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  • March 11, 2008 at 10:34 AM #167778
    (former)FormerSanDiegan
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    Maybe it’s just me, but I find it odd that someone with a pseudonym containing the term “contra” is citing the USA Today, MSN.com as well as comments from Warren Buffett to support their position.

    As for Warren Buffett. I agree that he is an investment genius. But his batting average is not 1.000.

    March 11, 2008 at 10:45 AM #167358
    sdnerd
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    For those that hate searching for articles, highlights below. Actually some interesting information.

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    Eighteen percent of workers had loans outstanding from their retirement plans in 2007, up from 11% in 2006, according to a survey by the Transamerica Center for Retirement Studies, a nonprofit corporation funded by Transamerica Life Insurance.

    Major retirement plan providers are reporting a similar trend. The number of participants taking loans from their 401(k) plans rose by 7% at the end of last year from six months earlier, according to a JPMorgan Chase analysis of 350 plans nationwide that cover 1.3 million people. Those results followed a period from January 2005 through June 2007 when loans from these 401(k) plans fell by 15%.
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    In the Transamerica study, which surveyed more than 2,000 full-time employees at for-profit companies, 49% of those who borrowed from their retirement savings said they had taken the loans to pay off debts, up from 27% in 2006.

    In some instances, workers in fear of home foreclosure may be tapping retirement funds as a last-ditch measure, says Anne Lester, a senior portfolio manager at JPMorgan Asset Management.
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    March 11, 2008 at 10:45 AM #167681
    sdnerd
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    For those that hate searching for articles, highlights below. Actually some interesting information.

    ”
    Eighteen percent of workers had loans outstanding from their retirement plans in 2007, up from 11% in 2006, according to a survey by the Transamerica Center for Retirement Studies, a nonprofit corporation funded by Transamerica Life Insurance.

    Major retirement plan providers are reporting a similar trend. The number of participants taking loans from their 401(k) plans rose by 7% at the end of last year from six months earlier, according to a JPMorgan Chase analysis of 350 plans nationwide that cover 1.3 million people. Those results followed a period from January 2005 through June 2007 when loans from these 401(k) plans fell by 15%.
    ”

    …

    ”
    In the Transamerica study, which surveyed more than 2,000 full-time employees at for-profit companies, 49% of those who borrowed from their retirement savings said they had taken the loans to pay off debts, up from 27% in 2006.

    In some instances, workers in fear of home foreclosure may be tapping retirement funds as a last-ditch measure, says Anne Lester, a senior portfolio manager at JPMorgan Asset Management.
    “

    March 11, 2008 at 10:45 AM #167685
    sdnerd
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    For those that hate searching for articles, highlights below. Actually some interesting information.

    ”
    Eighteen percent of workers had loans outstanding from their retirement plans in 2007, up from 11% in 2006, according to a survey by the Transamerica Center for Retirement Studies, a nonprofit corporation funded by Transamerica Life Insurance.

    Major retirement plan providers are reporting a similar trend. The number of participants taking loans from their 401(k) plans rose by 7% at the end of last year from six months earlier, according to a JPMorgan Chase analysis of 350 plans nationwide that cover 1.3 million people. Those results followed a period from January 2005 through June 2007 when loans from these 401(k) plans fell by 15%.
    ”

    …

    ”
    In the Transamerica study, which surveyed more than 2,000 full-time employees at for-profit companies, 49% of those who borrowed from their retirement savings said they had taken the loans to pay off debts, up from 27% in 2006.

    In some instances, workers in fear of home foreclosure may be tapping retirement funds as a last-ditch measure, says Anne Lester, a senior portfolio manager at JPMorgan Asset Management.
    “

    March 11, 2008 at 10:45 AM #167716
    sdnerd
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    For those that hate searching for articles, highlights below. Actually some interesting information.

    ”
    Eighteen percent of workers had loans outstanding from their retirement plans in 2007, up from 11% in 2006, according to a survey by the Transamerica Center for Retirement Studies, a nonprofit corporation funded by Transamerica Life Insurance.

    Major retirement plan providers are reporting a similar trend. The number of participants taking loans from their 401(k) plans rose by 7% at the end of last year from six months earlier, according to a JPMorgan Chase analysis of 350 plans nationwide that cover 1.3 million people. Those results followed a period from January 2005 through June 2007 when loans from these 401(k) plans fell by 15%.
    ”

    …

    ”
    In the Transamerica study, which surveyed more than 2,000 full-time employees at for-profit companies, 49% of those who borrowed from their retirement savings said they had taken the loans to pay off debts, up from 27% in 2006.

    In some instances, workers in fear of home foreclosure may be tapping retirement funds as a last-ditch measure, says Anne Lester, a senior portfolio manager at JPMorgan Asset Management.
    “

    March 11, 2008 at 10:45 AM #167783
    sdnerd
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    For those that hate searching for articles, highlights below. Actually some interesting information.

    ”
    Eighteen percent of workers had loans outstanding from their retirement plans in 2007, up from 11% in 2006, according to a survey by the Transamerica Center for Retirement Studies, a nonprofit corporation funded by Transamerica Life Insurance.

    Major retirement plan providers are reporting a similar trend. The number of participants taking loans from their 401(k) plans rose by 7% at the end of last year from six months earlier, according to a JPMorgan Chase analysis of 350 plans nationwide that cover 1.3 million people. Those results followed a period from January 2005 through June 2007 when loans from these 401(k) plans fell by 15%.
    ”

    …

    ”
    In the Transamerica study, which surveyed more than 2,000 full-time employees at for-profit companies, 49% of those who borrowed from their retirement savings said they had taken the loans to pay off debts, up from 27% in 2006.

    In some instances, workers in fear of home foreclosure may be tapping retirement funds as a last-ditch measure, says Anne Lester, a senior portfolio manager at JPMorgan Asset Management.
    “

    March 11, 2008 at 11:09 AM #167363
    Arty
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    Is it true that S&P 500 P/E is actually around 7 to 8 if you count from 1930…?

    March 11, 2008 at 11:09 AM #167684
    Arty
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    Is it true that S&P 500 P/E is actually around 7 to 8 if you count from 1930…?

    March 11, 2008 at 11:09 AM #167689
    Arty
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    Is it true that S&P 500 P/E is actually around 7 to 8 if you count from 1930…?

    March 11, 2008 at 11:09 AM #167721
    Arty
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    Is it true that S&P 500 P/E is actually around 7 to 8 if you count from 1930…?

    March 11, 2008 at 11:09 AM #167788
    Arty
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    Is it true that S&P 500 P/E is actually around 7 to 8 if you count from 1930…?

    March 11, 2008 at 11:14 AM #167368
    kewp
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    Surprised no one’s commenting on today’s market yet :).

    It’s a fools rally based on the Fed’s last-ditch efforts to avoid a systemic financial collapse. I can’t imagine a more clear sell signal than this.

    Free capital gains means I (and others) would just double-down on our shorts. It would crash the market in no time.

    Now, double the capital gains on shorts/puts and eliminate it for long positions? That might do something.

    March 11, 2008 at 11:14 AM #167691
    kewp
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    Surprised no one’s commenting on today’s market yet :).

    It’s a fools rally based on the Fed’s last-ditch efforts to avoid a systemic financial collapse. I can’t imagine a more clear sell signal than this.

    Free capital gains means I (and others) would just double-down on our shorts. It would crash the market in no time.

    Now, double the capital gains on shorts/puts and eliminate it for long positions? That might do something.

    March 11, 2008 at 11:14 AM #167695
    kewp
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    Surprised no one’s commenting on today’s market yet :).

    It’s a fools rally based on the Fed’s last-ditch efforts to avoid a systemic financial collapse. I can’t imagine a more clear sell signal than this.

    Free capital gains means I (and others) would just double-down on our shorts. It would crash the market in no time.

    Now, double the capital gains on shorts/puts and eliminate it for long positions? That might do something.

    March 11, 2008 at 11:14 AM #167726
    kewp
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    Surprised no one’s commenting on today’s market yet :).

    It’s a fools rally based on the Fed’s last-ditch efforts to avoid a systemic financial collapse. I can’t imagine a more clear sell signal than this.

    Free capital gains means I (and others) would just double-down on our shorts. It would crash the market in no time.

    Now, double the capital gains on shorts/puts and eliminate it for long positions? That might do something.

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