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June 10, 2013 at 3:37 PM #20672June 10, 2013 at 4:58 PM #762582
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ParticipantThis guy is the archetypal Pied Piper leading us toward Idiocracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy). Anyone having children today should realize what kind of society they’re tossing their kids into. Personally I find the whole situation sad, on the one hand, and yet enormously entertaining on the other (as I’m not going to produce any humans to leave behind).
June 10, 2013 at 5:06 PM #762583Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantDave: That movie should be required viewing in this country. Hilariously funny and incredibly sad, all at the same time.
Of course, having a chopper-riding, machine gun-toting Prez whose name includes “Mountain Dew” would be pretty awesome.
Along with “Monday Night Rehabilitation”.
June 11, 2013 at 6:30 PM #762647CA renter
ParticipantWow, watching that is definitely an Idiocracy moment!
He does NOT “love” women, and he certainly does NOT “love” his children. He loves sex, and expects everyone else to pay for it.
June 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM #762705SD Squatter
Participant[quote=CA renter]Wow, watching that is definitely an Idiocracy moment!
He does NOT “love” women, and he certainly does NOT “love” his children. He loves sex, and expects everyone else to pay for it.[/quote]
“You can’t knock no man for loving women”
🙂June 12, 2013 at 2:44 PM #762717no_such_reality
Participant[quote=CA renter]Wow, watching that is definitely an Idiocracy moment!
He does NOT “love” women, and he certainly does NOT “love” his children. He loves sex, and expects everyone else to pay for it.[/quote]
No CAR, my gut tells me the women involved knew exactly what they were doing.
June 12, 2013 at 2:51 PM #762719UCGal
ParticipantI have a very good friend who’s FOB (father of baby) is like this guy. She fell for the lines and smooth talk… And he was super attentive and said all the right things. He was there for her during the pregnancy… but was a no-show, literally, when it came time to come home from the hospital.
FWIW – she’s not a push-over, tramp, or someone who slept around. In the 20 years I’ve known this friend, she’s never had a boyfriend. And this was her one “serious” relationship. She’s a good, church going, woman. Not a tramp. The guy’s lines were very smooth.
Periodically, he’d pop back into her life – she’d allows her daughter to see him, but never fell for his charm again. Her daughter learned at a tender age that the dad promised wonderful things – but didn’t deliver.
The best of my knowledge – this guy (friends baby-daddy) had 16 kids with 5 women. My friend was the only one smart enough to recognize what he was and not fall for it a second/third/or more time. The guy in the article is similar (although a grander scale) – 14 moms, 22 kids.
My friend did everything legal to try and get child support : had his wages garnished, his tax refund diverted, etc. But he’d quit his job as soon as he started getting garnished… So she collected only a few thousand in child support over the 18 years he owed. Plus she was competing for his limited income with 4 other moms. So mostly she worked hard, built a good network of friends around her to help her with the tough road of being a single mom. (I’m proud to have been part of the network.) She and her daughter are amazing people… despite the idiot FOB.
Her daughter is now a senior at Temple University…
June 12, 2013 at 3:35 PM #762722Participant[quote=no_such_reality][quote=CA renter]Wow, watching that is definitely an Idiocracy moment!
He does NOT “love” women, and he certainly does NOT “love” his children. He loves sex, and expects everyone else to pay for it.[/quote]
No CAR, my gut tells me the women involved knew exactly what they were doing.[/quote]
NSR: Not to beat the personal responsibility drum too hard, but, yeah, I’d agree with you.
I’ve got friends in local law enforcement that tell me about how kids growing up in this environment learn very early about “the system”: how it works and how to work it.
Your tax dollars hard at work…
June 12, 2013 at 3:40 PM #762723SK in CV
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=no_such_reality][quote=CA renter]Wow, watching that is definitely an Idiocracy moment!
He does NOT “love” women, and he certainly does NOT “love” his children. He loves sex, and expects everyone else to pay for it.[/quote]
No CAR, my gut tells me the women involved knew exactly what they were doing.[/quote]
NSR: Not to beat the personal responsibility drum too hard, but, yeah, I’d agree with you.
I’ve got friends in local law enforcement that tell me about how kids growing up in this environment learn very early about “the system”: how it works and how to work it.
Your tax dollars hard at work…[/quote]
You guys have to be f’ing kidding me. A woman WANTS to have a baby with a guy whose had multiple kids by multiple women and has no relationship with any of them? Because that’s what “knowing what they’re getting into” would mean.
I understand the whole “poor women have babies just to collect welfare” BS. But wanting to have a baby with a schmuck that you know will never be able to pay for any child rearing costs? Not a chance.
June 12, 2013 at 3:56 PM #762725ParticipantWhat I’m saying is they wanted to have a baby. I seriously doubt many were accidents.
As for whether they believed smooth lines, wanted to believe smooth lines, or just didn’t care, who knows. Whether or not they wanted him there, whether or not they care, who knows and frankly, I’ve seen that said, many don’t care if the dad is around.
In the end, they wanted a baby. 22 accidents didn’t happen.
Do they have the kid to get welfare. No. Do they have the kid and know welfare will provide? Yes.
June 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM #762726Participant[quote=no_such_reality]What I’m saying is they wanted to have a baby. I seriously doubt many were accidents.
As for whether they believed smooth lines, wanted to believe smooth lines, or just didn’t care, who knows. Whether or not they wanted him there, whether or not they care, who knows and frankly, I’ve seen that said, many don’t care if the dad is around.
In the end, they wanted a baby. 22 accidents didn’t happen.
Do they have the kid to get welfare. No. Do they have the kid and know welfare will provide? Yes.[/quote]
+1. Well put and spot on.
June 12, 2013 at 4:08 PM #762727Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=no_such_reality][quote=CA renter]Wow, watching that is definitely an Idiocracy moment!
He does NOT “love” women, and he certainly does NOT “love” his children. He loves sex, and expects everyone else to pay for it.[/quote]
No CAR, my gut tells me the women involved knew exactly what they were doing.[/quote]
NSR: Not to beat the personal responsibility drum too hard, but, yeah, I’d agree with you.
I’ve got friends in local law enforcement that tell me about how kids growing up in this environment learn very early about “the system”: how it works and how to work it.
Your tax dollars hard at work…[/quote]
You guys have to be f’ing kidding me. A woman WANTS to have a baby with a guy whose had multiple kids by multiple women and has no relationship with any of them? Because that’s what “knowing what they’re getting into” would mean.
I understand the whole “poor women have babies just to collect welfare” BS. But wanting to have a baby with a schmuck that you know will never be able to pay for any child rearing costs? Not a chance.[/quote]
SK: And yet you have out-of-wedlock births in some black communities approaching 70%. How to explain the statistical significance of that?
June 12, 2013 at 4:33 PM #762728Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
SK: And yet you have out-of-wedlock births in some black communities approaching 70%. How to explain the statistical significance of that?[/quote]Maybe they wanted to have babies. No chance they wanted to have babies with this guy, “knowing what they were getting into”.
June 12, 2013 at 8:02 PM #762732FlyerInHi
GuestHow about providing free birth control to lower “accidents.” No questions asked free abortions could help women who got impregnated but aren’t ready to become mothers.
That would drastically lower social costs.
June 12, 2013 at 9:11 PM #762733Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
SK: And yet you have out-of-wedlock births in some black communities approaching 70%. How to explain the statistical significance of that?[/quote]Maybe they wanted to have babies. No chance they wanted to have babies with this guy, “knowing what they were getting into”.[/quote]
22 babies say you’re wrong.
With only 14 mothers, at least 8 of them are number 2 or higher.
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