Why do Majority of Jews vote Democratic?

[The-Shoveler]

Is having a 3000 sf McMansion and a TV in every room a sign of wealth? Or just terminal stupidity?

Yes

[The-Shoveler]

You should see Bill Gates place.

[spdrun]

If Europe doesn’t accelerate growth, soon we could have 3 baubles to 2 for them. Then, no matter how much more free time they have, they will feel poorer (possible less happy) in the aggregate.

Stupid people want to keep up with the Joneses. Smart people laugh at the Joneses, then buy their house at the sheriff’s fuck-loser auction after they mortgage it twice over to buy more 60″ teevees and three SUVs.

Maybe I’m an unnatural human, because I really don’t give a flying fuck about having more “stuff” unless said “stuff” actually makes me money.

[FlyerInHi]

Individual choices and balance sheets are not the same as aggregate wealth.

[spdrun]

A nation is just an extended family unit, which in turn is an extension of an individual.

Talk to most Germans or French, and ask them if they’d want to work 50+ hours per week on average if salaried, have no time off guaranteed by law, or tell them that health insurance isn’t guaranteed, and they’d think twice about the US. Remember that there are street protests whenever some politico yakks about introducing reforms that even slightly approach US-style capitalism.

True, the wealthier ones visit the US to shop, but I don’t see hoardes of them clamoring to immigrate here.

The US might offer more of an opportunity to be super wealthy, but that’s an 0.0002% chance vs an 0.0001% chance. For the average working person, having hours limited by law, vacation guarantees, and health insurance covered by the welfare state is a great thing.

And really, how many iPads or TVs can one view at once? How many cars can one drive simultaneously?

[FlyerInHi]

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Talk to most Germans or French, and ask them if they’d want to work 50+ hours per week on average if salaried, have no time off guaranteed by law, or tell them that health insurance isn’t guaranteed, and they’d think twice about the US.
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But did you also tell them they can have a 3000sf house, a mustang, an Excursion and cars for each of their kids? Live in warm climate? Work for a world class company and having access to American consumers?

I watch Euro news and they always have a reporter based in the US. They frequently have reports of their compatriots making in Silicon valley, etc…

They also often have stories of their companies chasing the growing Chinese middle class.

There are lots of drawbacks living in more static Europe if you’re a go-getter.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]

And really, how many iPads or TVs can one view at once? How many cars can one drive simultaneously?[/quote]

That’s where individual choices come in. You can stay out, but you want a dynamic, vibrant commercial society.

My own home is bauble free. It’s very Spartan and simple by choice. I think it’s beautiful but lots of people say I need more things.

But my vacation rentals are kinda bling (Z Gallerie, Restoration Hardware, some shiny, golden, blingy baubles…). People go for it. You have to cater to the aggregate to make them happy.

[spdrun]

The climate of most of France and Germany is actually warmer than many parts of Dumberica.

Ever hear of Siemens, Airbus, Alcatel, or Alstom? Plenty of world-class companies outside of the US.

It’s funny, that even with their individual cars, American kids are less independent than European kids. It’s quite normal for kids in Europe to travel with friends at age 15 or 16 (and walk to school at age 8 without parents). The thought of kids here doing that would give most helicopter parents a coronary.

Personally, I’m not a go-getter. I’m a seeker of comfort and security. My interest in rental property only extends to wanting a steady income without working under the FUCKING MISERABLE hours and vaca time that most Americans have to deal with. (Which would likely have me in jail for doing serious mayhem to my boss one morning. I don’t take authority well.)

[an]

Last 15 years, we have Amazon, Google, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, etc. What does Europe have?

[spdrun]

Well – SCREW what most people think. The average underbred, mouth-breathing American doesn’t bear listening to. If someone didn’t like my apartment and told me so, I’d take them to the door and kick them down the steps. If they were lucky.

I don’t want a vibrant, commercial society. I want a slow leisure society where people have more time to drink, think, and fuck than to work for some asshole who deserves nothing better than a punch in the nose.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]
Ever hear of Siemens, Airbus, Alcatel, or Alstom? Plenty of world-class companies outside of the US.
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Companies that all have large operations in America. They are more like American multinationals.

Last I heard Alstom was being acquired by GE. The French government stepped in to make them retain operations in France.

I think that, overall, America provides more opportunities. I look at Flushing, NY, Little Havana in Miami, etc.. people can thrive and reinvent themselves, make money…

So much more interesting than static Europe.

Yeah, Europe has good things we can adopt, but I like dynamic America.

[quote=spdrun]
Personally, I’m not a go-getter. I’m a seeker of comfort and security. My interest in rental property only extends to wanting a steady income without working under the FUCKING MISERABLE hours [/quote]

In Europe, it would be harder to build a rental portfolio. But maybe you wouldn’t need to because you’d have more security.

Personally, I don’t care for average European homes. Old kitchen and baths with exposed pipes, no laundry rooms, all translate to lower standard of living.

[spdrun]

AN, really? Europe has many companies that actually DESIGN, PRODUCE, and BUILD useful things. I.T. firms aren’t the be-all and end-all of innovation.

If Amazon, Fecesbook, the Twat, LinkedIn, or even Google went nipples-up tomorrow, the world would move on and their services would be replaced quickly. If Siemens or BASF went under, industry and power grids would come to a screeching halt.

It’s amazing how much industrial and power plant equipment Siemens provides and maintains. And BASF is the largest chemical company in the world.

[Coronita]

[quote=AN]Last 15 years, we have Amazon, Google, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, etc. What does Europe have?[/quote]

On a more serious note. My company closed our office in france… Reason cited was, too complicated labor laws.

[spdrun]

The French won’t miss another US company that wants to subject workers there to conditions unfit for a dog.

[spdrun]

In Europe, it would be harder to build a rental portfolio. But maybe you wouldn’t need to because you’d have more security.

Personally, I don’t care for average European homes. Old kitchen and baths with exposed pipes, no laundry rooms, all translate to lower standard of living.

Exactly. I’d much rather have a welfare state that takes care of me cradle to grave than having to build my own. I’m not a go-getter nor particularly creative.

How do exposed pipes actually bother me? As far as a laundry room, I’d rather have a Euro-type kitchen washer-dryer where you put the clothes in and it keeps running till the clothes are clean and dry.

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