We will not forget

[SD Realtor]

FLU I didn’t see your post when I posted mine. Thank you for bringing it on the board.

Unfortunately it is hard to remember the loss without things turning into a political debate and that is understandable.

All that can be asked are a few things. First that nobody ever forgets. Second, that like it or not, there are people who do indeed want to see the destruction of the United States and of Isreal.

While this is by no means an indemnification of US behavior in the past, it is simply a fact.

[robson]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski
Egos have changed the world as much as the ideas those egos defend.

[robson]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski
Egos have changed the world as much as the ideas those egos defend.

[robson]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski
Egos have changed the world as much as the ideas those egos defend.

[robson]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski
Egos have changed the world as much as the ideas those egos defend.

[robson]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski
Egos have changed the world as much as the ideas those egos defend.

[stockstradr]

Yes, robson links in the right answer.

And isn’t it interesting that even Wikipedia itself propagates the propaganda, implying America started to covertly fund the Afghani mujaheddin only AFTER the Soviet Union moved troops into Afghanistan!

“..the arming of the mujaheddin in Afghanistan[2] to fight against the Soviet-friendly Afghan government”

Even Brzezinski himself has revealed in published interviews the previously well-kept secret that our tax dollars had sent massive arms and covert CIA operations into Afghanistan BEFORE any Soviet involvement, because it was in part a TRAP for the Soviets to walk into.

[stockstradr]

Yes, robson links in the right answer.

And isn’t it interesting that even Wikipedia itself propagates the propaganda, implying America started to covertly fund the Afghani mujaheddin only AFTER the Soviet Union moved troops into Afghanistan!

“..the arming of the mujaheddin in Afghanistan[2] to fight against the Soviet-friendly Afghan government”

Even Brzezinski himself has revealed in published interviews the previously well-kept secret that our tax dollars had sent massive arms and covert CIA operations into Afghanistan BEFORE any Soviet involvement, because it was in part a TRAP for the Soviets to walk into.

[stockstradr]

Yes, robson links in the right answer.

And isn’t it interesting that even Wikipedia itself propagates the propaganda, implying America started to covertly fund the Afghani mujaheddin only AFTER the Soviet Union moved troops into Afghanistan!

“..the arming of the mujaheddin in Afghanistan[2] to fight against the Soviet-friendly Afghan government”

Even Brzezinski himself has revealed in published interviews the previously well-kept secret that our tax dollars had sent massive arms and covert CIA operations into Afghanistan BEFORE any Soviet involvement, because it was in part a TRAP for the Soviets to walk into.

[stockstradr]

Yes, robson links in the right answer.

And isn’t it interesting that even Wikipedia itself propagates the propaganda, implying America started to covertly fund the Afghani mujaheddin only AFTER the Soviet Union moved troops into Afghanistan!

“..the arming of the mujaheddin in Afghanistan[2] to fight against the Soviet-friendly Afghan government”

Even Brzezinski himself has revealed in published interviews the previously well-kept secret that our tax dollars had sent massive arms and covert CIA operations into Afghanistan BEFORE any Soviet involvement, because it was in part a TRAP for the Soviets to walk into.

[stockstradr]

Yes, robson links in the right answer.

And isn’t it interesting that even Wikipedia itself propagates the propaganda, implying America started to covertly fund the Afghani mujaheddin only AFTER the Soviet Union moved troops into Afghanistan!

“..the arming of the mujaheddin in Afghanistan[2] to fight against the Soviet-friendly Afghan government”

Even Brzezinski himself has revealed in published interviews the previously well-kept secret that our tax dollars had sent massive arms and covert CIA operations into Afghanistan BEFORE any Soviet involvement, because it was in part a TRAP for the Soviets to walk into.

[stockstradr]

I will compliment “patientlywaiting” for having written one of the FEW intelligent posts in this thread.

Ask one hundred random Americans on the street these questions. I bet you not ONE IN ONE HUNDRED can even answer ONE of these questions correctly.

Although NOTHING will ever justify the crimes Osama Bin Laden committed, can you think of what might have made Obama so angry he wants to kill Americans? Where did Osama (and many of those who later became the core of Al-Qaeda) originally receive their training to be terrorists? Who paid for their training, their guns, ammunition, Stinger missiles…etc? What war, financed by the USA, honed their terrorist skills as they fought on the side financed by the USA? What was America’s goal in that war? Did America achieve that goal? How many millions died fighting that war fought on their soil (reducing their country to RUBBLE) so America could win it’s sought after victory? Now for the most important question: in their eyes, how did America betray the trust they put in America and insult the sacrifices they made for America?

Here is another gem of a question for ANYONE on this forum who claims any insight into the historical series of events that ultimately led to 9/11:

QUESTION: Who wrote this and how is it connected historically to the 9/11 attacks?

“We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war.”

NOTE: don’t take this post the wrong way. Obama bin laden is a murderer who must be brought to justice. 9/11 was a horrific event involving the terrible loss of countless innocents. However, the vast majority of Americans don’t seem to have (or want) any insight into how actions by the United States inadvertently fostered the growth of Al-Qaeda, and created the hatred and desire for horrific action against the USA. Most Americans simply view 9/11 as an insane act by insane people, a view held by Americans so they can avoid knowing their own ugly truth, and dark relationship to world events.

I have looked for but have only seen ONE significant American media outlet broadcast news reports (and documentaries) that objectively asked & answered the above questions, namely PBS (Ex.: FRONTLINE). The Bush administration responded by crippling PBS (by installing a Republican chairman of PBS, to censor their news operations).

QUESTION: What is America doing NOW in Afghanistan?

ANSWER: repeating dark history that we’ve forgotten (or never learned), and so are doomed to repeat.

That is we have AGAIN reduced Afghanistan to rubble, killing vast numbers of Afghanis and raising the anger of those remaining to a killing fever, pissing off the worlds best guerrilla fighters (skills honed fighting successive invasions of their land)…and then for icing on the cake, we AGAIN turn our backs on their devastated land, withdraw most of our troops and give them NOTHING with which to rebuild their country, leaving it to FESTER into…. the new, bigger, badder Al-Qaeda.

Oh, yeah, I forgot.

You don’t want posts that “pollute this thread” with “discussions of politics,” because you are so focused on lamenting 9/11 that you want to remain ignorant of the very historical events that led America to experience that dreadful event.

[stockstradr]

I will compliment “patientlywaiting” for having written one of the FEW intelligent posts in this thread.

Ask one hundred random Americans on the street these questions. I bet you not ONE IN ONE HUNDRED can even answer ONE of these questions correctly.

Although NOTHING will ever justify the crimes Osama Bin Laden committed, can you think of what might have made Obama so angry he wants to kill Americans? Where did Osama (and many of those who later became the core of Al-Qaeda) originally receive their training to be terrorists? Who paid for their training, their guns, ammunition, Stinger missiles…etc? What war, financed by the USA, honed their terrorist skills as they fought on the side financed by the USA? What was America’s goal in that war? Did America achieve that goal? How many millions died fighting that war fought on their soil (reducing their country to RUBBLE) so America could win it’s sought after victory? Now for the most important question: in their eyes, how did America betray the trust they put in America and insult the sacrifices they made for America?

Here is another gem of a question for ANYONE on this forum who claims any insight into the historical series of events that ultimately led to 9/11:

QUESTION: Who wrote this and how is it connected historically to the 9/11 attacks?

“We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war.”

NOTE: don’t take this post the wrong way. Obama bin laden is a murderer who must be brought to justice. 9/11 was a horrific event involving the terrible loss of countless innocents. However, the vast majority of Americans don’t seem to have (or want) any insight into how actions by the United States inadvertently fostered the growth of Al-Qaeda, and created the hatred and desire for horrific action against the USA. Most Americans simply view 9/11 as an insane act by insane people, a view held by Americans so they can avoid knowing their own ugly truth, and dark relationship to world events.

I have looked for but have only seen ONE significant American media outlet broadcast news reports (and documentaries) that objectively asked & answered the above questions, namely PBS (Ex.: FRONTLINE). The Bush administration responded by crippling PBS (by installing a Republican chairman of PBS, to censor their news operations).

QUESTION: What is America doing NOW in Afghanistan?

ANSWER: repeating dark history that we’ve forgotten (or never learned), and so are doomed to repeat.

That is we have AGAIN reduced Afghanistan to rubble, killing vast numbers of Afghanis and raising the anger of those remaining to a killing fever, pissing off the worlds best guerrilla fighters (skills honed fighting successive invasions of their land)…and then for icing on the cake, we AGAIN turn our backs on their devastated land, withdraw most of our troops and give them NOTHING with which to rebuild their country, leaving it to FESTER into…. the new, bigger, badder Al-Qaeda.

Oh, yeah, I forgot.

You don’t want posts that “pollute this thread” with “discussions of politics,” because you are so focused on lamenting 9/11 that you want to remain ignorant of the very historical events that led America to experience that dreadful event.

[stockstradr]

I will compliment “patientlywaiting” for having written one of the FEW intelligent posts in this thread.

Ask one hundred random Americans on the street these questions. I bet you not ONE IN ONE HUNDRED can even answer ONE of these questions correctly.

Although NOTHING will ever justify the crimes Osama Bin Laden committed, can you think of what might have made Obama so angry he wants to kill Americans? Where did Osama (and many of those who later became the core of Al-Qaeda) originally receive their training to be terrorists? Who paid for their training, their guns, ammunition, Stinger missiles…etc? What war, financed by the USA, honed their terrorist skills as they fought on the side financed by the USA? What was America’s goal in that war? Did America achieve that goal? How many millions died fighting that war fought on their soil (reducing their country to RUBBLE) so America could win it’s sought after victory? Now for the most important question: in their eyes, how did America betray the trust they put in America and insult the sacrifices they made for America?

Here is another gem of a question for ANYONE on this forum who claims any insight into the historical series of events that ultimately led to 9/11:

QUESTION: Who wrote this and how is it connected historically to the 9/11 attacks?

“We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war.”

NOTE: don’t take this post the wrong way. Obama bin laden is a murderer who must be brought to justice. 9/11 was a horrific event involving the terrible loss of countless innocents. However, the vast majority of Americans don’t seem to have (or want) any insight into how actions by the United States inadvertently fostered the growth of Al-Qaeda, and created the hatred and desire for horrific action against the USA. Most Americans simply view 9/11 as an insane act by insane people, a view held by Americans so they can avoid knowing their own ugly truth, and dark relationship to world events.

I have looked for but have only seen ONE significant American media outlet broadcast news reports (and documentaries) that objectively asked & answered the above questions, namely PBS (Ex.: FRONTLINE). The Bush administration responded by crippling PBS (by installing a Republican chairman of PBS, to censor their news operations).

QUESTION: What is America doing NOW in Afghanistan?

ANSWER: repeating dark history that we’ve forgotten (or never learned), and so are doomed to repeat.

That is we have AGAIN reduced Afghanistan to rubble, killing vast numbers of Afghanis and raising the anger of those remaining to a killing fever, pissing off the worlds best guerrilla fighters (skills honed fighting successive invasions of their land)…and then for icing on the cake, we AGAIN turn our backs on their devastated land, withdraw most of our troops and give them NOTHING with which to rebuild their country, leaving it to FESTER into…. the new, bigger, badder Al-Qaeda.

Oh, yeah, I forgot.

You don’t want posts that “pollute this thread” with “discussions of politics,” because you are so focused on lamenting 9/11 that you want to remain ignorant of the very historical events that led America to experience that dreadful event.

[stockstradr]

I will compliment “patientlywaiting” for having written one of the FEW intelligent posts in this thread.

Ask one hundred random Americans on the street these questions. I bet you not ONE IN ONE HUNDRED can even answer ONE of these questions correctly.

Although NOTHING will ever justify the crimes Osama Bin Laden committed, can you think of what might have made Obama so angry he wants to kill Americans? Where did Osama (and many of those who later became the core of Al-Qaeda) originally receive their training to be terrorists? Who paid for their training, their guns, ammunition, Stinger missiles…etc? What war, financed by the USA, honed their terrorist skills as they fought on the side financed by the USA? What was America’s goal in that war? Did America achieve that goal? How many millions died fighting that war fought on their soil (reducing their country to RUBBLE) so America could win it’s sought after victory? Now for the most important question: in their eyes, how did America betray the trust they put in America and insult the sacrifices they made for America?

Here is another gem of a question for ANYONE on this forum who claims any insight into the historical series of events that ultimately led to 9/11:

QUESTION: Who wrote this and how is it connected historically to the 9/11 attacks?

“We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war.”

NOTE: don’t take this post the wrong way. Obama bin laden is a murderer who must be brought to justice. 9/11 was a horrific event involving the terrible loss of countless innocents. However, the vast majority of Americans don’t seem to have (or want) any insight into how actions by the United States inadvertently fostered the growth of Al-Qaeda, and created the hatred and desire for horrific action against the USA. Most Americans simply view 9/11 as an insane act by insane people, a view held by Americans so they can avoid knowing their own ugly truth, and dark relationship to world events.

I have looked for but have only seen ONE significant American media outlet broadcast news reports (and documentaries) that objectively asked & answered the above questions, namely PBS (Ex.: FRONTLINE). The Bush administration responded by crippling PBS (by installing a Republican chairman of PBS, to censor their news operations).

QUESTION: What is America doing NOW in Afghanistan?

ANSWER: repeating dark history that we’ve forgotten (or never learned), and so are doomed to repeat.

That is we have AGAIN reduced Afghanistan to rubble, killing vast numbers of Afghanis and raising the anger of those remaining to a killing fever, pissing off the worlds best guerrilla fighters (skills honed fighting successive invasions of their land)…and then for icing on the cake, we AGAIN turn our backs on their devastated land, withdraw most of our troops and give them NOTHING with which to rebuild their country, leaving it to FESTER into…. the new, bigger, badder Al-Qaeda.

Oh, yeah, I forgot.

You don’t want posts that “pollute this thread” with “discussions of politics,” because you are so focused on lamenting 9/11 that you want to remain ignorant of the very historical events that led America to experience that dreadful event.

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