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  • March 11, 2008 at 9:48 AM #167723
    contraman
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    Lazy Union,

    A few days ago I started this post and you responded by stating that people going to the 401K is not happening or will happen in a dramatic fashion.

    If you look at the front page of the US TODAY and the front page of MSN.COM, it appears they think differently.

    Second, someone made a remark about stock market valuations not being too high? I guess when Warren Buffet made a statement last week that stocks are over valued at these levels and he is buying very little, he must have been wrong. I mean look a the guy’s track record….

    Sincerely, Contraman

    March 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM #167322
    patb
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    The Dow was at 8000 in 1998 before Greenspan started the Bubble.

    It was at 8000 after the Tech Bubble.

    It should return to 8000 after the Housing Bubble.

    It may drop below but until then, it’s nothing but knives.

    March 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM #167645
    patb
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    The Dow was at 8000 in 1998 before Greenspan started the Bubble.

    It was at 8000 after the Tech Bubble.

    It should return to 8000 after the Housing Bubble.

    It may drop below but until then, it’s nothing but knives.

    March 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM #167649
    patb
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    The Dow was at 8000 in 1998 before Greenspan started the Bubble.

    It was at 8000 after the Tech Bubble.

    It should return to 8000 after the Housing Bubble.

    It may drop below but until then, it’s nothing but knives.

    March 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM #167680
    patb
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    The Dow was at 8000 in 1998 before Greenspan started the Bubble.

    It was at 8000 after the Tech Bubble.

    It should return to 8000 after the Housing Bubble.

    It may drop below but until then, it’s nothing but knives.

    March 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM #167748
    patb
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    The Dow was at 8000 in 1998 before Greenspan started the Bubble.

    It was at 8000 after the Tech Bubble.

    It should return to 8000 after the Housing Bubble.

    It may drop below but until then, it’s nothing but knives.

    March 11, 2008 at 10:05 AM #167337
    (former)FormerSanDiegan
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    Second, someone made a remark about stock market valuations not being too high? I guess when Warren Buffet made a statement last week that stocks are over valued at these levels and he is buying very little, he must have been wrong. I mean look a the guy’s track record….

    That was me. I am going by Mr. Uber-Housing Bear (Shiller’s) definition of long-term valuation. By Shiller’s measure stocks are not overvalued, relative to fundamentals (earnings). Stocks are not in the same speculative bubble that real estate was in 2005 or that stocks were in 200. Not by a long shot.

    That does not mean that stocks will not decline when earnings decline. When earnings decline, stocks should decline as well, based on fundamentals.

    March 11, 2008 at 10:05 AM #167660
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    Second, someone made a remark about stock market valuations not being too high? I guess when Warren Buffet made a statement last week that stocks are over valued at these levels and he is buying very little, he must have been wrong. I mean look a the guy’s track record….

    That was me. I am going by Mr. Uber-Housing Bear (Shiller’s) definition of long-term valuation. By Shiller’s measure stocks are not overvalued, relative to fundamentals (earnings). Stocks are not in the same speculative bubble that real estate was in 2005 or that stocks were in 200. Not by a long shot.

    That does not mean that stocks will not decline when earnings decline. When earnings decline, stocks should decline as well, based on fundamentals.

    March 11, 2008 at 10:05 AM #167664
    (former)FormerSanDiegan
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    Second, someone made a remark about stock market valuations not being too high? I guess when Warren Buffet made a statement last week that stocks are over valued at these levels and he is buying very little, he must have been wrong. I mean look a the guy’s track record….

    That was me. I am going by Mr. Uber-Housing Bear (Shiller’s) definition of long-term valuation. By Shiller’s measure stocks are not overvalued, relative to fundamentals (earnings). Stocks are not in the same speculative bubble that real estate was in 2005 or that stocks were in 200. Not by a long shot.

    That does not mean that stocks will not decline when earnings decline. When earnings decline, stocks should decline as well, based on fundamentals.

    March 11, 2008 at 10:05 AM #167694
    (former)FormerSanDiegan
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    Second, someone made a remark about stock market valuations not being too high? I guess when Warren Buffet made a statement last week that stocks are over valued at these levels and he is buying very little, he must have been wrong. I mean look a the guy’s track record….

    That was me. I am going by Mr. Uber-Housing Bear (Shiller’s) definition of long-term valuation. By Shiller’s measure stocks are not overvalued, relative to fundamentals (earnings). Stocks are not in the same speculative bubble that real estate was in 2005 or that stocks were in 200. Not by a long shot.

    That does not mean that stocks will not decline when earnings decline. When earnings decline, stocks should decline as well, based on fundamentals.

    March 11, 2008 at 10:05 AM #167763
    (former)FormerSanDiegan
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    Second, someone made a remark about stock market valuations not being too high? I guess when Warren Buffet made a statement last week that stocks are over valued at these levels and he is buying very little, he must have been wrong. I mean look a the guy’s track record….

    That was me. I am going by Mr. Uber-Housing Bear (Shiller’s) definition of long-term valuation. By Shiller’s measure stocks are not overvalued, relative to fundamentals (earnings). Stocks are not in the same speculative bubble that real estate was in 2005 or that stocks were in 200. Not by a long shot.

    That does not mean that stocks will not decline when earnings decline. When earnings decline, stocks should decline as well, based on fundamentals.

    March 11, 2008 at 10:34 AM #167353
    (former)FormerSanDiegan
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    Maybe it’s just me, but I find it odd that someone with a pseudonym containing the term “contra” is citing the USA Today, MSN.com as well as comments from Warren Buffett to support their position.

    As for Warren Buffett. I agree that he is an investment genius. But his batting average is not 1.000.

    March 11, 2008 at 10:34 AM #167675
    (former)FormerSanDiegan
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    Maybe it’s just me, but I find it odd that someone with a pseudonym containing the term “contra” is citing the USA Today, MSN.com as well as comments from Warren Buffett to support their position.

    As for Warren Buffett. I agree that he is an investment genius. But his batting average is not 1.000.

    March 11, 2008 at 10:34 AM #167679
    (former)FormerSanDiegan
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    Maybe it’s just me, but I find it odd that someone with a pseudonym containing the term “contra” is citing the USA Today, MSN.com as well as comments from Warren Buffett to support their position.

    As for Warren Buffett. I agree that he is an investment genius. But his batting average is not 1.000.

    March 11, 2008 at 10:34 AM #167711
    (former)FormerSanDiegan
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    Maybe it’s just me, but I find it odd that someone with a pseudonym containing the term “contra” is citing the USA Today, MSN.com as well as comments from Warren Buffett to support their position.

    As for Warren Buffett. I agree that he is an investment genius. But his batting average is not 1.000.

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