US. These arguments either stem from an arrogance that everything in the US is better, or from an ignorance, or lack of experience of other systems. A closed mind and ignorance makes a people their own worst enemy.
Why not do what Taiwan did? Go around the world and take the best bits of all the other systems, discarding what doesn’t work, and forge a health care reform plan that can’t fail to make everyone proud and happy. Why is that so hard?
ParticipantThe vote against the health care bill, is a vote against health care reform. I hear these insipid, poorly informed arguments, that are mostly baseless and come from a fear of the unknown, or some partisan BS, or worse some utopian idealism that is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle. There is no precedent in the US for a single payer system, or government run option, or any mixture or combination of systems that currently exist through out the world. Therefore there is no experience of another system, so how can you possibly argue that because something works in another part of the world, it can’t possibly work in the US. These arguments either stem from an arrogance that everything in the US is better, or from an ignorance, or lack of experience of other systems. A closed mind and ignorance makes a people their own worst enemy.
Why not do what Taiwan did? Go around the world and take the best bits of all the other systems, discarding what doesn’t work, and forge a health care reform plan that can’t fail to make everyone proud and happy. Why is that so hard?
ParticipantThe vote against the health care bill, is a vote against health care reform. I hear these insipid, poorly informed arguments, that are mostly baseless and come from a fear of the unknown, or some partisan BS, or worse some utopian idealism that is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle. There is no precedent in the US for a single payer system, or government run option, or any mixture or combination of systems that currently exist through out the world. Therefore there is no experience of another system, so how can you possibly argue that because something works in another part of the world, it can’t possibly work in the US. These arguments either stem from an arrogance that everything in the US is better, or from an ignorance, or lack of experience of other systems. A closed mind and ignorance makes a people their own worst enemy.
Why not do what Taiwan did? Go around the world and take the best bits of all the other systems, discarding what doesn’t work, and forge a health care reform plan that can’t fail to make everyone proud and happy. Why is that so hard?
ParticipantHmmm! Sduuuude, I think you might be missing the point here, or are just splitting hairs. Nobody’s talking about killing people. Health care is about keeping people alive …unless you are referring to the death wards:)
Well, if they voluntarily decide it, they also deem it. To deem is not to enforce. You’re splitting hairs.
The reason the costs are so high is that profit comes before right, shareholders before policy holders, greed before restraint, incompetence before efficiency. You can say the government indirectly has a hand in influencing everything, but that doesn’t makes it the main culprit, unless that is, it had the opportunity to make something right and failed to do, as is the danger in this case.
I don’t follow your argument about punishing people for not upholding their moral duty. The punishment comes from not educating people as to the facts, and therefore denying them the right to make those proper, or ‘moral’ choices in the first place. I use moral in a general utilitarian sense, and convey no religious overtones. We practice morality in the tiniest of social norms, which don’t necessarily conform to any written creed.
Do you like pizza by any chance?
ParticipantHmmm! Sduuuude, I think you might be missing the point here, or are just splitting hairs. Nobody’s talking about killing people. Health care is about keeping people alive …unless you are referring to the death wards:)
Well, if they voluntarily decide it, they also deem it. To deem is not to enforce. You’re splitting hairs.
The reason the costs are so high is that profit comes before right, shareholders before policy holders, greed before restraint, incompetence before efficiency. You can say the government indirectly has a hand in influencing everything, but that doesn’t makes it the main culprit, unless that is, it had the opportunity to make something right and failed to do, as is the danger in this case.
I don’t follow your argument about punishing people for not upholding their moral duty. The punishment comes from not educating people as to the facts, and therefore denying them the right to make those proper, or ‘moral’ choices in the first place. I use moral in a general utilitarian sense, and convey no religious overtones. We practice morality in the tiniest of social norms, which don’t necessarily conform to any written creed.
Do you like pizza by any chance?
ParticipantHmmm! Sduuuude, I think you might be missing the point here, or are just splitting hairs. Nobody’s talking about killing people. Health care is about keeping people alive …unless you are referring to the death wards:)
Well, if they voluntarily decide it, they also deem it. To deem is not to enforce. You’re splitting hairs.
The reason the costs are so high is that profit comes before right, shareholders before policy holders, greed before restraint, incompetence before efficiency. You can say the government indirectly has a hand in influencing everything, but that doesn’t makes it the main culprit, unless that is, it had the opportunity to make something right and failed to do, as is the danger in this case.
I don’t follow your argument about punishing people for not upholding their moral duty. The punishment comes from not educating people as to the facts, and therefore denying them the right to make those proper, or ‘moral’ choices in the first place. I use moral in a general utilitarian sense, and convey no religious overtones. We practice morality in the tiniest of social norms, which don’t necessarily conform to any written creed.
Do you like pizza by any chance?
ParticipantHmmm! Sduuuude, I think you might be missing the point here, or are just splitting hairs. Nobody’s talking about killing people. Health care is about keeping people alive …unless you are referring to the death wards:)
Well, if they voluntarily decide it, they also deem it. To deem is not to enforce. You’re splitting hairs.
The reason the costs are so high is that profit comes before right, shareholders before policy holders, greed before restraint, incompetence before efficiency. You can say the government indirectly has a hand in influencing everything, but that doesn’t makes it the main culprit, unless that is, it had the opportunity to make something right and failed to do, as is the danger in this case.
I don’t follow your argument about punishing people for not upholding their moral duty. The punishment comes from not educating people as to the facts, and therefore denying them the right to make those proper, or ‘moral’ choices in the first place. I use moral in a general utilitarian sense, and convey no religious overtones. We practice morality in the tiniest of social norms, which don’t necessarily conform to any written creed.
Do you like pizza by any chance?
ParticipantHmmm! Sduuuude, I think you might be missing the point here, or are just splitting hairs. Nobody’s talking about killing people. Health care is about keeping people alive …unless you are referring to the death wards:)
Well, if they voluntarily decide it, they also deem it. To deem is not to enforce. You’re splitting hairs.
The reason the costs are so high is that profit comes before right, shareholders before policy holders, greed before restraint, incompetence before efficiency. You can say the government indirectly has a hand in influencing everything, but that doesn’t makes it the main culprit, unless that is, it had the opportunity to make something right and failed to do, as is the danger in this case.
I don’t follow your argument about punishing people for not upholding their moral duty. The punishment comes from not educating people as to the facts, and therefore denying them the right to make those proper, or ‘moral’ choices in the first place. I use moral in a general utilitarian sense, and convey no religious overtones. We practice morality in the tiniest of social norms, which don’t necessarily conform to any written creed.
Do you like pizza by any chance?
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